Pakistan should nuke Waziristan for peace

[Pak-sarzameen]

When America nuked two Japanese cities, it put an end to the bloody war. In my personal opinion the lawless region of waziristan is becoming existential threat for pakistan. It has become hub of foreign militants, its local population has no other purpose in life but to kill and be killed. In fresh aerial strikes on north waziristan, foreign militants of uyghur, china were targeted. It is clear that waziristan is also disturbing peace of our friend china. pathans in that region were already notorious for giving shelters to criminals from all over the Pakistan before taliban episode. Now they themselves have become terrorists and are giving shelter and wives to foreign terrorists.
If waziristan is not nuked then the it would threaten the nuclear assets of pakistan. It would provide the excuse to west that pakistan is unstable country and that her nuclear assets might fall into the hands of Taliban. For the greater good, for peace , to end terrorism, Pakistan has to convert waziristan into a radiation zone. They are not only danger to pakistan but also india, talibanistan is bad news to india.

that is what Lord Curzon said about waziristan in 1901 . "Not until the military steamroller has passed over [Waziristan] from end to end will there be peace,"

Stream roller of that scale was not available in 1901 but now we have nukes. Before British , mughals and timur subdued the savage pathan tribes by building the towers of their skulls. Nothing has changed since that time, they live in medieval times and consider guns their jewelery and have destroyed the peace of karachi and rest of Pakistan. Pakistan send them to war in kashmir, they instead started raping and looting Kashmiris. . My personal desire is that pakistan should end enmity with india and should seek india's help in exterminating taliban.

 

[Srinivas_K]

Welcome to DFI !!!

I wish the relationship between India and Pakistan prosper and there is peace in this region. BTW no Nukes please.

 

[Kaalapani]

IF Pakistan allocates bigger pie to police taliban can be eliminated in 2 years.

 

[bose]

@Pak-sarzameen introduce yourself to other members... It is not easy to use nukes... perhaps only US can do that...

You need a Mustafa Kemal Atatürk to solve the problem...

anyway welcome to DFI...

 

[tarunraju]

Wow...you'd nuke your own country for peace? Why not just remove it from your country, and let the world have one less nuclear catastrophe? If you nuke it, it's not like you'll be able to peacefully grow wheat there. The place will be irradiated.

 

[Bangalorean]

Nukes? Hah. Better just give up that region. Easiest solution.

 

[Pak-sarzameen]

@Pak-sarzameen introduce yourself to other members... It is not easy to use nukes... perhaps only US can do that...

You need a Mustafa Kemal Atatürk to solve the problem...

anyway welcome to DFI...

I am Jahangir Siddiqui from Karachi, 22 year old, MSc biology student.

 

[Pak-sarzameen]

Nukes? Hah. Better just give up that region. Easiest solution.

It will still be a source of terrorism if handed over to afghanistan. Beside it will open the doors for separatist forces in the country.

 

[Pak-sarzameen]

Wow...you'd nuke your own country for peace? Why not just remove it from your country, and let the world have one less nuclear catastrophe? If you nuke it, it's not like you'll be able to peacefully grow wheat there. The place will be irradiated.

Waziristan is arid mountaineous region with small population. Doesnt matter if it is irridiated. If pakistan dont drop nukes on that region and the population thrives there, the insurgency might continue for decades. We dont have strong economy to sustain war against them for decades. Their suicide jackets and IEDs dont cost much but deployment of 130,000 soldiers in that region, supplies to them and cost of each bomb and shell would soon cripple our economy.taliban are masters of low intensity guerrella warfare, all they need is just to survive and bleed our army which is not fit to deal with this kind of warfare.
Our military establishment committed a blunder of using these tribals for wars, they have become a liability and source of global terrorism. If we dont exterminate , waziris and mehsuds etc then we are in danger of becoming a target of america.

 

[rock127]

Nukes? Hah. Better just give up that region. Easiest solution.

Greater Agfanistan should be there.

It will still be a source of terrorism if handed over to afghanistan. Beside it will open the doors for separatist forces in the country.

So now you are getting taste of your own medicine.Ironically they used to be "good terrorists" but now turned "bad terrorists".The source of terrorism is not Waziristan but Policies of Pakistan.

You need to understand nuking is not a solution to peace.If that was the case US/USSR would have got "peace" long ago with half the earth destroyed.

 

[Voldemort]

How weird! I have a better idea. Why not nuke the whole country so that the world becomes a bit safer and peaceful?

 

[Kaalapani]

How weird! I have a better idea. Why not nuke the whole country so that the world becomes a bit safer and peaceful?

 

[Glint]

It will still be a source of terrorism if handed over to afghanistan. Beside it will open the doors for separatist forces in the country.

Contained Air strikes are the only option if your army is not able to control the area fully. Nukes causes radiation and you possibly don't want that with these circumstances

Anyways, welcome to DFI, Don't act like a troll or argue with one and you would have an amazing time here.

 

[rock127]

How weird! I have a better idea. Why not nuke the whole country so that the world becomes a bit safer and peaceful?

The thread title can be "Should Pakistan be nuked since it's a headache for world peace?"

 

[rock127]

Contained Air strikes are the only option if your army is not able to control the area fully. Nukes causes radiation and you possibly don't want that with these circumstances

Anyways, welcome to DFI, Don't act like a troll or argue with one and you would have an amazing time here.

This paki(just like others) has no idea what nuking means.

To a avg paki nuke is kinda big bomb which is just dropped and thats it. They got no idea nukes comes with serious lethal radiation which lasts for decades and destroys not just material but life as well and generations of DNA can be mutated. Also this radiation can easily travel to large areas.

Now interestingly this guy is not a madarasa educated jahil since he says he is doing Msc Biology so just think of common paki! :shocked:

Pakis should be stripped of nukes.

 

[Kaalapani]

This paki(just like others) has no idea what nuking means.

To a avg paki nuke is kinda big bomb which is just dropped and thats it. They got no idea nukes comes with serious lethal radiation which lasts for decades and destroys not just material but life as well and generations of DNA can be mutated. Also this radiation can easily travel to large areas.

Now interestingly this guy is not a madarasa educated jahil since he says he is doing Msc Biology so just think of common paki! :shocked:

Pakis should be stripped of nukes.

Itni beijaati?

He is a kid tired of terrorism in his home land.(daily bombs).Understand his emotions.

 

[angeldude13]

Please call me if you are planning to raise another pathan skull pyramid.

You see I've been doing some research on skull pyramid from last few days

I love human skull pyramid

 

[rock127]

Itni beijaati?

He is a kid tired of terrorism in his home land.(daily bombs).Understand his emotions.

Nah...not beizatti... just educated the kid about the seriousness of "nuking" since pakis take nuking very lightly.

The reason behind the terrorism in Pakistan today is the wrong policies of Pakis of nurturing terrorists and the solution is leaving terrorism as a state policy to pursue ILLEGAL interests.

Interestingly Pakis in 60's were ahead of India until they started the terrorism industry.

 

[Neo]

Waziristan is arid mountaineous region with small population. Doesnt matter if it is irridiated. If pakistan dont drop nukes on that region and the population thrives there, the insurgency might continue for decades. We dont have strong economy to sustain war against them for decades. Their suicide jackets and IEDs dont cost much but deployment of 130,000 soldiers in that region, supplies to them and cost of each bomb and shell would soon cripple our economy.taliban are masters of low intensity guerrella warfare, all they need is just to survive and bleed our army which is not fit to deal with this kind of warfare.
Our military establishment committed a blunder of using these tribals for wars, they have become a liability and source of global terrorism. If we dont exterminate , waziris and mehsuds etc then we are in danger of becoming a target of america.

Nukes are no option but continued air strikes and heavy carpet bombings followed by a ground offensive will thrive them back to Afghanistan where they came from. We have armed dronea now, we need
to use them against criss border hideouts during the offensives in Waziristan. Nato/Isaf or ANA should be involved and consulted all the time.

After the clean up bring FATA direct under Islamabad and and merge it with KPK. Deport all foreigners and replace madrassas with.modern schools.

If allowed to continue under current political structure, FATA will pose a bigger threat to the country in future.

 

[Bhadra]

I am Jahangir Siddiqui from Karachi, 22 year old, MSc biology student.

Mr Jahangir Siddiqui from Karachi - warm welcome to DFI.

I am afraid the way every Pakistani talks about nukes, it has become a cultural identity or existentialist identity of Pakistan. No where in the world, including India common citizens talk of and takes shelter of "the Nukes". Those who possess nukes possess a great and ultimate destructive power which has so far been a great deterrent value. Even during the intense Cold War era, both side concluded that Nuclear war was unwinnable. American use of nuclear bombs in Japan was to announce to the world that a new power has emerged and a new weapon of destruction has emerged. They also wanted to see its destructive power. Lastly, they were very very sure of no danger of retaliation from any quarter. That was a very cheap and inexpensive end of a great war !

Whatever you wrote about Waziristan is true. That was the original Hindu tribal land. It was with very great bloodshed and difficulties that newly converted Turks and Mongols had to capture them and then converted the. However, it was 300 - 400 years before you all got converted in Punjab and Multan. Hence they are more pure Muslims than you are. They are professional mercenaries whose sole history job was plunder and plunder for booty .

If it is Islam which is the nationality of Pakistan then why is there a problem of Waziristan. After all they are purer Muslims then you.

The problem of Frontiers of Afghanistan is no modern phenomenon . Then why did Pakistan include them with themselves?? To save Lahore, of course, which was ransacked by them hundreds of times - when they were Hindus, Buddhists or Muslims !!

Why are Pakistanis afraid of them ?? Because that historical fear is ingrained in every Punjabi, Multani, Saraiki and Sindhi blood. " Jab bacha rota hai to man kahati hai chup ho ja nahin to Pathan Aa Jayega" !!

Their Lashkar Kassi can be devastating for Pakistani Punjab- and it appears to be materialising soon. So when they ransack Lahore - India will then think of saving it before they pollute our air.

Pakistan has used them everywhere - in Afghanistan, against USA, against India and against their own tribal groups. Now they do not know what to do with them. Terrorism can harm Pakistan more than India was a warning sounded to Pakistan many years ago.

It is brainchild of Pakistan Army and it will stop at nothing less than destruction of Pakistan Army !!

Friend, do you know what was the expenditure incurred by the British India to manage that frontier ?? Pakistan will go broke in managing that frontier. India only has to invest a little bit there and more than half of Pakistan Army will be shedding their blood killing the purer Muslims !!