Pakistan waging 'war' on Line of Control .

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It has been very much prevalent there for a long time but it then converts the line of control into a virtual nightmare when both sides have to occupy posts sometimes as near / close to 50 meters from each other. Movement, logistics and routine becoming a hell for both sides.
The civilians populate and till their land right upto zero lines. Snipers would create a No Man's land of miles astride the LoC. Pakistani soldiers and infiltrating terrorists disguise and dress as civilians. Now, how does one distinguish between a soldier and a civilian ?? That is why Indian Army have to kill the terrorists only when they cross the LoC.

When one is required to hold nearly 750 Km of LoC frontage one side can not be dominating the other all over. Posts on LoC is required to hold nearest ground even if non tactical rather than dominating ground only.
Under such peculiar conditions sniper wars can be very devastating to both the sides, particularly for civilian population.
Moreover, India is in favour of a cold LoC rather than hot LoC so that it could check infiltration more effectively trough anti infiltration grid which is quite in open without consideration for domination or protection from directional fire.
Escalations on LoC is another reasons for Pak to make excuses to the Amirkhans that they need more of their guns, F-16s and greenbacks.
So No snipers there.
Snipping even during wars would be difficult due to Indian Army policy of not harming the civilians deliberately.
Indian Army considers civilians on the other side of LoC as their own but Pakistani Army does not. Snipping leads to Civilian losses.
Well, I have learned something here I was not aware of.
 

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Despite 40 billion dollars defense budget. Either we don't have enough bullets or balls to fire on pakis.:tsk::tsk::mad::mad::mad:
Following your logic, Why not nuc them? A few are enough. You do not need thousand bullets nor 40 billion dollars, I presume !
 

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Reply with an airstrike. Seriously no fanboy stuff. Escalate it.
We have been holding the LoC for last 65 years and firing at each other with smallest of rifles and sometimes with bigger guns.

Can you give an example where two countries had 65 years long airwarfare bombing at each other !!
Oh only fanatics in Europe could do that !!
 

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We have been holding the LoC for last 65 years and firing at each other with smallest of rifles and sometimes with bigger guns.

Can you give an example where two countries had 65 years long airwarfare bombing at each other !!
Oh only fanatics in Europe could do that !!
No I am calling for an escalation. Enough of their non sense. Push them and test the limit. If they snap and go all out, so be it. In fact great for us.

Actually good that they are violating the ceasefire. It will tell those idiots looking for peace and legacy something.
 

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One does not snipe at 50 - 100 meters and snipping is not only meant to kill.... Soldiers are not there on LoC only to kill any Dog that appears on the other side of LoC.
Actually i dont want IA to retaliate, Pakis want to divert the world attention and to open their begging bowl again. But the death of Indian soldier can not be forgotten so kill 1 Paki soldier for each Indian soldier through sniper and then sit back ;)
 

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Actually i dont want IA to retaliate, Pakis want to divert the world attention and to open their begging bowl again. But the death of Indian soldier can not be forgotten so kill 1 Paki soldier for each Indian soldier through sniper and then sit back ;)
Cost of one life of an Indian soldier is not equal to that of a Paki.
 

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we should return the fevour to pakis.
they are testing our patiance.
we should show them what is the outcome of playing with fire.
 

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No I am calling for an escalation. Enough of their non sense. Push them and test the limit. If they snap and go all out, so be it. In fact great for us.

Actually good that they are violating the ceasefire. It will tell those idiots looking for peace and legacy something.
acepted im of same veiw we cant lose or peoples just to prove we r peace loving or any disgusting theories bcoz the result will b a dead body back in our country an orphan family.
 

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the question is why they do so?
to let miltants sneak in Indian Kashmir?
to incite tension along LoC to disrupt peace process
to take out frustration of their own on Indian army( failing nation fuse their 16 bit processors)

may be its possible they fire at their will but instead of enforcing discipline in the lower rank soldiers their officers pat their backs for killing an indian or two. its known that it happens in PN whenever their naval asset shows dangerous maneuvers at high sea against indian navy ships
 

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It has been very much prevalent there for a long time but it then converts the line of control into a virtual nightmare when both sides have to occupy posts sometimes as near / close to 50 meters from each other. Movement, logistics and routine becoming a hell for both sides.
The civilians populate and till their land right upto zero lines. Snipers would create a No Man's land of miles astride the LoC. Pakistani soldiers and infiltrating terrorists disguise and dress as civilians. Now, how does one distinguish between a soldier and a civilian ?? That is why Indian Army have to kill the terrorists only when they cross the LoC.

When one is required to hold nearly 750 Km of LoC frontage one side can not be dominating the other all over. Posts on LoC is required to hold nearest ground even if non tactical rather than dominating ground only.
Under such peculiar conditions sniper wars can be very devastating to both the sides, particularly for civilian population.
Moreover, India is in favour of a cold LoC rather than hot LoC so that it could check infiltration more effectively trough anti infiltration grid which is quite in open without consideration for domination or protection from directional fire.
Escalations on LoC is another reasons for Pak to make excuses to the Amirkhans that they need more of their guns, F-16s and greenbacks.
So No snipers there.
Snipping even during wars would be difficult due to Indian Army policy of not harming the civilians deliberately.
Indian Army considers civilians on the other side of LoC as their own but Pakistani Army does not. Snipping leads to Civilian losses.
that was good info you shared with us
basically the IA is careful with the civilians on BOTH sides

whether or not it was deliberately intended to do so (?) - but is it paying dividends in the form of civilians on the other side showing some form of payback to the IA ?
 

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Cost of one life of an Indian soldier is not equal to that of a Paki.
If we really want to minimize our costs, then we should find a non-military solution to our problems with Pakistan.
 

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We have been holding the LoC for last 65 years and firing at each other with smallest of rifles and sometimes with bigger guns.

Can you give an example where two countries had 65 years long airwarfare bombing at each other !!
Oh only fanatics in Europe could do that !!
Mr. Bhadra, something have to be change. perticularly when your enemy is mindless beast.
Take that vidhwanskak 20mm round and shoot to kill the paki (not to distroy their equipments).
 

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Actually i dont want IA to retaliate, Pakis want to divert the world attention and to open their begging bowl again. But the death of Indian soldier can not be forgotten so kill 1 Paki soldier for each Indian soldier through sniper and then sit back ;)
wrong my friend. kill more then 10 paki for every bullet fire at india wounded and kill more then 25 for every indian killed.
 

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If we really want to minimize our costs, then we should find a non-military solution to our problems with Pakistan.
man for how many years we are trying to find non-military solution for our problem with paki.
every time we propose peace they fire bullet. it now 65 years.
Please stop this peace solution drama. Take some lessons from friend like US, Israel and Russia. Bullets should responded by bullet and for Pakistan our response should be, one 155mm artillery for every bullet fired by paki.
 

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This is never ending war. Indians must to fool themselves and sit Ideal by few idiotic flag meetings and assurances of Pakistani rangers/PA.

We were better before this ceasefire on IB & LOC nonsense. Irrespective on any claim by Pakistani propagandists on different forums about their professional army and other bluffs one thing is very clear; its India who is no receiving end defending its borders from infiltrating bastards who otherwise says their nation is far more better than poor India.

adding: NATO military think tanks were not fools who taught lesson to notorious Pakistani army at Salala border check post near Afghanistan.
 
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No matter how one wants to look at it, we will have to escalate the situation on all fronts. If they do it J & K than move the forces on Punjab and Gujrat borders and fire back with ten times the fire power. Time to sit back and play the games is over. Let us gather some politicians and embed them with soldiers so that they can not only see the situation but ask them to fire back at Pakistanis as well. Than watch how fast Con-Gress walahs wil wake up.

At this point they should cancel any or all diplomatic talks, people should protest and ask for cancellation of PM's visit to Pakistan as well.
 

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man for how many years we are trying to find non-military solution for our problem with paki.
every time we propose peace they fire bullet. it now 65 years.
Please stop this peace solution drama. Take some lessons from friend like US, Israel and Russia. Bullets should responded by bullet and for Pakistan our response should be, one 155mm artillery for every bullet fired by paki.
The countries you mentioned are all first-world superpowers. India is not.
 

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