Pakistan wants China to build naval base

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Pakistan says wants China to build naval base

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan said on Saturday it wanted China to build it a naval base, in the latest sign of moves to strengthen ties with Beijing as relations with Washington falter.

The announcement from Pakistan's defence minister came a day after Pakistan's Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani returned from a four-day visit to China, Islamabad's biggest arms supplier.

"We would be ... grateful to the Chinese government if a naval base is ... constructed at the site of Gwadar for Pakistan," defence minister Ahmad Mukhtar said is a statement, referring to a deep-water port in Pakistan's southwest.

The statement did not say whether Pakistan had asked China to build the base at the port in Baluchistan province.

Islamabad is trying to deepen ties with Beijing as relations with the United States have come under strain following the killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan this month.

Many in Washington have called for a review of billions of dollars of US aid to Pakistan after discovering bin Laden had been hiding for years in a Pakistani garrison town.

China invested $200 million in the first phase of the construction of the port, which was inaugurated in 2007.

The development, 70 km (45 miles) east of the Iranian border and on the doorstep of Gulf shipping lanes, was designed to handle transhipment traffic for the Gulf.

Mukhtar said the Chinese government had agreed to take operational control of Gwadar port once a contract with Singapore's PSA International Ltd [PSAIN.UL] expired in around 35 years' time.

During Gilani's visit, Mukhtar said China had agreed to speed up the delivery of 50 multi-role combat JF-17 "Thunder" aircraft, each worth up to $25 million.

The close ties between China and Pakistan reflect long-standing shared wariness of their common neighbour India and a desire to hedge against US influence across the region.

Pakistan says wants China to build naval base - The Times of India
 
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Good move by Pakistan and a benefit to India 3 ways:

1)It will guarantee USA stays in Afghanistan and possibly builds up afghanistan against pakistan.
2)USA will need better relations with India more than ever especially with Iranian chabahar port and Indian ports becoming more vital to neutralize the Chinese.
3)Baluchistan liberation may become a reality with Western nation support

this is also possibly positive for Iran if it take pressure of their nuclear program and improve relations with the west??
 

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It's Statements like these that will hasten Pakistan's decline.

A naval base at Gwadar or Pasni will be disastrous for us. And it will be, for the West which has always wanted control over the Straits of Hormuz.

Let's not forget that Gwadar was an Omani territory 'til 1958. And the Omanis must be ruing the day they decided to transfer Gwadar to Pakistan.

Gwadar must not be allowed to happen. If the Pakistani city is connected to the Karakoram highway, or plans to connect it to Karachi come to fruition, we will be ruing the day we did not take sufficient action.
 
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It's Statements like these that will hasten Pakistan's decline.

A naval base at Gwadar or Pasni will be disastrous for us. And it will be, for the West which has always wanted control over the Straits of Hormuz.

Let's not forget that Gwadar was an Omani territory 'til 1958. And the Omanis must be ruing the day they decided to transfer Gwadar to Pakistan.

Gwadar must not be allowed to happen. If the Pakistani city is connected to the Karakoram highway, or plans to connect it to Karachi come to fruition, we will be ruing the day we did not take sufficient action.

Do you think Chinese are going to invest 10-30 billion dollars for this pakistani wet dream?? They spent 200 million and were ready to call it quits.
 
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India in the middle of 64 million barrels a day of oil trade or 75% of world oil trade.
 

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Do you think Chinese are going to invest 10-30 billion dollars for this pakistani wet dream?? They spent 200 million and were ready to call it quits.
I think they might, if they were going to get a permanent strategic naval base out of it. They certainly have the money to throw around; and their previous frustrations, if I have it correct, at the Gwadar's pace of completion were borne out of the Singapore port authority's mismanagement of the complex (and the Pakistani govt's continued complicity in corruption). They wouldn't let a strategic naval base be owned or operated by another country, though. Which is where the problem lies.

We have to make sure they don't even begin surveying the ground for such a complex.
 
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I think they might, if they were going to get a permanent strategic naval base out of it. They certainly have the money to throw around; and their previous frustrations, if I have it correct, at the Gwadar's pace of completion were borne out of the Singapore port authority's mismanagement of the complex (and the Pakistani govt's continued complicity in corruption). They wouldn't let a strategic naval base be owned or operated by another country, though. Which is where the problem lies.

We have to make sure they don't even begin surveying the ground for such a complex.
USA will not let this happen. They will send Pakistan back to the stone age before this happens .
 

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ISLAMABAD: Pakistan said on Saturday it wanted China to build it a naval base, in the latest sign of moves to strengthen ties with Beijing as relations with Washington falter.

The announcement from Pakistan's defence minister came a day after Pakistan's Prime Minister Yusuf Raza Gilani returned from a four-day visit to China, Islamabad's biggest arms supplier.

"We would be grateful to the Chinese government if a naval base is constructed at the site of Gwadar for Pakistan," defence minister Ahmad Mukhtar said is a statement, referring to a deep-water port in Pakistan's southwest.

The statement did not say whether Pakistan had asked China to build the base at the port in Baluchistan province.

Islamabad is trying to deepen ties with Beijing as relations with the United States have come under strain following the killing of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan this month.

Many in Washington have called for a review of billions of dollars of US aid to Pakistan after discovering bin Laden had been hiding for years in a Pakistani garrison town.

China invested $200 million in the first phase of the construction of the port, which was inaugurated in 2007.

The development, 70 km (45 miles) east of the Iranian border and on the doorstep of Gulf shipping lanes, was designed to handle transhipment traffic for the Gulf.

Mukhtar said the Chinese government had agreed to take operational control of Gwadar port once a contract with Singapore's PSA International Ltd [PSAIN.UL] expired in around 35 years' time.

During Gilani's visit, Mukhtar said China had agreed to speed up the delivery of 50 multi-role combat JF-17 "Thunder" aircraft, each worth up to $25 million.

The close ties between China and Pakistan reflect long-standing shared wariness of their common neighbour India and a desire to hedge against US influence across the region.

Pakistan says wants China to build naval base - The Times of India
 

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Tom pak govt will say "chinese wants to marry our women".....:becky::becky::becky::confused::confused::tsk::mad2:
 

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Pakistan said on Saturday it wanted China to build it a naval base, in the latest sign of moves to strengthen ties with Beijing as relations with Washington falter.

The close ties between China and Pakistan reflect long-standing shared wariness of their common neighbour India and a desire to hedge against US influence across the region.
Sounds good to me. :p
 

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Sounds like a business deal , why should we jump up and down with every pak-china move.

Its good because many business ventures can be expected , as pakistan lacks the money and capability to do themselves and going by their reputation no other world power will help them much.
 

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We would be grateful if china builds a naval base??
Begging to make a naval base? They are bending over which ever way possible. Why don't they just say make Pakistan Chinas new province
 

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Somewhat related, the Balochs are not happy

Raisani rejects Pak-China Gawadar Port deal


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QUETTA: The Provincial Chief Minister, Nawab Muhammad Aslam Raisani, has rejected the Pakistan-China deal on Gawadar Port saying that he was not consulted, thus he was dissatisfied with the deal.

The federal defence minister had disclosed that the Chinese government had agreed to a request from Pakistan to take over Gawadar Port Operation once the tenure of Singapore Port Authority expired. He also disclosed that the Pakistan government had also requested China to build a naval base in Gawadar. Talking to journalists on Saturday night, Nawab Aslam Raisani said that his government was not consulted and with such decisions, the sense of deprivation would increase among the people of Balochistan.
He recalled the decision of the federal cabinet nominating the chief minister (Raisani) as chairman of the Gawadar Port Authority and a notification had been issued in this regard.


He said he had been demanding, from day one, to end the operations of the Singapore Port Authority and the provincial government should be allowed to operate the port. He said that the government is competent and capable to operate the Gawadar Port. The chief minister said that he had talked to President Asif Ali Zardari and Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani on several occasions and now he would talk to the federal government on the issue. He said that the sense of deprivation was very sharp among the people of Balochistan. He said the government announced the Aghaz-e-Haqooq-e-Balochistan Package but it was not implemented to this date and not to mention the NFC Award and the 18th Constitutional Amendment.
Sharply attacking the federal policies, the chief minister said that the additional financial burden of the federal ministries had been shifted to the federating units which, he termed "totally unfair and unjust". "On one hand, the federal government is making promises to end the sense of deprivation and on the other 85 percent development schemes of Balochistan are being slashed," Raisani told newsmen.
 

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US in the air, NATO in the ground, now Chinese in waters.. Pakistan is now a big outsourcing agent. LOL
 

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And what will be commissioned there, fishing boats. lolz or the crafts for exporting or deploying terrorists around the globe.
 

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Islamabad is now shyt scared of unkil. With Obama stating that another Neptune Star mission crew is ready, Pak has no one in the entire universe except China to run for help.

Why don't they just ask for China to take over itself as another chinese state?

or maybe that's the Grand American Plan :D

Will China fall for it will be interesting to see.
 

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hell instead of asking china pakistan would had done great service to its own private industry by asking to develop it domestically.
By the way how many of pakistan`s militrary base are leashed to other nation. lastly i had heared that one pak airforce base is leashed to UAE or some other gulf country . is it true
 

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It's Statements like these that will hasten Pakistan's decline.

A naval base at Gwadar or Pasni will be disastrous for us. And it will be, for the West which has always wanted control over the Straits of Hormuz.

Let's not forget that Gwadar was an Omani territory 'til 1958. And the Omanis must be ruing the day they decided to transfer Gwadar to Pakistan.

Gwadar must not be allowed to happen. If the Pakistani city is connected to the Karakoram highway, or plans to connect it to Karachi come to fruition, we will be ruing the day we did not take sufficient action.
In the event of war IN can blockade both karachi and Gwadar don't worry. There are lot of ports around the vicinity which are lot more busier than Gwadar.
 

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Good move by Pakistan and a benefit to India 3 ways:

1)It will guarantee USA stays in Afghanistan and possibly builds up afghanistan against pakistan.
2)USA will need better relations with India more than ever especially with Iranian chabahar port and Indian ports becoming more vital to neutralize the Chinese.
3)Baluchistan liberation may become a reality with Western nation support

this is also possibly positive for Iran if it take pressure of their nuclear program and improve relations with the west??
Actually, LF, I see it the other way round, there's a possibility than Iranians also tie up with the Chinese for some help or other in their military infrastructure, they already have good ties with China and the Chinese have made quite some investment in the energy sector in Iran and Iran isn't exactly friendly with India as such, though they hate the Pakistanis more, but they have no issues with the Chinese, and they can also invite them for use of their naval facilities by the Chinese. So, it can be a nightmare for the West, twin Chinese naval presence in Iran and Pakistan !
 

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