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Its indeed they will re-organize but there after losing a huge strength with less or no capable of any kind of offensive..

In 1971 War in Bangladesh same tactics were applied but different objectives, the result was total victory and huge amount of surrender..
 

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Its indeed they will re-organize but there after losing a huge strength with less or no capable of any kind of offensive..

In 1971 War in Bangladesh same tactics were applied but different objectives, the result was total victory and huge amount of surrender..

The biggest differences are that in 1971 Pakistan did not yet have nukes and they were not as suicidal as they are now...
 

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There i said, "if you put a nuke and say stop it dont work that way.. " Unless the objectives are archived..

The biggest differences are that in 1971 Pakistan did not yet have nukes and they were not as suicidal as they are now...
 

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The biggest differences are that in 1971 Pakistan did not yet have nukes and they were not as suicidal as they are now...
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*Was thousand miles far from west pakistan
*were already in civil war
*surrounded by india from all sides and surrrounded by bangladesh's as well
*nthing could be supplied

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in the next possible war.there wont be anything as such
 

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Leaving nukes aside

We have thousands of troops on the border with all the latest equipments

than more than 100 bvr active fighters.and the billions worth arms we have

how will india breach the LOC?
 

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And
*Was thousand miles far from west pakistan
*were already in civil war
*surrounded by india from all sides and surrrounded by bangladesh's as well
*nthing could be supplied

and many more

in the next possible war.there wont be anything as such
In the next war, there will be no East Pakistan.
 

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stupid assumptions that we will not attack, once war start, you cant decided what the other party will do. Pakistan got its assumptions wrong in 1961 and in 1999.
 

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Leaving nukes aside

We have thousands of troops on the border with all the latest equipments

than more than 100 bvr active fighters.and the billions worth arms we have

how will india breach the LOC?

If you don't use nukes against India then you'll surely be toast. Pakistan cannot match India in conventional forces. And in a protracted all-out conventional war Pakistan's resources cannot sustain itself.
 

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If you don't use nukes against India then you'll surely be toast. Pakistan cannot match India in conventional forces. And in a protracted all-out conventional war Pakistan's resources cannot sustain itself.
can defend pakistan very well

india don't have anything magical.
 

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question is how will india go deep inside pak?

penetrating close to millions soldiers and thousand of tanks and supported hardware?

it isnt that easy
 

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If you don't use nukes against India then you'll surely be toast. Pakistan cannot match India in conventional forces. And in a protracted all-out conventional war Pakistan's resources cannot sustain itself.
Pretty much. India can concentrate more than one and a half times the combat power of the entire Pakistani Army within one month of general mobilization, while still retaining enough of a ready reserve to handle itself. An all-out war would probably see bloody battles with one or two Indian corps left over pushing through Punjab--then Pakistan tosses nukes and the whole subcontinent goes down in flames.

CSD, though, stands a much worse chance of breaching the LOC, you're right. Still, the conventional balance favors India.
 

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Nukes are not that decisive as one imagined..

What also most neglected in this thread that India is working on BMD development and very close in completion of its BMD network consist of Long, Medium and Short range systems..

Besides we already have Russian tactical BMD, Which is often called as Offensive arm..

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Excuses makes one more stupid than what he already is ..
 

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Leaving nukes aside

We have thousands of troops on the border with all the latest equipments

than more than 100 bvr active fighters.and the billions worth arms we have

how will india breach the LOC?
only 18 F-16 can fire long range BVR, rest are all short range BVRs. You guys have no idea, we dont have such huge army for only defence, IBG are for offence.
 

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1000s troops and tanks exposed to sort of Air-strike, Balletic / Supersonic Cruise missiles etc ..

Latest gadgets, pffff...........
 

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Nukes are not that decisive as one imagined..

What also most neglected in this thread that India is working on BMD development and very close in completion of its BMD network consist of Long, Medium and Short range systems..

Besides we already have Russian tactical BMD, Which is often called as Offensive arm..

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Excuses makes one more stupid than what he already is ..

You can sleep at the thought of existing Russian pimped up anti-aircraft batteries trying to shoot down nuclear tipped Pakistani missiles?
 

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And
*Was thousand miles far from west pakistan
*were already in civil war
*surrounded by india from all sides and surrrounded by bangladesh's as well
*nthing could be supplied

and many more

in the next possible war.there wont be anything as such
It will be advantageous for India too... India will not have to think in two fronts... plus it will give India the strategic depth which Pakistan will not have..
 

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It will be advantageous for India too... India will not have to think in two fronts... plus it will give India the strategic depth which Pakistan will not have..
Weren't you the one who kept going on and on about how China would backstab India if it attacked Pakistan?
 

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Weren't you the one who kept going on and on about how China would backstab India if it attacked Pakistan?
You have misunderstood my posts... In my last post I meant there will be no Pakistan in the eastern front... so advantage for India.

I never said or believe China will intervene in a likely scenario of India - Pakistan war... China did back stab India in the context of 1962 and continues to side with Pakistan clandestinely in nuclear & missile proliferation... India have to be vigilant of China's intentions and prepare accordingly..
 

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