Pakistanis Claiming Vedic Civilisation As Ancient Pakistan, Need To Counter It

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OH MY God!! What happen to land of pure.First of all they were bashing R&AW for terror attacks in there , now they are claiming vedic civilisation....:playball:
My dear friends look what our evil hindu baniya RAW did to pakistan:devil:
Yawn! No body in this world cares damn about them.:)
 

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OH MY God!! What happen to land of pure.First of all they were bashing R&AW for terror attacks in there , now they are claiming vedic civilisation....:playball:
My dear friends look what our evil hindu baniya RAW did to pakistan:devil:
Yawn! No body in this world cares damn about them.:)
Identity Crisis ho gayi hai wahan. Fighting whether they are arab, greek or from subcontinent :)
 

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I have said this before and will say it again. There is no Ancient Pakistan.

Pakistan is an accident of geography. Radcliffe was up sitting at night and made up Pakistan's border.
 

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I have said this before and will say it again. There is no Ancient Pakistan.

Pakistan is an accident of geography. Radcliffe was up sitting at night and made up Pakistan's border.
Americans call Pakistan as 'A Geographical Absurdity'
 

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But aren't bakis the proud rape child of mughal,turks, Arabs ,Irani and Mongols.
Why would they like to associate themselves with looser hindus??
 

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For every Paki claiming Vedas there are million others who think they are Arabs or whatever they want to be. Accepting that their forefathers were Hindu is not going to happen.

You are talking about the country where Zaid Hamid has over one lakh young educated fans who believe Saudi has all the oil because Muslims pray in it's direction and 65 war was won by ghosts of Muslim soldiers on horses.

So no alarm bells there.
 

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The whole concept of Pakistan is absurd because muslims OF INDIA lived in India with hindus OF INDIA during mughal period, but after that some of them believed that their power/influence over the country after independence which was already at its weakest point before the brits came in, will wane further.

So these power hungry muslims decided they wanted a seperate nation because they didn't want to share their power with hindus, so they create this story of hindus and muslims can't live together requesting the brits to carve a place for them, which happened to be north west of India and some parts of east India cause the muslim population was highest in these regions.

So from where the hell did this ancient pakistan comes from:pound:

Does that mean there ancient Bangladesh or formely west Ancient Pakistan:facepalm:
 
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Pakistanis/afghans are part of India's Vedic history. The denial is from the religious basis for their creation. If they were the same people why did they need to separate? Even if they had little option since England did the dividing. There would be no need for enemity and continued hostilities. Though many outside powers in control would oppose peace in any form.
 

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Buddhist idols were found even in Afganistan. Many places in Pakistan have hindu sites of historic relavance. If Pakistan claims to represent the fact that they are custodians, then they should agree to the fact that their ancestors were Hindus and were invaded by Mugals or Arabs like Muhammad bin Qasim, Mahmud of Ghazni, Mohammed Ghori and Alexander, Genghis Khan they crossed the Hindukush into India. India was never invaded from the Himalayan route.

After Timur's empire disintegrated, his descendant Babur, having inherited a small kindgom in Ferghana (present day Uzbekistan) and losing it, ended up as king of Kabul. With dreams of emulating Timur, and cannons which were gifted to him by the Ottomans, he invaded India, won at Panipat in 1526 and established the Mughal empire in Delhi. The word Mughal was what the Persian Shah referred to him as. It was used as a derogatory term. But it meant Mongol, and Babur decided to adopt that as the name for his dynasty. Babur was a Timurid (direct descendant of Timur), and his maternal grandmother was a direct descendant of Genghis Khan. Babur was much inspired by both Timur and Genghis.

Since more of the Attacks were via Hindukush presently Afganistan and parts of Pakistan, All the local population was either killed or were forced converts. As per history, Sindh was the wild frontier region of al-Hind, inhabited mostly by semi-nomadic tribes. Raja Dahir(A Hindu) was the ruler. The army of Muhammad bin Qasim probably numbered 20,000 - 25000 men, while the Army of Sindh had 60 elephants and 20000 to 50000 soldiers. In the ensuing battle in June 712 AD, the Hindu army fled the field after Raja Dahir was killed, 15,000 going to Rawar and others to Brahmanabad. Arabs marched north after the siege and capture of Rawer. Brahmanabad, then Alor (Aror) and finally Multan led by by Muhammad bin Qasim.

After battles all fighting men were executed and their wives and children enslaved in considerable numbers and the usual fifth of the booty and slaves were sent to Hajjaj

After the capture of Multan, Muhammad assembled an army of 50,000 soldiers,the essentially Arab army that had captured Sindh had been joined by Muslim volunteers, new converts then spearheading the Arab conquests across the Oxus and Muhammad b. Qasim, now master of Sindh and Southern Punjab. This may explain the expedition of Muhammad up to the foothills of Kashmir along the Jhelum in 713 AD, the attack on Al-Kiraj (probably the Kangra valley) and sending 10,000 cavalry to defeat the Army of Hara Chandra, King of Qinnauj (probably not Kanauj) near Udaypur on the banks of Ghaggar, 14 miles south of Alwana. Chandrapida, Karakota dynasty King of Kashmir.

So the people in Pakistan who call themselves muslims were no other than Hindus who got converted because of fear of slaughtering after conquest by Arab invaders or sons from Hindu mothers who were enslaved by Arabs.
 

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I mentioned mods too, because I need a link or proof to authenticate whatever I am saying. And look at those Pakistanis, how proudly they are claiming.

Heights of Identity Crisis these Pakistanis have. We should utilize this opportunity
Lmao.. Nobody considers hinsf arab or Turk.. We are what we are but we are definetly not from up or Maharashtra ..

We are an ethnically diverse country,. N owners of IVC,Gandhara?Mehrgarh?Harrapa etx not some troll from bihar or madhyapradesh..

Deal with it!
 

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Buddhist idols were found even in Afganistan. Many places in Pakistan have hindu sites of historic relavance. If Pakistan claims to represent the fact that they are custodians, then they should agree to the fact that their ancestors were Hindus and were invaded by Mugals or Arabs like Muhammad bin Qasim, Mahmud of Ghazni, Mohammed Ghori and Alexander, Genghis Khan they crossed the Hindukush into India. India was never invaded from the Himalayan route.

After Timur's empire disintegrated, his descendant Babur, having inherited a small kindgom in Ferghana (present day Uzbekistan) and losing it, ended up as king of Kabul. With dreams of emulating Timur, and cannons which were gifted to him by the Ottomans, he invaded India, won at Panipat in 1526 and established the Mughal empire in Delhi. The word Mughal was what the Persian Shah referred to him as. It was used as a derogatory term. But it meant Mongol, and Babur decided to adopt that as the name for his dynasty. Babur was a Timurid (direct descendant of Timur), and his maternal grandmother was a direct descendant of Genghis Khan. Babur was much inspired by both Timur and Genghis.

Since more of the Attacks were via Hindukush presently Afganistan and parts of Pakistan, All the local population was either killed or were forced converts. As per history, Sindh was the wild frontier region of al-Hind, inhabited mostly by semi-nomadic tribes. Raja Dahir(A Hindu) was the ruler. The army of Muhammad bin Qasim probably numbered 20,000 - 25000 men, while the Army of Sindh had 60 elephants and 20000 to 50000 soldiers. In the ensuing battle in June 712 AD, the Hindu army fled the field after Raja Dahir was killed, 15,000 going to Rawar and others to Brahmanabad. Arabs marched north after the siege and capture of Rawer. Brahmanabad, then Alor (Aror) and finally Multan led by by Muhammad bin Qasim.

After battles all fighting men were executed and their wives and children enslaved in considerable numbers and the usual fifth of the booty and slaves were sent to Hajjaj

After the capture of Multan, Muhammad assembled an army of 50,000 soldiers,the essentially Arab army that had captured Sindh had been joined by Muslim volunteers, new converts then spearheading the Arab conquests across the Oxus and Muhammad b. Qasim, now master of Sindh and Southern Punjab. This may explain the expedition of Muhammad up to the foothills of Kashmir along the Jhelum in 713 AD, the attack on Al-Kiraj (probably the Kangra valley) and sending 10,000 cavalry to defeat the Army of Hara Chandra, King of Qinnauj (probably not Kanauj) near Udaypur on the banks of Ghaggar, 14 miles south of Alwana. Chandrapida, Karakota dynasty King of Kashmir.

So the people in Pakistan who call themselves muslims were no other than Hindus who got converted because of fear of slaughtering after conquest by Arab invaders or sons from Hindu mothers who were enslaved by Arabs.
Funny .. When Babur came we had people like Ibrahim Lodhi and even Raja Hassan Khan (mewat)... Along with muslim Chiefs of Gakhars were allied with afghans/Pashtuns ,Janjuas supporting/allied him in the Potohar region .. Meanwhile Pashtuns resisted ..(Ibrahim Lodhi allied with Rana Sangha) along with Raja Hassan Khan of Mewat whom Babyr hated for allying with Hibdus pagans!


As for qasims so yeah he defeated a local King and converted millions of ppl in different regions ,or countries (back than there were States)... And amazingly still today Sindh had the largest hindu population in the country and all that just in a small period of time.. He had muslamic ray guns too., hahaha.. Sindhi Saints like Bhittai,Qallander etc. (Also revered by hindus) were fake n so is the liberal Sufi culture of sibdh...

You ppl are a bunch of clowns with distorted history...


"Oh he killed n converted Pakistanis n didn't rape us indians and ruled from Delhi after victory of Panipat "...he became soft there right ?:lol:
 
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Lmao.. Nobody considers hinsf arab or Turk.. We are what we are but we are definetly not from up or Maharashtra ..

We are an ethnically diverse country,. N owners of IVC,Gandhara?Mehrgarh?Harrapa etx not some troll from bihar or madhyapradesh..

Deal with it!
Right that never happens. A pakistani claiming to be Arab or Turk or Irani or Central Asian. My bad.

Every single Muslim in the subcontinent believes s/he is of Arab descent. If not direct Arab descent, then the illustrious ancestor had come from either Iran or Bukhara. Interestingly, the ancestor is always a great general or a saint.

Within a generation or two, those early converts began the great lie of Arab ancestry to be equal to other converts and the Arabs. This became universal with time.

The challenge then is for all those, Baloch, Pathan, Punjabi et al, who have invented illegitimate fathers for ourselves to get ourselves tested and know the bitter truth.

http://tribune.com.pk/story/317619/arab-origins/

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-asia-are-descended-from-rapists-8375422.html

You renamed your third largest city from Lyallpur to Faisalabad and your stadium's name is Gaddafi.

Funny .. When Babur came we had people like Ibrahim Lodhi and even Raja Hassan Khan (mewat)... Along with muslim Chiefs of Gakhars,Janjuas supporting/allied him in the Potohar region .. Meanwhile Pashtuns resisted ..(Ibrahim Lodhi allied with Rana Sangha) along with Raja Hassan Khan of Mewat whom Babyr hated for allying with Hibdus pagans!

You ppl are a bunch of clowns with distorted history...


"Oh he killed n converted Pakistanis n didn't rape us indians and ruled from Delhi after victory of Panipat "...he became soft there right ?:lol:
Who told you that he didn't do that to Indians? Raping, pillaging and forcefully converting is a Muslim pasttime. Just like your Khalifa Baghdadi is doing today, Mughals did it back then.

As for the distorted history, right we have the lifetime membership of failed states index. Tiny country of Peru publishes more books than Pakistan.

And india is a day younger than Pakistan... 15 AUG 1947!
True, rest of the world believes it too. :pound:
 

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Lmao.. Nobody considers hinsf arab or Turk.. We are what we are but we are definetly not from up or Maharashtra ..

We are an ethnically diverse country,. N owners of IVC,Gandhara?Mehrgarh?Harrapa etx not some troll from bihar or madhyapradesh..

Deal with it!
50% of ur muhajirs came from Bihar and UP. So deal with it
 

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