Pakistan's new strategy: Exploit India's fault-lines on caste and religion, encourage Modi baiters

[busesaway]

Well, he just fooled you. There's a lot about BSP you don't know and I trust me, you won't like to know as well.

Do you mind telling me more about the party?

In theory, a Buddhist party could be an alliance of several existing political parties, including BSP, communists, and INC lawmakers. It would be interesting since the INC appears to be collapsing.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Do you mind telling me more about the party?

In theory, a Buddhist party could be an alliance of several existing political parties, including BSP, communists, and INC lawmakers. It would be interesting since the INC appears to be collapsing.

Main issue, with BSP is corruptio; extensive corruption. It's ground levels are even worse than INC. Ask to any Indian (except BSP's party members), if they're going to vote for it.

 

[busesaway]

Main issue, with BSP is corruptio; extensive corruption. It's ground levels are even worse than INC. Ask to any Indian (except BSP's party members), if they're going to vote for it.

I dislike how corrupt politics in India is. It's why India has two-lane highways instead of six-lane highways... it's a hangover from the colonial era.

I presume the party could be an alliance of smaller parties based around existing movements: Communism, Anna Hazare, Irom Sharmila, Navayana, Dalai Lama, etc... and it could cater for the increasing influence of East Asia in Indian politics. It would also provide a home for the closest allies of India: Bhutan, Nepal, and Sri Lanka.

I want it to tackle issues such as: minorities, human rights, corruption, nationalism, regionalism, indian religons, etc...

Considering the sheer amount of bribes being provided by Middle Eastern lobbies to socialist political parties in the west, I think that these lobbies should be able to fund a Islamic party in India that courts the Muslim vote instead.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I dislike how corrupt politics in India is. It's why India has two-lane highways instead of six-lane highways... it's a hangover from the colonial era.

I presume the party could be an alliance of smaller parties based around existing movements: Communism, Anna Hazare, Irom Sharmila, Navayana, Dalai Lama, etc... and it could cater for the increasing influence of East Asia in Indian politics. It would also provide a home for the closest allies of India: Bhutan, Nepal, and Sri Lanka.

I want it to tackle issues such as: minorities, human rights, corruption, nationalism, regionalism, indian religons, etc...

Considering the sheer amount of bribes being provided by Middle Eastern lobbies to socialist political parties in the west, I think that these lobbies should be able to fund a Islamic party in India that courts the Muslim vote instead.

No, we don't need any alliance.
BSP is corrupt, out of power.

With current party BJP, India scores better than China in corruption Index, not a single scam occurred in this rule. Core of BJP is nationalism (and fascism to some extent which is good for India but not our neighbors.:biggrin2.

India is making 40 kilometers of roads everyday and has target of making 18000 kms of six lane motorways in 5 years. This party is enough, don't complicate situation.

In the greed of more, I don't wanna lose this.

 

[busesaway]

No, we don't need any alliance.
BSP is corrupt, out of power.

With current party BJP, India scores better than China in corruption Index, not a single scam occurred in this rule. Core of BJP is nationalism (and fascism to some extent which is good for India but not our neighbors.:biggrin2.

India is making 40 kilometers of roads everyday and has target of making 18000 kms of six lane motorways in 5 years. This party is enough, don't complicate situation.

In the greed of more, I don't wanna lose this.

I'll quote my post from another thread that covers this question:

I actually praise the the Chennai-centrism of 'The Hindu' because I consider most major news sites to be too "New Delhi centric". It's important to note that the 'The Hindu' is supportive of UPA, which I slightly disagree with; I would prefer that it supports a conservative political party with a more 'liberal' slant.


What I like about a news organization is that I want it to focus on:

• Indian Religions
• South Indians (and the wider Indian Ocean, in traditional South Indian style)
• Federalism and state devolution
• 'Human Rights', albeit based on Indian philosophy
• Minorities (women, sexual minorities, etc...)
• Vegetarianism, animal rights, and environmental welfare
• Self-defense military (in the Hindu sense, not the Buddhist/Japanese sense)

I don't read the newspaper. I just enjoy the idea of a national news network called "HNN". But I would want it to focus on more traditional Hindu values based on Indian philosophy. And maybe prioritize South Indians over North Indians, to counter the New Delhi bias.

If 'The Hindu' was taken to national network status, I would enjoy the conservative-nationalist slant of The Hindu News Network.

On the fishermen issue, I actually think this is one of the areas that integration between Sri Lanka and India would help with. In the EU, there was a famous war between Iceland and the UK over fishing rights called "The Cod Wars"; the issue was mostly resolved diplomatically through the EU when the 'Common Fisheries Policy' was introduced. I call for deeper integration in-between India and Sri Lanka.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

I'll quote my post from another thread that covers this question:

But that's pointless man.
UPA neither is in power, nor seeming to get back before a decade.

 

[busesaway]

But that's pointless man.
UPA neither is in power, nor seeming to get back before a decade.

I don't like the UPA either, but I want a news lobby that supports the minorities, anti-corruption movement, environmentalism, and supports more traditional values than the BJP.

The BJP is also practically non-existent in South India.

 

[DingDong]

I don't like the UPA either, but I want a news lobby that supports the minorities, anti-corruption movement, environmentalism, and supports more traditional values than the BJP.

The BJP is also practically non-existent in South India.

BJP is non-existent in South India?

1. Karnataka: BJP is the main opposition party
2. Kerala: BJP has made significant inroads, won a seat in recently concluded assembly election
3. Andhra and Telangana: BJP certainly is not a non-entity
4. Tamilnadu: BJP is certainly increasing it's footprint

 

[Indx TechStyle]

supports more traditional values than the BJP.

At least today, such party does not exist.

 

[sorcerer]

I don't like the UPA either, but I want a news lobby that supports the minorities, anti-corruption movement, environmentalism, and supports more traditional values than the BJP.

The BJP is also practically non-existent in South India.

Does that mean you want a NEWS lobby that supports NGO in the guise of all these MOVEMENTS? so that an internal conflict or civil unrest can be propped up against the BJP government that is trying to shape up a few things!!

Well!! Havent we seen em all them News Lobbys in many flavors.

 

[IndianHawk]

I dislike how corrupt politics in India is. It's why India has two-lane highways instead of six-lane highways... it's a hangover from the colonial era.

I presume the party could be an alliance of smaller parties based around existing movements: Communism, Anna Hazare, Irom Sharmila, Navayana, Dalai Lama, etc... and it could cater for the increasing influence of East Asia in Indian politics. It would also provide a home for the closest allies of India: Bhutan, Nepal, and Sri Lanka.

I want it to tackle issues such as: minorities, human rights, corruption, nationalism, regionalism, indian religons, etc...

Considering the sheer amount of bribes being provided by Middle Eastern lobbies to socialist political parties in the west, I think that these lobbies should be able to fund a Islamic party in India that courts the Muslim vote instead.

Politics is corrupt everywhere.
What developed nations have done successfully is to turn corruption into somewhat legal business enterprises.

For example lobbying in USA.

We need to channel our greed in a balanced nationalistic narrative.

India has two lane highway mostly because it never had money to build 6 lane .
In business in politics in bureaucracy in industry people who are more intelligent more shrewd take lead over others. And they maximize their own power .

We need a system where the growth of powerful, intelligent elite is closely linked with growth of common people.

Anything else is a recipe for chaos.

 

[busesaway]

Politics is corrupt everywhere.
What developed nations have done successfully is to turn corruption into somewhat legal business enterprises.

For example lobbying in USA.

We need to channel our greed in a balanced nationalistic narrative.

India has two lane highway mostly because it never had money to build 6 lane .
In business in politics in bureaucracy in industry people who are more intelligent more shrewd take lead over others. And they maximize their own power .

We need a system where the growth of powerful, intelligent elite is closely linked with growth of common people.

Anything else is a recipe for chaos.

I agree that politics is universally corrupt. There's a huge issue in the west about socialist parties taking bribes from muslim lobbies based in the Middle East, and courting the Middle Eastern and Muslim vote. The media probably try to tone it down because it hurts their political cause and encourages the far-right (who are gaining popularity fast).

I think corruption plays a huge factor in why India's infrastructure is so poor. If you look at some of the biggest scandals in Indian history (2G, Commonwealth Games, etc...) that you can understand why.

In the United States, they've transformed corruption/bribery into a combination of lobbying and tipping; this in itself is looked down on in Europe and East Asia though.

I think this is where an opposition movement can help play a role, by challenging the dominance of BJP, in the same manner Trump and the far-right have done in the west.

 

[busesaway]

Does that mean you want a NEWS lobby that supports NGO in the guise of all these MOVEMENTS? so that an internal conflict or civil unrest can be propped up against the BJP government that is trying to shape up a few things!!

Well!! Havent we seen em all them News Lobbys in many flavors.

There are many aspects of the NDA that I dislike. There needs to, at least, be a wing of the NDA to support, and I think the catalyst would need to be some sort of lobby or media organization.

Hinduism, the core religion that NDA revolves around, isn't as regressive as the NDA is. There needs to be a movement to "purify" the political party.

 

[busesaway]

BJP is non-existent in South India?

1. Karnataka: BJP is the main opposition party
2. Kerala: BJP has made significant inroads, won a seat in recently concluded assembly election
3. Andhra and Telangana: BJP certainly is not a non-entity
4. Tamilnadu: BJP is certainly increasing it's footprint

Karnataka is the only major state where BJP play a role. In every other state, it needs to form an alliance with another party.

I agree with this method however. It's similar to how the European Union works; each state has their own variety of political parties, and form an alliance at European level. One would think that the EU was copying India.

At least today, such party does not exist.

Hopefully someone will launch such a party. These types of parties exist in East Asia at least.

 

[sorcerer]

I dislike how corrupt politics in India is. It's why India has two-lane highways instead of six-lane highways... it's a hangover from the colonial era.

Not just in India..corruption is part of evey day politics in every nation.
Two lane highways are getting converted into 6 lanes..but its a gradual process a change from colonial era.

I presume the party could be an alliance of smaller parties based around existing movements: Communism, Anna Hazare, Irom Sharmila, Navayana, Dalai Lama, etc... and it could cater for the increasing influence of East Asia in Indian politics. It would also provide a home for the closest allies of India: Bhutan, Nepal, and Sri Lanka.

Coupling movements and smaller parties in alliance creates the deadly mix of coalition govt which is more corrupt as smaller parties would want to make the most of when they can..
Commuism is the most corrupt in India..them were never in power but you can see what communism did to Bengal and Kerala a few pockets where commies did actively rule.

All these people..Anna Hazare..Irom Sharmila etc are not political..They are fighting for a social cause and giving political exposure to social cause will shut the "SOCIAL" part of cause and then it becomes a POLITICAL CAUSE..which means that will soon turn into an agenda for political mileage..which already is anyway...

We all know how AAP is born and what they are doing now.
SHIT happens with people who want to SLING themselves into power highlighting a SOCIAL CAUSE.
India has already seen such crap on a cracker before..AAP being the latest.

Some Genuine people fight for RESPECTIVE SOCIAL CAUSE.
Do you think these people can give a BROADER FRAMEWORK for a NATION as a WHOLE? Do you think they have any idea about politics of running a nation?
If they were so awesome with politics to bring a change..they wouldnt be sitting dharnas for Social cause..they will be using their leverage politically for a social cause.

Politics and social mechanics are totally different brew altogether and democracy is kinda like making a better cocktail of all the potent brews you have with you.


Indian politics is already a good welcoming space and home for allies of India like Bhutan Nepal and Srilanka..
Getting closer to political alliance of these nations will make it look like INDIA IS CONTROLLING the internal politics of these nations. or atleast it can be misinterpreted that way by regions other players like china.

I want it to tackle issues such as: minorities, human rights, corruption, nationalism, regionalism, indian religons, etc...

That doesnt require politics... There are lot of individuals who has really done their part to bring radical social changes.

Its just a matter of WILL!!
One man’s orange revolution: Harekala Hajabba

For thirty years, hajabba has sold oranges to run a school for underprivileged kids

http://www.deccanchronicle.com/150101/nation-education/article/one-man’s-orange-revolution-harekala-hajabba

IS this guy a politician? No!! he just has a powerful will.
Dont mix politics with WILL and everything is good..once you mix politics with WILL you have corruption and crap..


Leave the religions at it and they wont harm the humans..once you try to play with it thats when humans become pregnant with religion.

Considering the sheer amount of bribes being provided by Middle Eastern lobbies to socialist political parties in the west, I think that these lobbies should be able to fund a Islamic party in India that courts the Muslim vote instead.

Are you serious! Living under the rock you are not..are you?
This is already done...in the name of FUND for charity to promote EXTREMISM..installation of SHARIA etc in different parts of the world..EU being the latest.
India has taken this poison and knows how to handle it..unlike EU which fell for the party drug.

India is a democracy and HOW CAN A DEMOCRATIC PARTY support a RELIGION for a PARTY..

ARe you contradicting yourself so that your narrative to faction India further as an agenda for posts are guised well enough. At one post you want democracy and then at other you want to support minorities seeking a justifuckation for promoting civil unrest and NOW you want ISLAMIC PARTY In a democracy for MUSLIM VOTES .


Atleast for now your posts are batting along the lines of the Pakistan's NEW STRATEGY..Exploit Indias Fault Lines on Castes and Religion

 

[sorcerer]

There are many aspects of the NDA that I dislike. There needs to, at least, be a wing of the NDA to support, and I think the catalyst would need to be some sort of lobby or media organization.

Hinduism, the core religion that NDA revolves around, isn't as regressive as the NDA is. There needs to be a movement to "purify" the political party.

Lobby is Capitalistic..you cant expect an UTOPIAN LOBBY to work for world peace. because to lobby YOU NEED MONEY and money is printed only by a nations treasury....and well you know how the rest of it falls for the LOBBY BUSINESS.

HINDUISM because majority of India are HINDUS and that justifies why the NDA revolves around the majority...but it does takes care of the minorities better than UPA

 

[republic_roi97]

Karnataka is the only major state where BJP play a role. In every other state, it needs to form an alliance with another party.

I agree with this method however. It's similar to how the European Union works; each state has their own variety of political parties, and form an alliance at European level. One would think that the EU was copying India.

The Unity between India's various states has been matured and strengthened by British raj of 200 years and Mughal rule (for most of the northern India) of 500-600 years. You can find somewhat same "way of life" all around India. And people often misunderstand Hinduism as a religion, boy are they living in an oblivion, Dharma never has been religion neither will be. And hinduism is called as Sanatan Dharma, Its a way of life that unites "Bharat Rashtra" since long before the times of Vikramaditya and Ashoka.

 

[Screambowl]

sheila, munni and sunny leone
they are current Sanatan Dharm of India.

 

[DingDong]

Karnataka is the only major state where BJP play a role. In every other state, it needs to form an alliance with another party.

I agree with this method however. It's similar to how the European Union works; each state has their own variety of political parties, and form an alliance at European level. One would think that the EU was copying India.



Hopefully someone will launch such a party. These types of parties exist in East Asia at least.

There is very little similarity between India and EU. India is one NATION.

I am waiting for the day when a Statesman from down South will become the Prime Minister of India (not a weak PM like Deve Gowda but a strong one like Modi), for that to happen national parties will have to increase their footprint in South, or even better, south must give birth to a National party.

 

[IndianHawk]

There is very little similarity between India and EU. India is one NATION.

I am waiting for the day when a Statesman from down South will become the Prime Minister of India (not a weak PM like Deve Gowda but a strong one like Modi), for that to happen national parties will have to increase their footprint in South, or even better, south must give birth to a National party.

If UP is divided into multiple states in future the probability of a southern prime minister increases manifold .