Pakistan - suicide attack outside Peshawar church

[Bilal]

Who do you guys think is a bigger threat to india nawaz or imran?

 

[Ray]

Who do you guys think is a bigger threat to india nawaz or imran?

Both are hostage of the fundamentals.

 

[bennedose]

Who do you guys think is a bigger threat to india nawaz or imran?

Neither of them. Unless they toe the line set for them both will have their testimonials ripped out by Islamic groups who fall into two groups
1. Less green group: - This group agree that India is the enemy and the Pakistan army needs to be supported.This group includes the Jamaat ud Dawa and the so called "Good Taliban". The Pakistan army uses US dollars and arms to fund and support these groups
2. Purer green group ("Bad taliban", TTP) : India, US, Israel are all enemies. The Pakistani army, who attacked and killed women in the Lal Masjid fiasco and is attacking their cadre is also an enemy

The latter "pure greens" are better for India at this point in time (short to medium term)

Groups like the Lashkar e Jhangvi and other splinter groups who are specifically anti Shia are supported in Punjab by Nawaz and Shabaz Sharif

The Prophet Mohammad realised that it was necessary to make peace with the Jews when his forces were weak .This is an overused tactic by Pakistanis. General Musharaf who thought he could be like the Prophet made peace with America a few days after 9-11 (in October 2001) and went against the Taliban

Nawaz Sharif is the latest self styled Prophet of Islam making temporary peace with the enemy. He is making peace with India while he does not even let off a fart in protest against the activities of the Jammat ud Dawa.

The "Prophet Mohammad did this or did that" is an argument that appeals to Pakistanis because you can be killed if you oppose it. If prophet Mohammad make temporary peace with Jews then Musharraf can make temporary peace with America and Sharif can make temporary peace with India. That is not a problem as long as internal anti Shia and anti India groups in Pakistan, and the Pakistani army are untouched. Imran Khan is a toothless pipsqueak whose penis has done more powerful work than his politics. Mentioned only to be dismissed with a hack thoo as an element important to the subcontinent

The only big change in Pakistan is that the "secular, America pasand (we love Uncle Sam and his dollahs) factions" of the Pakistan armed forces have become weaker internally as there is more support for Islamic groups - especially in the less well funded sections of the Pakistani armed forces like the Air Force and navy.

 

[hit&run]

How dare Kala Chura Christian protesting on streets of Islamic Pakistan.

No one left in family to look after these Girls, good target of mullahs on conversion drive.

Pakistani Muslims at their best for doing all this.

Santa Clause bag not needed in Pakistan.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

RIP all those innocent souls who lost their lives Rights organizations say that religious minorities face increasing legal and cultural discrimination in Pakistan. Forced conversions and murders of Christians, Hindus and other minority groups are on the rise. In Pakistan anti-Christian prejudices run deep, with Christians largely confined to low-paying jobs. Some Muslims refuse to eat food cooked by Christians, considering it unclean

What will be interesting is what will happen when pakistan will fall into civil war... and nuclear weapons will end up in the hands of mIdiots and then India will have to nuke Pakistan Or will China take over Pakistan.

 

[SLASH]

What did the Christians in Pakistan do to deserve this? Was it a provoked attack?

 

[Daredevil]

What did the Christians in Pakistan do to deserve this? Was it a provoked attack?

For being a minority & a Kafir.

 

[Ray]

Neither of them. Unless they toe the line set for them both will have their testimonials ripped out by Islamic groups who fall into two groups
1. Less green group: - This group agree that India is the enemy and the Pakistan army needs to be supported.This group includes the Jamaat ud Dawa and the so called "Good Taliban". The Pakistan army uses US dollars and arms to fund and support these groups
2. Purer green group ("Bad taliban", TTP) : India, US, Israel are all enemies. The Pakistani army, who attacked and killed women in the Lal Masjid fiasco and is attacking their cadre is also an enemy

The latter "pure greens" are better for India at this point in time (short to medium term)

Groups like the Lashkar e Jhangvi and other splinter groups who are specifically anti Shia are supported in Punjab by Nawaz and Shabaz Sharif

The Prophet Mohammad realised that it was necessary to make peace with the Jews when his forces were weak .This is an overused tactic by Pakistanis. General Musharaf who thought he could be like the Prophet made peace with America a few days after 9-11 (in October 2001) and went against the Taliban

Nawaz Sharif is the latest self styled Prophet of Islam making temporary peace with the enemy. He is making peace with India while he does not even let off a fart in protest against the activities of the Jammat ud Dawa.

The "Prophet Mohammad did this or did that" is an argument that appeals to Pakistanis because you can be killed if you oppose it. If prophet Mohammad make temporary peace with Jews then Musharraf can make temporary peace with America and Sharif can make temporary peace with India. That is not a problem as long as internal anti Shia and anti India groups in Pakistan, and the Pakistani army are untouched. Imran Khan is a toothless pipsqueak whose penis has done more powerful work than his politics. Mentioned only to be dismissed with a hack thoo as an element important to the subcontinent

The only big change in Pakistan is that the "secular, America pasand (we love Uncle Sam and his dollahs) factions" of the Pakistan armed forces have become weaker internally as there is more support for Islamic groups - especially in the less well funded sections of the Pakistani armed forces like the Air Force and navy.

 

[bennedose]

Santa Clause bag not needed in Pakistan.

That is a truly heart rending photograph. That bag probably belongs to the missing child of the couple. I used to get angry at such photos - but after seeing so many in India, all sponsored by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, I have become heartless in a manner of speaking - but somewhere deep inside I want to see the violent bringers of death from Pakistan suffer as their country slowly sinks into chaos.

When I was much younger I was unable to understand the significance of the statement that "Nero fiddled while Rome burned". But statements I hear from Pakistanis that all is well in their country and that these horrific things are happening everywhere is the surest sign of people fiddling while their county burns. That makes me glad. Pakistan is a problem country and needs to be encouraged to tear itself apart.

 

[jmj_overlord]

give them time and after some years they'll bring down their country themselves. Just look at the condition of the country...day by day attacks....hundreds of innocents be it christians or muslims die each and every day...

 

[angeldude13]

at this rate muslims will be hated by every religious community very soon.

first they attacked hindus and jews,then buddhist and now christians.

Educated muslims should do something or otherwise people will start to reject the muslim populace from there neighborhood and this will result in riots like muzaffar nagar but this time venue will be europe,american continents and some other continents.

 

[bennedose]

at this rate muslims will be hated by every religious community very soon.

first they attacked hindus and jews,then buddhist and now christians.

Educated muslims should do something or otherwise people will start to reject the muslim populace from there neighborhood and this will result in riots like muzaffar nagar but this time venue will be europe,american continents and some other continents.

This is the only way Islamists and their apologists can see reform - that is by the world forcing reform on outdated attitudes. Just ten years ago we used to hear spokespersons from Pakistan, the middle east or even Malaysia speak up and accuse the world of Islamophobia, asserting that Islam is a religion of peace and that Muslims don't kill Muslims, or that Muslims do not kill innocent people or women and children. These statements were promptly reported in the media.

Pakistan has singlehandedly taken Islam and dragged it through mud and dirt and we have now reached a stage where no one in the world actually comes up with those claims. But Islamic society cannot be cleaned from the inside. It isn't going to happen. Islamic fundamentalists always threaten and subjugate and kill Muslims first and once Muslims are made to remain silent spectators they take on others. The non Muslim world has to hold a mirror to the saner elements in Islamic nations while ruthlessly giving murderous Islamic fundamentalists the very treatment that they say they do not fear - death. If they say they welcome death, they must receive exactly what they want.

 

[dhananjay1]

Just curious. In what way do you think that the Pakistani army that has attacked India since 1947 is more gentle. kind, considerate, less dangerous, less well armed and more chivalrous and less jihad minded than the "jihad machinery" that is going to roll towards India?

Let them roll in. We will rip them a new one. India is prepared. If the Taliban takes over Pakistan as I hope they will, they will not receive updates, maintenance and spares for F-16s, Orions, AMRAAMs, WLRs and NVGs from the US.

It is Pakistani "apres moi le deluge" propagandu to call the Taliban more deadly that anyone else. That is nonsense. The sucker gringo Americans pay Pakis well when they hear this. The Pakistan army is a far more dangerous and well trained foe than the Taliban. If we can show the Pakhanastan army the door we can extend the same courtesy to the Talibunnies.

By 'Jihadi machinery rolling in the direction of India' I don't mean they are going to take over Delhi, but local disturbance. It's not about Pakistani army being more dangerous than Taliban or vice versa. It's about the way Pakistan could use Afghan Jihadis against India in Kashmir. Everyone knows that Paki army stands no chance against Indian army in an open all out battle. That's why they have been using terrorists against India ever since the '80s. India and Pakistan don't exist in a vacuum, the major powers like US, China are sure to interfere in the matter of war between two countries. Indians should plan a military and diplomatic response in case of a major terrorist infiltration supported by Paki army in Kashmir. The Indian army is competent, but the politicians leave much to be desired.

 

[bennedose]

Indians should plan a military and diplomatic response in case of a major terrorist infiltration supported by Paki army in Kashmir. The Indian army is competent, but the politicians leave much to be desired.

That is what they did in 1965

That is what they have been doing since 1980.

That is what they attempted to escalate in 1999

That is what they have been doing in the last few weeks

India is prepared. Why do you believe that the Taliban will be any worse than Harkat ul Mujahideen or Lashkar e Toiba - all of which have had Pakistan army comm and logistics support and Islamic indoctrination to torture and behead. These people are as bad as any Taliban and we have handled them A terrorist, whether he is called Taliban or Pakistan army will die just as surely in a hail of gunfire and Indian RPGs.

 

[jmj_overlord]

seems like the paki soldiers are total wack jobs...

 

[hit&run]

That is a truly heart rending photograph. That bag probably belongs to the missing child of the couple. I used to get angry at such photos - but after seeing so many in India, all sponsored by the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, I have become heartless in a manner of speaking - but somewhere deep inside I want to see the violent bringers of death from Pakistan suffer as their country slowly sinks into chaos.

When I was much younger I was unable to understand the significance of the statement that "Nero fiddled while Rome burned". But statements I hear from Pakistanis that all is well in their country and that these horrific things are happening everywhere is the surest sign of people fiddling while their county burns. That makes me glad. Pakistan is a problem country and needs to be encouraged to tear itself apart.

There are still many fools in India who say stable Pakistan is good for India. They all end up with only one argument that oh ! Pakistanis will send jihadis to India if she will implode. Ironically same argument is given by Pakistanis when they are squeezed by Indians on many forums or at Indian channels.

I say,''Send those bastards in and will make sure they all rot in hell''.

 

[bennedose]

There are still many fools in India who say stable Pakistan is good for India. They all end up with only one argument that oh ! Pakistanis will send jihadis to India if she will implode. Ironically same argument is given by Pakistanis when they are squeezed by Indians on many forums or at Indian channels.

I say,''Send those bastards in and will make sure they all rot in hell''.

Well a stable Pakistan may be good for India. An unstable Pakistan is better for India. Pakistan in a complete mess is best for India.

No one in a position of authority whom I have managed to ask this question have managed to answer satisfactorily why a stable Pakistan is good for India. These people are talking through their asses and like typical Indian government officials/bureaucrats have no clue about the history and state of Pakistan and there is no Pakistan policy in India other than to say "A stable Pakistan is good for India" and "We must keep on talking even if Pakistan inserts an AK 47 up Indian backsides and twists it around"

I would like to ask:

• 
  When in the last 66 years has Pakistan been good for India?
  When in the last 66 years has Pakistan been stable? Exactly which period has it been stable and for how long?

It is obvious that Pakistan has never been stable or good for India. So where is the proof that Pakistan can become stable and that stability will be good for India? Pakistan's was created as a sort of "anti-India" country. That is fine. Anyone can be anti anything? But why the fuk should it be India's role to try and help or stabilize Pakistan? Balls. Let them rot in their crap.

OK it means India should be well armed and keep our borders protected. But isn't that what any self respecting country needs to do?

 

[angeldude13]

seems like the paki soldiers are total wack jobs...

what do you expect from the army which raped it's own countrymen and then surrendered in masses without firing a single bullet.

this is so f@ckin shameless and depressing that if i've been a pakistani i would have committed suicide.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Pakiland has successfully reduced her Hindu population from 25% to 2% since 1947 through terror, attack, rape, looting, killing, and forced conversion of the Hindu population f.- In the year 1971 alone, the Pakistani Army killed over one million Hindus in the then East Pakistan (present day Bangladesh) now doing the same thing with christian population.Pakistanis will continue to get killed in terror attacks in Pakistan as long as the Establishment continues with its "good terrorist- bad terrorist" strategy as part of the foreign policy formulation.

Pakiland is what it is today because of the undoubted inadequacy of the Pakistani public education system, madrasahs, or religious schools, provide free education to the needy. Once enrolled, the children are supposedly brainwashed to turn them into the future foot soldiers of jihadi Islam.Pakistan is a nation which is bitter about its past, dissatisfied with the present and uncertain of the future. Convicting the dozens of terrorists released by Pakistani courts should be a greater priority for the country's judiciary. And the Pakistani media should be more focused on asking why those deemed terrorists internationally are celebrated as heroes at home.

The Muslim majority of Pakistan routinely discriminates against Pakistani Christians. But the Pakistanis are always willing to accept free food and money whenever a natural disaster (earthquake) strikes accept aid from christian countries. can talk more and the list goes on but its useless

 

[jmj_overlord]

if these guys are so religiously retarded, then why do they accept the help of US, China....the list goes on...?