Pentagon planning to send US military aircraft, Navy ships near China

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China's Plan To Claim More Land

 

[nimo_cn]

As a developed country, i think china should help its neighbours to sustain there problems instead of making them fear and doubtful. Remember, neighbours can't be changed. China as a developed nation, should have to show she is a civilized country, should promote harmonious relations with whole world especially neighbours.

China is a third world country and are under no obligation to solve others problems.

China's ongoing reclamation work in SCS is as justified as reclamation work done by Vietnam and Philippines years ago.

Chinese are in fact late for the game they started, they should not fear a new player like China. If they do, never start the game in the first place.

military intimidation by America wont work this time, China will finish the reclamation work as America allowed Vietnam and Philippines to do so.

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[Rowdy]

China is a third world country and are under no obligation to solve others problems.

China's ongoing reclamation work in SCS is as justified as reclamation work done by Vietnam and Philippines years ago.

Chinese are in fact late for the game they started, they should not fear a new player like China. If they do, never start the game in the first place.

military intimidation by America wont work this time, China will finish the reclamation work as America allowed Vietnam and Philippines to do so.

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Although I don't like they way china is "imposing" on every other country, I respect china for carrying/maintaining the true Asian (or Dharmic) ethos. Unaffected by the stupid western ideologies china keeps marching on. A truly challenging neighbor.

 

[amoy]

China shall match America's grip of key chokepoints for navigation freedom and energy security, though limited to China Seas only.

Diego Garcia

Meiji Reef (Mischief ) of the Spratlys

Yongshu Reef sunder construction - the centre of Chinese administered Spratlys.

Both Diego Garcia and the Spratlys are situated on vital sealanes.

 

[Oblaks]

China's ongoing reclamation work in SCS is as justified as reclamation work done by Vietnam and Philippines years ago.

Chinese are in fact late for the game they started, they should not fear a new player like China. If they do, never start the game in the first place.

The difference between the constructions done by other countries before and chinese constuction now is that there is already an agreement in place now. The SCS DOC that China agreed with ASEAN. This only proves that China is being run by swindlers and can never be trusted

 

[Oblaks]

China shall match America's grip of key chokepoints for navigation freedom and energy security, though limited to China Seas only.

Diego Garcia

Meiji Reef (Mischief ) of the Spratlys


Yongshu Reef sunder construction - the centre of Chinese administered Spratlys.



Both Diego Garcia and the Spratlys are situated on vital sealanes.

In your wet dreams.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/...mole-in-south-china-sea-says-ex-u-s-official/

Nonetheless, Adm. Blair said there is little China’s forces could do in the Spratlys to deter what the U.S. sees as free navigation in international waters.

“The Spratlys are 900 miles away from China, for God’s sake. Those things have no ability to defend themselves in any sort of military sense,” said Adm. Blair, who today serves as a director at the National Bureau of Asian Research.

He is also chairman of the Sasakawa Peace Foundation USA, an independent non-profit institution that seeks to enhance understanding of U.S.-Japan relations.

“If the Chinese were ever so foolish as to try to take any sort of actual military action from those islands, they’re completely indefensible militarily. Heck, the Philippines and the Vietnamese could put them out of action, much less us,” he said.

 

[Bheeshma]

USN pivot to asia is well known fact. There is nothing anyone can do about it.

 

[no smoking]

The difference between the constructions done by other countries before and chinese constuction now is that there is already an agreement in place now. The SCS DOC that China agreed with ASEAN. This only proves that China is being run by swindlers and can never be trusted

No, SCS DOC doesn't prohibit countries building the island they already occupied.

 

[Oblaks]

No, SCS DOC doesn't prohibit countries building the island they already occupied.

excerpt from the DOC

The Parties undertake to exercise self-restraint in the conduct of activities that would complicate or escalate disputes and affect peace and stability including, among others, refraining from action of inhabiting on the presently uninhabited islands, reefs, shoals, cays, and other features and to handle their differences in a constructive manner..

Although it is not explicitly stated (construction on already occupied features), China's scale of construction is certainly an act of escalating tensions and creates instability. Please don't play dumb

 

[amoy]

In your wet dreams.

http://blogs.wsj.com/chinarealtime/...mole-in-south-china-sea-says-ex-u-s-official/
Nonetheless, Adm. Blair said there is little China’s forces could do in the Spratlys to deter what the U.S. sees as free navigation in international waters.

“The Spratlys are 900 miles away from China, for God’s sake. Those things have no ability to defend themselves in any sort of military sense,” said Adm. Blair, who today serves as a director at the National Bureau of Asian Research.

He is also chairman of the Sasakawa Peace Foundation USA, an independent non-profit institution that seeks to enhance understanding of U.S.-Japan relations.

“If the Chinese were ever so foolish as to try to take any sort of actual military action from those islands, they’re completely indefensible militarily. Heck, the Philippines and the Vietnamese could put them out of action, much less us,” he said.

Then u're very wrong. The buildup on Spratlys is not meant to deter free navigation.

Instead it's going to protect the freedom. An analog for your understanding - did US military base on Diego Gracia of the Indian Ocean obstruct the freedom ? Of course not! It serves as an anchor for peace though militarily indefensible too ( within Iranian striking distance).

Also the illusion of America coming to strike the Spratly for Philippines or Vietnam is very very harmful. That would only embolden their adventures.

 

[Illusive]

Chinese are planning tourist islands too i.e a human shield.

Like i said before too little too late USA.

Its time to use greenpeace activists to protest on site and cover it on media if China does anything stupid.

 

[nimo_cn]

The difference between the constructions done by other countries before and chinese constuction now is that there is already an agreement in place now. The SCS DOC that China agreed with ASEAN. This only proves that China is being run by swindlers and can never be trusted

the declaration was signed in 2002 before Chinese construction started, that is true. but constructions by Philippines and Vietnam never stopped after the signature of the joint declaration. on the contrary, the illegal constructions by Philippines and Vietnam became rampant in early 2000 because China was only one abiding by the declaration.

during that period, both Philippines and Vietnam finished the militarization of the islands they stealed from China, conducted massive oil exploration in disputed waters. moreover, both countries harassed and killed fishmen from PRC and ROC operating in south China Sea. In 2012, Philippines naval ship threatened Chinese fishing boats with guns near huangyan island before China coast guard came to rescue. does any of these not violate the SCS DOC?

the huangyan island incident woke up the Chinese policy makers, they finally realized that China's self-restraint didnt get peace in SCS, the more China concedes, the more they push. China has since changed its passive policy and planed buildup to cement its control over south China Sea, hence massive land reclamation since last year.

it's true that what China is doing violates the SCS DOC, but it is also true that the SCS DOC became meaningless when Vietnam and Philippines decided to discarded the signed document and started a dangerous game in the first place. now it's not upto you when the game stops.

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[amoy]

Chinese are planning tourist islands too i.e a human shield.

Like i said before too little too late USA.

Its time to use greenpeace activists to protest on site and cover it on media if China does anything stupid.

only those who live in Lala land would expect USA to do this or that for them free of charge. yes America is the sole Supapowa, but never a bodyguard at Filipinos command.

it's Viet and Filipina who initiated the reclamation race long long ago. now they're crying foul over the dragon? then they shouldnt have started all this.

what do claimants like Pilipina or Viet have for a faustian bargain with America? there's a price tag to any service on offer. so ask not what America can do for u, ask what u can do for America

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~

 

[Illusive]

so ask not what America can do for u, ask what u can do for America

(Dramatic music in background) "They only ask America to provide weapons, for they want to slay the dragon whose lust for gold has corrupted its mind and only slaying it would bring democracy and peace to the Lala lands and seas so that they could live happily ever after. "

 

[Oblaks]

Then u're very wrong. The buildup on Spratlys is not meant to deter free navigation.

Instead it's going to protect the freedom. An analog for your understanding - did US military base on Diego Gracia of the Indian Ocean obstruct the freedom ? Of course not! It serves as an anchor for peace though militarily indefensible too ( within Iranian striking distance).

Also the illusion of America coming to strike the Spratly for Philippines or Vietnam is very very harmful. That would only embolden their adventures.

Oh please nuff with the drama. You Chinese trolls keep parroting Chinese state media lies. Diego Garcia was there to fortify US defense on the high seas. The Chinese reclamations in the SCS are there to claim the high seas. Therefore these reclamations are naturally malicious from the beggining. These are all part of the long planned chinese creeping invasion.

Everyone knows that these activities are being done in a hurry to counter the what is expected to be a decision of the UN tribunal which is unfavorable to China with respect to the arbitration case filed by the Philippines. What China was not expecting is that the Us would react the way they are doing now. This does not have anything to do anymore with allies in South East Asia so do not pretend that you can predict what the next US response will be Chinaman!

 

[Oblaks]

the declaration was signed in 2002 before Chinese construction started, that is true. but constructions by Philippines and Vietnam never stopped after the signature of the joint declaration. on the contrary, the illegal constructions by Philippines and Vietnam became rampant in early 2000 because China was only one abiding by the declaration.

during that period, both Philippines and Vietnam finished the militarization of the islands they stealed from China, conducted massive oil exploration in disputed waters. moreover, both countries harassed and killed fishmen from PRC and ROC operating in south China Sea. In 2012, Philippines naval ship threatened Chinese fishing boats with guns near huangyan island before China coast guard came to rescue. does any of these not violate the SCS DOC?

the huangyan island incident woke up the Chinese policy makers, they finally realized that China's self-restraint didnt get peace in SCS, the more China concedes, the more they push. China has since changed its passive policy and planed buildup to cement its control over south China Sea, hence massive land reclamation since last year.

it's true that what China is doing violates the SCS DOC, but it is also true that the SCS DOC became meaningless when Vietnam and Philippines decided to discarded the signed document and started a dangerous game in the first place. now it's not upto you when the game stops.

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There is no point in reasoning with you, Chinaman or Chinawoman, whatever creature you are since your brain is too corrupted by state media. The game never stops for you because the CCP will constantly brainwash you so they will have a strong endless hold of power in china. If i were you, instead of believing the ccp that China and the Chinese people are ones being oppressed here, better be one of those who tell the ccp to hold their horses because we never know that they may be putting you chinese people and the rest of the world in the brink of war.

 

[Oblaks]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/4/us-india-join-forces-to-counter-beijing-aggression/

The defense framework signed with India this week during Defense Secretary Ashton Carter’s trip to the Pacific is the most recent step in U.S. efforts to put together a coalition to counter China’s growing influence, including its aggression in the South China Sea.

Mr. Carter and Indian Defense Minister Manohar Parrikar signed a 10-year agreement Wednesday in New Delhi to promote cooperation. Under the agreement, the U.S. and India will develop a mobile solar energy power source as well as a lightweight suit to protect against chemical and biological weapons and will build jet engines and an aircraft carrier for India.

The Pentagon said in an official statement that Mr. Carter’s trip to India was part of a broader “U.S. rebalance to the Asia-Pacific region.”

Mr. Carter suggested that an increased U.S. role, along with the rising economic prowess of India, Vietnam, Singapore and other allies in the region, would help counter Chinese aggression.

“These two things come together when it comes to maritime security, maritime domain awareness,” Mr. Carter said.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Malaysia Toughens Stance With Beijing Over South China Sea

http://www.wsj.com/articles/malaysia-toughens-stance-with-beijing-over-south-china-sea-1433764608

 

[Oblaks]

While Beijing keeps on being the loud mouth and making threats here and there, the US quietly isolates china and the rest of the world are willing parties. Goodluck CCP.

 

[amoy]

Oh please nuff with the drama. You Chinese trolls keep parroting Chinese state media lies. Diego Garcia was there to fortify US defense on the high seas. The Chinese reclamations in the SCS are there to claim the high seas. Therefore these reclamations are naturally malicious from the beggining. These are all part of the long planned chinese creeping invasion.

Everyone knows that these activities are being done in a hurry to counter the what is expected to be a decision of the UN tribunal which is unfavorable to China with respect to the arbitration case filed by the Philippines. What China was not expecting is that the Us would react the way they are doing now. This does not have anything to do anymore with allies in South East Asia so do not pretend that you can predict what the next US response will be Chinaman!

It's u who's been corrupted by war-mongering propaganda. US will fight your war?！ Only in your pipedream.

UN tribunal? the tribunal has no jurisdiction to decide the case.The issue of territorial sovereignty falls beyond the purview of the UNCLOS Convention. U have no case there.

Why didn't u tell Vietnam to hold their horses? Here's how Vietnamese captured Filipina-controlled island of Pugad (Southwest Cay) of the Spratlys by surprise.

The "invasion" (occupation of the island) took place when all of the Philippine soldiers guarding the island of Pugad (Southwest Cay) left to attend to the birthday party of their commanding officer, who was based on the neighbouring Parola Island (Northeast Cay). The storm that day is also believed to have persuaded all of the soldiers to regroup temporarily on Parola island. A report[by whom?] also came out saying that South Vietnamese officials managed to send Vietnamese prostitutes to the birthday party to lure the Filipino soldiers guarding Pugad Island. The "gift" was said to be a "present" to the Philippine commander for his birthday, and as a move by South Vietnamese forces to befriend all Filipino soldiers guarding the Spratlys. Philippine soldiers did not expect that South Vietnam would resort to foul play since both the Philippines and South Vietnam, together with the United States, were allies in the Vietnam War. This tactic is believed[by whom?] to be the reason why South Vietnamese forces knew that the Filipino soldiers had left the island, an action that would usually be kept confidential.[citation needed]

After the party, and when the weather cleared, the returning soldiers were surprised to find that there was a company of South Vietnamese soldiers on the island. The South Vietnamese flag had replaced the Philippine flag flying on the pole erected by the Philippine soldiers. They returned to Parola immediately for fear that Parola would be the next target. After higher-ups of the Philippines were informed about the situation, they instructed the troops based in Parola and Pagasa to stay on red alert status. The following morning, the only thing the Filipino soldiers could do on Parola was to "curse" while the South Vietnamese soldiers sang their national anthem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines_and_the_Spratly_Islands

Now u may gang up on China. But that marriage of convenience won't last.