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Intellectual dishonesty in misrepresenting Shia massacres in Pakistan


In the last 36 hours, 8 people were killed in a bomb blast in Karachi including a single mother and her child, 5 Pashtuns were killed in a bomb blast in a CD market in Peshawar, and just hours ago, 30 Shia Muslims (most of them Hazara Shias) were executed in Mastung, Balochistan. In all the three cases, it were the Taliban and their local partners, the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ, also known as Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, SSP) that proudly took credit for these horrific deeds.

More than the grief of this continual bloodshed by these monsters is the intellectual dishonesty of misrepresenting these incidents and shifting and diverting the focus away from those responsible. In the case of the Shias, social networks are already evidence of the typical obfuscatory rubbish that is used to casually describe away these mass murders; the real outrage for Pakistan's "civil society" is reserved for Americans like Aafia!

The outrage of our urban elites is limited to the drone attacks that kill Baitullah Mehsud and Al Qaeda's multinational mercenaries and, tragically, Pashtun civilian hostages who are used as human shields by the Taliban and Al Qaeda. It rarely extends to the daily persecution, massacres and oppression of Pakistan's Shia Muslims in this specific case.

The same Lashkar-e-Jhangvi that has killed 30 Shia Muslims today are also the ones who are also killing Ahmadi muslims and Barelvi Muslims as well as those Deobandi Muslims who oppose the misuse of their beliefs to bolster the Jihad Enterprise of Pakistan's military establishment. Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is part of the Jihad factory of the ISI that has also developed similar units like Sipah-e-Sahaba, Jaish-e-Muhammad (JeM) and the main militant outfit with its network of commanders, the Taliban. Allied with the Al Qaeda, they all share the same bigoted, misogynist and supremacist views and are an essential part of the foreign and domestic policy of the Deep State (i.e., Pakistan army) for the attainment of "Strategic Depth" in Afghanistan.

Journalists and commentators are already dismissing this incident as "sectarian violence". Whether they are being ignorant, indifferently or wilfully obtuse is left to the observer. The media has played a horrible role in misinforming the public and increasing bigotry has done the rest. Today, few if any are pointing out the obvious contradictions when such massacres are falsely being described as "routine sectarian violence" between Sunnis and Shias.

Case in point. Prominet Barelvi Sunni Muslim scholar, Maulana Sarfaraz Naeemi was killed in a suicide blast in Lahore after he publically opposed the Taliban and thier tactics of suicide bombing. Maulana Hasan Jan, a Deobandi Sunni Muslim was killed for, you guessed it, opposing the Taliban. Dr. Muhammad Farooq (a friend of Allama Javed Ghamidi) was killed in Swat by the same beasts. These are not isolated cases and are part of the scores of attacks that have killed Sunnis at Sufi shrines since the attacks on Bari Imam (2005) and Jhal Magsi (2005), where scores of Sunni devotees were killed along with Shias by the Sipah-e-Sahaba. This same nexus of Jihadi groups and Taliban has also killed, persecuted and oppressed the Ahmadi Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs and Christains of Pakistan.

However, terming it as "sectarian violence" is a dishonest tactic of shifting the blame away from the real culprits:

Those who created these militias (army-ISI) , those who protect them (the Supreme Court) and those politicians, like Imran Khan and Munawar Hasan, who continue to apologize for them with blatant lies to shift the focus away the Jihad Enterprise.

Imran Khan mantains with a straight face that there was no extremism in Pakistan and no suicide attacks either before 9/11 and none of the pliant interviewers (including Elliot Spitzer of CNN) bothers to contradict this with the facts that such attacks took place as early as 1995; a full 6 years before 9/11! Imran Khan is symbolic of the moral decripitude and mendacity of educated Pakistanis whose ignorance, bigotry and identity crisis has made them accept the most outlandish rubbish that protects the dark ambitions of Pakistan's military establishment. For these soulless elites, the massacres of Shia Muslims can be explained away with half-truths and outright lies.

The inculcation of Jihadi laboratories in Southern Punjab by the military dictator General Zia ul Haq to create the Sipah-e-Sahaba/Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (they are the same) is dishonestly explained away as a anti-feudal uprising against Shia landlords in that area. Well today, the landlords of Jhang are still alive but not the thousands of Shia Muslims who have been killed by the "anti-feudal" Sipah-e-Sahaba all over Pakistan (who have also spared the feudals from other sects). The category of those Shias killed by the Sipah includes Pakistanis from all ethnic groups and professions except feudals while the Sipah-e-Sahaba and similar Jihadi groups are awash with funding from the rich urban trader classes of Pakistan as well as their sponsors from Saudi Arabia, UAE and other Arab countries.

The massacre of Shia Muslims in Pakistan is also often misrepresented and justified (yes, justified) as part of an ongoing sectarian battle between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Completely missing from this dishonest narrative is the role of the Pakistan State and the fact that since Shia Muslims opposed the forced Islamization policies of military dictator Zia ul Haq, they were made the targets of the State.

The Pashtun Shia Muslims of Parachinar and the Gilgiti Shia muslims opposed the the use of their territory for the purpose of "Strategic Depth" in Afghanistan and Kashmir and they have been massacred regularly since the 1980"²s.

In 1980, hundreds of thousands of Shia Muslims launched a peaceful sit-in protest in the capital city of Islamabad to oppose the enforcement of the "Saudi Islamic" Zakat and Ushar Ordinance and since then, they have paid the price.

If the continuing massacres of Shia Muslims in Pakistan is justified via these dishonest narratives (how can killing of anyone be justified boggles the mind), then why are the Sunni Muslims (Barelvi, Deobandi, Ahmadi) and religious minorities (Hindu, Christain, Sikhs) being killed by the same perpetrators who are also killing Shia Muslims? The answer is in the question.

However, an increasing number of Pakistan's urban educated elite prefer to remain ostriches and dismiss the killings of Shia Muslims as punishment for being Iranian fifth-columnists – for them, the Hazaras Shias undergoing genocide at the hands of the Lashkar-e-Jhangvi are not worthy of sympathy.

On Twitter and Facebook, Ahmadi Muslim activists are prominent among those who are blunty condemning the Mastung massacre along with many other Sunni Muslims. This massacre is not about sectarianism; it is about the continued support to Jihadi monsters who are not sparing anyone. The time for denial has long gone.


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LeJ leader continues to preach violence

LeJ leader continues to preach violence



Malik Ishaq vows to continue his killing spree even if he is jailed for it.


LAHORE:

'Cognitive dissonance' fails to describe the words and actions of Malik Ishaq, the leader of the sectarian militant group Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ), recently released on bail.

Far from keeping a lowprofile, the man accused of murdering 70 people – most of them Shia – is active once again, preaching hatred and violence in the name of Islam, according to an internal document prepared by a law enforcement department of the Punjab government and made available to The Express Tribune.

The document titled: "Highly objectionable activities of Malik Ishaq" reads "Please find enclosed herewith four vernacular reports regarding some highly objectionable activities of Malik Ishaq whose name has also been placed in the fourth schedule of the Anti-Terrorism Act (ATA) for information and appropriate legal action."

"Ishaq addressed Maulvi Muhammad Yasin's Madrassah Tajul Aloom at Tab Chouhan on September 2. Earlier the same day, he also gave an address at Maki Mosque, Thal Hamza District in Rahim Yar Khan," reads the cover letter enclosed with the document.
"All those against Sahaba, are not our personal enemies, but the enemies of Islam. And we will fight them "¦ we cannot tolerate these elements at any cost," Ishaq had said during his address, reveals the document.

On September 4 and 5, Ishaq also visited Tranda Panah with Shafiq Maavia, a man whose name was also placed in the fourth schedule of the ATA (meaning he and every person who visited him would be watched by the police). This programme was hosted by Ayub Maavia. He later attended a Difa-e-Sahaba conference held at Madrasa Qasamul Uloom which was hosted by Maulana Manzoor Amed.

During the conference, they chanted some highly inflammatory slogans. Ishaq, then, also vowed that the "killings of the enemies of Sahaba would continue".

"Prisons will not stop our mission. The LeJ is not a terrorist outfit. It was set up to ensure proper respect for the companions of the Holy Prophet (PBUH)," Ishaq said. He said he would not abandon its mission even if he's jailed for it once again. "Our struggle will continue," he reiterated.

On September 6 Ishaq visited the house of high-profile terrorist, Abdul Wahab alias Aanek Wala Jin, whose name is also included in the Red Book, comprising particulars of most-wanted terrorists.

He was accompanied by Qari Manzoor Ahmed Shakar, the general secretary of District Kasur, whose name is also placed in the fourth schedule of the ATA.

The entry of Malik Ishaq and Syed Ghulam Rasool Shah, a close aide of Ishaq's and coaccused in various cases of terrorism registered against the LeJ leader, has been banned within the limits of District Toba Tek Singh for three months due to provocative speeches and inciting violence.

Despite being declared a terrorist organisation, policemen have been deployed at Ishaq's residence in Mohallah Islam Nagar.

Published in The Express Tribune, September 18th, 2011.

LeJ leader continues to preach violence – The Express Tribune
 

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SOS from Pakistan - Save Pakistani Shias



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Aim

The aim of this petition is to draw the world's attention to the plight of minority Shia Muslims in Pakistan. Hundreds of Shias have been killed in the last one year alone in various acts of terrorism by the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Sipah-e-Sahaba, and other sectarian and jihadi groups in Pakistan.


Background

Shia population in Pakistan

Islam is the state religion of Pakistan with Sunni Muslims forming the majority of the population (Europa 2008 2008, 3498; US 19 Sept. 2008). According to the United States (US) Department of State's International Religious Freedom Report 2008, the Shia minority is roughly 10 to 20 percent of the population (US 19 Sept. 2008, Sec. 1; see also ibid. 6 Nov. 2008) whereas Sunnis are estimated to be constituting 70 to 85 percent of the population.


The treatment of Shias

According to the US Department of State's Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2007, Shia Muslims in Pakistan "faced discrimination and societal violence" (US 11 Mar. 2008, Sec. 5). Country Reports 2007 further states that Shia Muslims "were the targets of religious violence" (ibid. 11 Mar. 2008, Sec. 2.c). The International Religious Freedom Report 2008 indicates that some Sunni Muslim groups have published literature calling for violence against Shia Muslims (US 19 Sept. 2008, Sec. 3). Freedom House states that Shia Muslims (along with Christians and Ahmadis) are targeted by extremist groups in Pakistan (2008). Country Reports 2007 states that the "[p]olice often failed to protect members of religious minorities – particularly ... Shias – from societal attacks" (US 11 Mar. 2008, Sec. 1.d).

Source: UNHCR Report PAK102973.E: The treatment of Shias in Pakistan (2006 - November 2008) UNHCR | Refworld | Pakistan: The treatment of Shias, specifically in Multan and Lahore; government response to violence against Shias (2006 - November 2008)


An account of recent Shia killings in Pakistan (from 1 Jan to 20 Feb 2009)

Note: This is only a brief glimpse of systematic and continuous killings of Shia in Pakistan in the last few weeks. For a detailed account of the Shia genocide in the last many years in Pakistan, visit: Shaheed Foundation Pakistan

1. On 20 February 2009, a suicide bomber killed at least 32 Shias and injured another 157 who were attending the funeral of an already murdered Shia leader in the southern district of D.I. Khan (Dera Ismail Khan) in the NWFP. Previously on 21 November 2008, 6 Shia were killed and 25 more received severe injuries when a powerful bomb ripped through the funeral procession of a slain Shia leader who was shot the previous night.

2. On 19 February 2009, six Shia were killed in Parachinar when Taliban terrorists opened indiscriminate fire on them at mid-day. They had gone to collect wood from local forest. It may be noted that the Shia are under siege in Parachinar for the past many years. The massacres of hundreds of Shias in Kurram Agency in 2007 and 2008 saw regular trickles of Shias migration. (Over the years, cities like Thal, Hangu and Kohat have developed significant pockets of migrant Shia population. All this area is also the target of the Afghan refugees who have leaked out of the Afghan refugee camps and don't plan on going home because becoming a part of the Al Qaeda fighting machine is more lucrative. They take the identity of Taliban and do a lot of Shia-killing on the side. An informally named ghetto, Shiagarh, is an obvious target, located just 10 miles from Kohat going to the city of Hangu.)

3. On 19 February 2009, a Shia man, Qurban Ali, was killed and another Sabir sustained injuries when terrorists opened fire on their van in the Gilgit area.

4. On 10 February 2009, Mualana Syed Shabeer Hussain Shah was killed near Qureshi Maur; he was a prayer leader at Masjid-e-Kotla-Qaim Shah in D.I. Khan. He was 45 years old.

5. On 9 February 2009, Sardar Ali Baba, 45, was killed in Peshawar. He was the bread-winner of the family and used to run medicines' business. He is survived by four mourning children.

6. On 5 February 2009, at least 35 Shia were killed and more than 50 injured in a suicide attack on a Shia gathering in D.G. Khan.

7. On 3 February 2009, Syed Iqbal Haider Zaidi was killed when terrorists attacked him near Dabal Road, Quetta. He worked in a Wood factory to earn livelihood.

8. On 2 February 2009, Syed Munawar Kazmi of Shia Dialogue Committee was shot in D.I. Khan.

9. On 27 January 2009, Syed Ather Shah was killed by terrorists on Dial Road outside of his home in D.I. Khan. Syed aged 40 years was the caretaker of Imambargah Faqir Shah Muhallah Totaan Walla. Previously on 18 January, another Shia, Ali Abbas was killed in the same city.

10. On 26 January 2009, Hussain Ali Yousufi president of Hazara Democratic Party was killed in firing by terrorist in today morning at Jinnah Road Quetta. The killing of Shia notables in Quetta, particularly those belonging to Hazara community, has sadly become a frequent occurrence. Some of the killings have been owned by Lashkar-e-Jhangavi, a sister organization of Pakistani Taliban. The number of the Shia community members killed there over the recent years has exceeded 300. Besides religious figures, liberal politicians, businessmen and government officials have been targeted.

11. On 14 January 2009, 3 Shia Police officials named DSP Hassan Ali, Mohammad Baqir and Sifwatullah were killed in Quetta, four were injured. They were going to Police Training Centre Quetta at Saryab Road at 10: 30 AM (PST) when terrorists sprayed fires upon them. All killed and two of injured belong from Shia Community. Four days ago president of Shia Conference was also targeted in Sibi (Baluchistan). On 8th June 2003 12 Shia cadets were also killed on Sariab Road Quetta.

12. On January 2009 in Hangu,17 Shia Muslims were killed and more than 35 injured. Taliban terrorists attacked with heavy weapons on Shia populated areas of Hungo City like; Ali Abad town, Muhallah Ganjanokalay, Muhallah Sangerh and Muhallah Paskaley.

13. On 10 Jan 2009, 4 Shia were killed and another 10 are injured when Taliban attacked the Shia converged for Ashura Procession in Hangu.


In Summary

1. There is an ongoing, systematic killing of Shias in all areas in Pakistan, particularly in Kurram Agency, Kohat, Hangu, D.I. Khan and Quetta, and also in other areas.

2. Taliban have openly claimed responsibility for attacks on Shia gatherings in Pakistan. They are supported by their sister organizations such as Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan, Lashkar-e-Jhangavi and other jihadi and sectarian organizations.

3. Looming large over all sectarian violence in Pakistan in recent times are various Taliban/jihadi figures, such as that of Qari Hussain, a militant commander based in South Waziristan, who is also known by the nom de guerre Ustad-i-Fidayeen (teacher of suicide bombers). Qari Hussain is believed to be a recruiter and trainer of suicide bombers and has infused his ideology with a virulent stream of anti-Shia sectarianism. This is an approach similar to the one adopted by Abu Musab Al Zarqawi in Iraq.

4. Since the ISI is involved in promoting and protecting jihadi outfits such as Taliban, Lashkar-e-Taiba, and other jihadi and sectarian organization, the ISI's willingness to curb and eliminate acts of sectarian terror is seriously compromised or is doubtful.

5. The government's failure to track down the culprits has emboldened the perpetrators to kill with impunity. The situation has understandably enraged Shias in Pakistan. The Shia community is exasperated with the government's inability to perform one of its basic functions, that of ensuring that the lives of the people are protected. They are tired of hearing trite repetitions of promises by the Pakistan Government to 'find' the culprits and give them 'exemplary punishment'.

6. While the government has failed, the opposition's and media's role in Pakistan is no less pathetic. Some of them are clearly sympathetic to the Taliban, justifying their acts of terror, despite the fact that the Taliban have openly claimed responsibility of scores of Shia killings in Pakistan.

7. The world at large has paid little attention to the plight of Shia Muslims in Pakistan. The number of Shias killed in Pakistan in the last one year alone is much larger than the total number of Palestinians killed in the recent Gaza war. Yet, there is little international attention to the plight of Pakistani Shias.

8. The Sunni population also fears that unhindered killings of the Shias might cause sectarian strife in an area where the sects have generally coexisted peacefully for centuries. The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan has expressed its concern that the state agencies' consistent failure to track down the killers may prompt the Shia to retaliate against members of other sects, which is perhaps the sort of violence those behind the target-killings want to trigger. Source: http://www.hrcp-web.org/hrcpDetail_2.cfm?catId=180&catName=Press\ Releases


The Petition

According to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan, the recent string of target-killing of Shias in Pakistan and the government's failure to bring any of the perpetrators to justice is a cause for growing alarm.

We, the citizens of Pakistan, of all religious affiliations (including Sunni and Shia Muslims, Ahmadis, Christians, Hindus and others) are extremely sad and concerned about the ongoing, systematic killing of Shias in various parts of Pakistan. We urge you to take immediate action to stop killing of innocent Shia in Pakistan, particularly in Parachinar, D.I. Khan, Kohat, Hangu, Quetta and other areas affected by violence against Shia.

We believe that the Shia killing is not an act of sectarian violence by Sunnis. In fact, these acts of terror are being perpetrated by a handful of extremist Deobandis and Wahhabis (Salafis) who are currently operating under different names, such as Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP), Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LeJ) and other jihadi and sectarian organisations.

We also believe that Pakistan's Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) is responsible for engineering, planning and facilitating these acts of terror in order to execute and expand its jihadi agenda, and to implement a plan to convert Pakistan into a puritanical Wahhabi state.

The sad and gory events of Shia massacres in Quetta, D. I. Khan, D. G. Khan, Parachinar, Hangu and other areas in Pakistan in the last few weeks should have acted as awakeners for the Pakistan Government - especially for those sections of it directly responsible for protecting lives of the people (i.e. Police, ISI and the Army). They have failed to fulfil their duty to protect the lives of citizens who, in the words of the newspaper 'Dawn', are the continued targets of "a one-sided massacre of unwary mourners."

However, given that the current civilian government in Pakistan has little power over the ISI and its unholy alliance with the jihadi/sectarian organisations, we urge that external and internal stakeholders in Pakistan (e.g., the UN, USA, UK, Saudi Arabia, China, Iran, Afghanistan) will be able to influence the military leadership in Pakistan to reconsider their policy of abetting and protecting jihadi and sectarian terrorists.

If, however, Government of Pakistan is serious about taking steps to control and reverse the menace of target killing of Shias, here are some steps for immediate implementation.

We demand that:

"¢ Government must constitute a permanent, high-power Anti-Sectarianism Commission in Pakistan, comprising the Chief of Army Staff, Chief of the ISI, a judge of the Supreme Court, federal minister of religious affairs, representatives of Shia, Deobandi, Barelvi, Salafi communities as well as members of minority communities. The Commission must meet at least once every three months to monitor the state of sectarian violence in Pakistan and deliberate on the progress to curb sectarian terrorism.

"¢ Local commandants of the ISI as well as local DIG/SP of Police must be held responsible for any act of sectarian terror which takes place their respective areas of jurisdiction. If they are unable to stop acts of terror or to arrest terrorists involved, the ISI and Police officials must be dismissed from their duties, arrested and tried for their negligence or complicity in the acts of terror.

"¢ Terrorists involved in acts of violence and those supporting them within the military and civil establishment must be arrested and tried immediately in anti-terrorist courts (ATCs). Bring people responsible and behind these killing to justices; punish them to maximum limit – the maximum time between arrest and sentence must not be more than three months. All of those involved in encouraging or executing sectarian violence must be punished with death sentence because there are instances in which these terrorists either managed to flee the prison by bribing the jail authorities or by harassing the judges through the ISI or Taliban.

"¢ The arch-terrorists of Taliban, Sipah-e-Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi who are already under arrest, e.g., Akram Lahori, Malik Ishaque and Hafiz Shahid, all of whom have accepted killing Shia Muslims, shown no remorse, and promised 'more of the same' if they get the opportunity, should be publicly hanged forthwith as per sentences already handed down by ATCs. This will act as a strong deterrent to prospective travellers of this short-cut to heaven.

"¢ The mullahs who advocate 'takfeer' of Shia Muslims (i.e. declaring Shias as non-Muslims; creating sectarian hatred) be jailed immediately and tried in anti-terrorism courts, and barred from holding membership of parliament or legislatures. Sitting members of assemblies and other famous 'scholars' who have published the fatwa of takfeer of Shia Muslims include Maulana Samiul Haq, Hafiz Hussain Ahmed, Maulana Abdul Ghafoor, Maulana Maula Bakhsh, Maulana Muhammad Ayub Khan Binori and others.

"¢ The madrassahs in which Shias are portrayed as Kafir (non-Muslim) or which promote sectarian hatred against Shias must be immediately closed down, and their leaders arrested.

"¢ Defeating the hydra of militancy does require different tactics at the local level, but there must be overall strategic coherency too. Currently, Pakistan is fighting the militants piecemeal in different areas of the country. That must change; the militants must be pursued across the length and breadth of the country simultaneously. There must be no dialogue with sectarian terrorists; they deserve no mercy.

"¢ Compensate Shia Muslims affected during sectarian attacks financially; Rs. 1 million compensation per Shia death must be paid to the family of each Shia killed; Rs. 5 lac per person should be paid as compensation to those injured. Other loss of property must be totally compensated.

"¢ Provide security and support to Shia not only through adequate police security but also by providing Shia mosques and imambargahs with latest scanners, anti-bomb equipment and anti-terrorism training so that Shias could secure themselves from any future attacks.

"¢ STOP SHIA KILLINGS in Pakistan.


Sincerely,
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Mastung incident: BHC takes suo motu notice of atrocity





QUETTA:

Balochistan High Court Chief Justice Qazi Faez Isa on Thursday took suo motu notice of the Ganjidori incident in which 26 Shia pilgrims were killed in an attack on a passenger bus on September 20. The hearing will begin on September 26.


The chief justice took note of the incident following appeals from civil society members after reports on the incident were published in local and national media. The passengers were forced to disembark the bus and were shot dead in cold blood. The court observed that the incident has spread terror among the people of Balochistan and traumatised a segment of society.

The court has issued notices to the government of Balochistan through secretary home and tribal affairs, and the federal government through the interior secretary, provincial police chief, inspector general Frontier Corps, commissioner Kalat division, deputy commissioner Kalat and director general Levies.

Meanwhile, the Balochistan government has decided to form a wing of the Anti Terrorism Force (ATF) exclusively to provide security cover to the Hazara community in Quetta.

The decision was taken following the targeted killing of 26 pilgrims in Mastung. Anti-Terrorism Force (ATF) personnel and police with anti-terrorism training will be recruited for the wing.


Hazara Town and Marriabad are two Hazara populated townships in the provincial capital where the government has decided to deploy the special force. "It has been observed that the Hazara community is being subjected to targeted killings and bomb blasts, thus the government has decided to provide them adequate security," said Balochistan Home Secretary Naseebullah Bazai.

"Private transporters who provide transportation to pilgrims from Quetta to Iran had already been directed to get themselves registered with the provincial home department. The law already exists at the federal level by which transporters must first inform the government if they provide transportation to pilgrims."

Shia Muslims usually travel from Quetta to Iran through private transport companies and mostly without any security cover. "It is unfortunate that the killings have intensified. Therefore, the government is compelled to adopt strict security measures," Bazai added.

Another decision under consideration was to deploy personnel of Federal Levies along the borders of Afghanistan and Iran. "There are 3,000 personnel of Federal Levies and they will be posted along the borders and highways as we cannot deny the fact that cross border activities have caused much damage to peace in the province," he said.


Published in The Express Tribune, September 23rd, 2011.


Mastung incident: BHC takes suo motu notice of atrocity – The Express Tribune
 

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Shias generally have a rough time at most of the places!
 

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Shias generally have a rough time at most of the places!
Except India!!

One would consider Iran, but anyone who has to put up with Ahmajinad and Khomeini is having roughest of times.
 

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Is tolerance forgotten by these killers? How can anyone be so thick headed that they kill people with a slightly different ideology. They are muslims after all.
 

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There will be worldwide protest demonstrations in Asia, Australia, Europe and America on October 01 against the targeted killing and ethnic massacre of the Hazaras in Quetta, Pakistan. It is against the ethnic cleansing of Hazaras in Pakistan. -- Press Club
 
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There will be worldwide protest demonstrations in Asia, Australia, Europe and America on October 01 against the targeted killing and ethnic massacre of the Hazaras in Quetta, Pakistan. We request all the Hazaras and humanity loving people around the world to raise voice against the ethnic cleansing of Hazaras in Pakistan. -- Press Club (News yet to publish)
stop this hypocrisy. why should Indian should raise voice against a pakistan's regional minority. whats our link with them. ok we expect a potential proxy in them to rise up against pakistani state.
 

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stop this hypocrisy. why should Indian should raise voice against a pakistan's regional minority. whats our link with them. ok we expect a potential proxy in them to rise up against pakistani state.
Who is raising the voice ? I just posted the News as it is. I didn't added or modified anything.
 

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no need to post infact. its their internal matter. it looks very cheap on enjoying someone's problem of such high gravity. it shows how deeply we are against the existence of a state while claiming that its that state standing against us.
 

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no need to post infact. its their internal matter. it looks very cheap on enjoying someone's problem of such high gravity. it shows how deeply we are against the existence of a state while claiming that its that state standing against us.
You are getting emotional. Don't worry. We are not enjoying. We are only posting which is reliable news. They do conspiracy theory all the time. I modified some part (you also change in reply with quoto in same way.)
 

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no need to post infact. its their internal matter. it looks very cheap on enjoying someone's problem of such high gravity. it shows how deeply we are against the existence of a state while claiming that its that state standing against us.
I do not agree.

It is not about "enjoying". It is about "publicizing", and "creating awareness". And maybe it is not relevant at all, but do observe the "Sticky threads" in Paki forums on Kashmir, North East, Modi, Gujarat "genocide", etc. etc.

I am not ashamed at all to say that I am against the existance of Pakistan is its current form. I do not mind if the country continues to exist with its current geographical boundaries - but not with the current mindset and ethos of that country.

Why should any Indian be ashamed of such a thing? The nation who has attacked us without provocation multiple times, caused bloodshed of innocents all over our cities, sponsored the Punjab insurgency and the Kashmir insurgency, tried their best to destabilize India in every way and do any amount of evil to us.

And you want Indians to pray for the continued existance of such a state?

Let us get one thing clear - a stable Pakistan is NOT in India's interest, no matter how much the stupid Indian media drills that into us. A stable Pakistan will result in more Khalistani and Kashmiri and other movements all over India.

it is nice to be a nice guy, but not at one's own expense!!
 

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अस्थिर पाकिस्तान भारत के लिए अनुकूल है
 

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hey guys. do you really wanna ape pakistanis by highlighting the internal situation of enemy. even if they are enemy. we have certain ethics and there are lots many thing that differentiate us from them. they may have thread on NE, kashmir and all but does that really maters. anything on net on such issues dont affect matter on ground. 10-20 posts on thread and anyone visiting the thread can easily conclude that Indian can go against mankind when it comes to pakistan. and we are not like this. or are we?
 

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अस्थिर पाकिस्तान भारत के लिए अनुकूल है
just imagine india bordering afghanistan. troublesome picture in mind. radicalized pakistan will be like my statement goin true
 

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^^ "Go against mankind"? You speak as though it's Indians who are causing all the mayhem there!

They wanted their Pakistan, they got it, they ruined it. It is all Pakistanis who are killing other Pakistanis. Whether on the basis of Muslim-Kaffir, Ahmadiya-Shia-Sunni, Mohajir-Pashtun, etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately this business of "we are better than them, we will not even speak of their problems, let them do what they will" is beyond me. I will not celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians, but I will highlight every blow that the state of Pakistan gets, in any way whatsoever, and will encourage others to do so.
 

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If the Shias are being massacred, then it is time for them to stand up and give it back.

If they can't, then they will either have to shape up or ship out.

That is how the Islamic Brotherhood works dreaming of the ummah!!
 

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^^ "Go against mankind"? You speak as though it's Indians who are causing all the mayhem there!

They wanted their Pakistan, they got it, they ruined it. It is all Pakistanis who are killing other Pakistanis. Whether on the basis of Muslim-Kaffir, Ahmadiya-Shia-Sunni, Mohajir-Pashtun, etc. etc. etc.

Unfortunately this business of "we are better than them, we will not even speak of their problems, let them do what they will" is beyond me. I will not celebrate the deaths of innocent civilians, but I will highlight every blow that the state of Pakistan gets, in any way whatsoever, and will encourage others to do so.
as u wish. im no supporter though.
 

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just imagine india bordering afghanistan. troublesome picture in mind. radicalized pakistan will be like my statement goin true
Really does not matter.

A "non-radicalized Pakistan", or more accurately a "less-radicalized Pakistan" is what we had in the 80s and 90s. We all saw how that turned out for us.

Have you seen those pictures of the India-Pakistan border? Tall fences with lights so bright, that it is visible like a wall of fire, even from the international space station. Look up the images on Google if you haven't seen those. It gives me hope, even in the face of a "radicalized Pakistan". And a truly "radicalized Pakistan" can spend less energy, time and money on their Casmere and Ghazwa-E-Hind ambitions.
 

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