Pakistan: Shia Mosque Suicide Blast, 7 killed yet and 17 injured

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7 killed, 17 injured as blast targets Rawalpindi Imambargah - thenews.com.pk
RAWALPINDI: An explosion near an Imambargah in Chittian Hattian, the old section of Rawalpindi on Friday evening left at least seven people dead and injured 15 others, Express News reported.

According to initial reports, the blast took place outside a house adjacent to Imambargah Rizvia in Chittian Hattian where a congregation was being held. The blast caused extensive damage to houses in the area.

Express News correspondent Fahim Akhtar said that three to four ambulances had reached the site of the blast and are working to evacuate the injured and dead to DHQ hospital. The blast site is located in a very narrow section of Raja Bazaar which prevents easy access to the site.

According to Naeem Asghar, doctors say at least 7 people have been died, and over 15 are injured. Of these, at least four were described to be in critical condition.

The nature of the blast has yet to be determined, though there are reports that a suspicious person riding on a motorbike had approached the blast site just before the explosion.

The blast site is located in Raja Bazar, a densely populated area of Rawalpindi. Lal Haveli is also located in the same vicinity.
RAWALPINDI: At least five people were killed and 17 others injured in a blast targeting an Imambargah in Chitian Hatian area of the garrison city on Friday.

Police said that a suicide attacker blew himself up after his attempt to enter the worship place was foiled.The police said the suicide bomber reached the spot at around 9:20 riding a bike. They said that the bomber parked his bike and tried to enter the Imambargah.Eyewitnesses said the explosion that took place outside the Imambargah was so intense that windowpanes of nearby buildings were shattered.

They said a Mehfil-e-Milad was being held in the Imambargah when the attack took place.The injured were taken to the District Heaquaters Hospital where some of them were in critical condition.
Blast outside Imambargah in Rawalpindi kills five people – The Express Tribune

Pakistan blast at Shia mosque kills 4

Islamabad: At least four people were killed and more than 15 injured on Friday in a bomb attack at a Shia mosque in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi, police said.

Militants targeted the mosque in densely populated Chittian Hatian areas near Committee Chowk in the garrison city of Rawalpindi.
A police official said that four people were killed and 15 injured. The identity of those killed was not known immediately.
There were reports that it was a suicide attack but it was not still confirmed. A religious congregation was going on at the time of the attack.


 

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So much for religion of tolerance..
Pakistan civilian Govt has to nuke itself if it is serious about killing all terrorists.
 

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Oh teri! everyone was busy with France's situation to have noticed this.
 

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These days nobody seems to care the events happening inside Pakistan, especially them blowing themselves up .. Its routine... :D
 
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MODS please move it to the Pakis killing pakis section.
It should be a "Pakis killing Muslims" section.

Oh teri! everyone was busy with France's situation to have noticed this.
Blasts in Pakistan is so common that no one really care anymore... it becomes a news if no blast happen for some days.
 

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Terror attack in Paris is just much more alluring for Western and consequently our media than yet another suicide attack in Pakiland. :rolleyes:

I think even Sunanda murder case is more exciting for the media.

Anyway, have these guys started blaming India yet?
 

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Pakistan is the second largest shia populated country yet this peril!
 

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Pakistan is the second largest shia populated country yet this peril!
Pakistan is also a country where Shiah Iran and Sunni/Wahabi KSA are fighting a proxy war supporting certain terrorist groups. Local mullahs are taking advantage of this proxy war for personal gains. So this communal violence is artificial, controlled by certain powers and our failed and incompetent political system is using this devide to bank votes. In the meantime a sunni muslim common man will have no problem drinking water from a shiah sabeel or visit a lungar in the holy month of Muharram to eat haleem or kheer and the Shiah commom man will eat from a sunni lungar on Eid Milad -ul-Nabih.

The Shiah-Sunni devide therefor is a political problem rathar than a social issue.
 

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Pakistan is also a country where Shiah Iran and Sunni/Wahabi KSA are fighting a proxy war supporting certain terrorist groups. Local mullahs are taking advantage of this proxy war for personal gains. So this communal violence is artificial, controlled by certain powers and our failed and incompetent political system is using this devide to bank votes. In the meantime a sunni muslim common man will have no problem drinking water from a shiah sabeel or visit a lungar in the holy month of Muharram to eat haleem or kheer and the Shiah commom man will eat from a sunni lungar on Eid Milad -ul-Nabih.

The Shiah-Sunni devide therefor is a political problem rathar than a social issue.
That doesn't seem to be the case when one looks at internet comments by random Pakis.
 

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That doesn't seem to be the case when one looks at internet comments by random Pakis.
Don't be mislead by the media, certainly not the internet. You want to understand the dynamics of a certain problem, then look for both pro and cons and see how the communities, in this case sunni and shiah have coexisted for more than a millenium. What is binding the majorty together versus the very small minority which is causing communal violence.
 

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Don't be mislead by the media, certainly not the internet. You want to understand the dynamics of a certain problem, then look for both pro and cons and see how the communities, in this case sunni and shiah have coexisted for more than a millenium. What is binding the majorty together versus the very small minority which is causing communal violence.
Coexistence for millennia is fine. The 21st century is not the same as all the hundreds of years preceding it. The situation is very different now, thanks to trans-national Islamism and militant Wahhabism being exported from Saudi Arabia.

As recently as 20 years back, Indian Muslims living in some remote corner of UP or Bihar never knew about international Islamic issues like Chechnya, Palestine, etc. and they didn't even care. They had occasional fights and disputes with Hindus, but that was it - their worldview was limited to that.

Today, we see Muslims in Tamilnadu flying the ISIS flag, Muslims from Mumbai going to fight alongside ISIS, protests against some American pastor who burnt the Quran, violent protests against the persecution of Rohangiyas in Burma, awards announced for the killers of European cartoonists, etc. etc. All the incidents I have mentioned here, have taken place in the last 1 year. Hell, in Madhya Pradesh in India, last week there was a massive Shia-Sunni clash, with several injured. It took the police 1 day to bring the situation under control.

This was never the case before. Violent Wahhabism and trans-national Islamism are causing a lot of problems in societies worldwide. It doesn't matter if they coexisted for millennia or even since the dawn of the universe. Today things are different.
 

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. What is binding the majorty together versus the very small minority which is causing communal violence.
It hurts aint it?
This is what happened in France..A small minority caused violence for the French way of life.
Its also communal violence..between native French and Fanatics.
 

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Coexistence for millennia is fine. The 21st century is not the same as all the hundreds of years preceding it. The situation is very different now, thanks to trans-national Islamism and militant Wahhabism being exported from Saudi Arabia.

As recently as 20 years back, Indian Muslims living in some remote corner of UP or Bihar never knew about international Islamic issues like Chechnya, Palestine, etc. and they didn't even care. They had occasional fights and disputes with Hindus, but that was it - their worldview was limited to that.

Today, we see Muslims in Tamilnadu flying the ISIS flag, Muslims from Mumbai going to fight alongside ISIS, protests against some American pastor who burnt the Quran, violent protests against the persecution of Rohangiyas in Burma, awards announced for the killers of European cartoonists, etc. etc. All the incidents I have mentioned here, have taken place in the last 1 year. Hell, in Madhya Pradesh in India, last week there was a massive Shia-Sunni clash, with several injured. It took the police 1 day to bring the situation under control.

This was never the case before. Violent Wahhabism and trans-national Islamism are causing a lot of problems in societies worldwide. It doesn't matter if they coexisted for millennia or even since the dawn of the universe. Today things are different.
Your analysis is partly true but timeframe is not. Shia-Sunni devide was not a global problem till the first Gulf War broke out in1991 and international camps were drawn in Southern Iraq where both Iran and KSA started a proxy war. Internet became a mass communication media around the same time and yellow and sensational journalism took over. Until then the shia-sunni riots were restricted to the holy month of Muharram and that was it. Peace throught the year.

Situation in the Sub Continent deteriorated after the US led WoT and the invasion of Afghanistan in 2002 which resulted in radicalisation of the population in the region. Armed militancy, terrorist attacks and riots became a new phenomena and spread rapidly from the lawless FATA to the rest of the Sub Continent due to failed pilicies and negligence. The media got politicalised and and the shia-sunni camps were drawn all over the country. And for a major part, the mass communcation and yellow/sensational jounalism is reponsible for the communal problems India is experiencing. India is now where Pakistan was twelve years ago and things are to get a lot worse if your govt fails to curb the trend of politicising the devide.

Politics apart, the common shia-sunnis continue to coexist in the Sub Continent; there is more harmony than devide on personal level between the two groups. But as organised and represented communities, they clash because of the controlled environment I referred to earlier.
And again, the sensational media is only making tgings worse.

About your comments on India, Tamil Nadu and ISIS:
Many people in India hate Pakistan as they see her as a source of terror in the country. Emotions run high evertime there's an incident. Same is the case with the approx. 180 Million muslims in India, only the source and enemy is not Pakistan but the militancy in the ME. KSA/Iran backed islamist groups are recruiting people thru electronic media in growing numbers.

What a non-muslim does not understand is the sense of this false brotherhood between the muslims. We may fight with eachother all the time but we stand united against the socalled infidels or kafirs. This is the reason why ISIS is getting popularity in India. Your media is pro Israel but the common.man has access to international media and they are able to.make their own choices. But a small.part falls prey to the recruiters and joins the organisation.
 

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Don't be mislead by the media, certainly not the internet. You want to understand the dynamics of a certain problem, then look for both pro and cons and see how the communities, in this case sunni and shiah have coexisted for more than a millenium. What is binding the majorty together versus the very small minority which is causing communal violence.
While Sunni and Shi'a share a common reverence for the Qur'an, they were only briefly united as a one political-religious entity, during the reigns of the first caliphs Abu Bakr and 'Umar.

Coexistence? It is resorting to comforting platitudes rather than admitting that there was and is a irreconcilable problem. In that coexistence there has been strife, insecurity and the constant struggle for ascendancy as the sole inheritors of Islam.

The dynamics is simple - SUNNI –SHIA TENSIONS ARE MORE ABOUT POLITICS, POWER AND PRIVILEGE THAN THEOLOGY.

There is an inevitability and permanency about Sunni-Shia conflict. Anyone who knows anything of the Islamic sectarian conflict would not blame the media or the internet, but should look within and not carp with false platitudinous comforting words.

If indeed the Shias have coexisted with the Sunnis, it has been due to the fact that the Shias lost early in the competition both for political power and for the allegiance of the majority of Muslims; they, the Shias retreated essentially to a politically quietist position, as advised by the sixth Shia Imam, Ja'afar Sadegh.

The Shia have been made socially and economically disadvantaged in position in Sunni majority countries, or countries where Shias are a majority but the rulers are Sunni --as was the case in Iraq and now is in Bahrain -- and it has in recent decades contributed to the Shias' sense of alienation and their quest for emancipation and legitimacy. The Shia revival movement in Lebanon, which began in the 1960s, under the leadership of Ayatullah Musa Sadr, is the best example of this Shia quest for equality and recognition.

And as far as Pakistan is concerned, read MJ Akbar's Tinderbox.
 

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Divided we fall
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To understand the genesis and growth of anti-Shia extremism, the claims of both Sunni and Shia leaders must be examined. Shia-Sunni violence in this region precedes Partition but its more recent form has other beginnings. Most analysts are convinced that the present problem is a product of the Pakistan's security establishment enduring relationship with radical Sunni militancy.

The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan and the Islamic revolution in Iran in 1979 had a huge impact in Pakistan where Gen Zia's military leadership had just taken charge.

The Shia community resisted the enforcement of zakat in 1981 by General Zia's regime. Their interpretation of zakat was different and they said they had already paid it as part of the khums tax under Shia jurisprudence. Sunni jurisprudence holds a differing view which was enforced by Gen Zia's team.

In defiance, the Shia leadership under the banner of the newly formed Tehrik-i-Nifaz-i-Fiqh-i-Jafria (TNFJ) encouraged its community to come out on the streets across the country.

After the success of the Islamic Revolution in Iran, allegations of Tehran's direct support to the Shia leadership in Pakistan have persisted. The military regime eventually backed down — but the victory proved very costly to the Shia community that regarded it as a fight for fundamental rights.

But Pakistan's Sunni religious leadership believed this to be the start of a campaign to turn the country into a Shia state. As a counter campaign, they launched Safwad-i-Azam for the implementation of strict Sunni Sharia law.

The establishment of new Iranian cultural centres were seen as intelligence outposts. The Iranians were regarded as Soviet allies.

This called for a harsher response and the Anjuman-i-Sipah-i-Sahaba, later renamed Sipah-i-Sahaba (SSP) was created in Jhang in 1985 under Maulana Haq Nawaz Jhangvi — then senior vice president of the JUI. Born out of fiery apocalyptic oratory, the organisation set the tone for the future of Pakistan's minorities, especially in Punjab.

The polemics of the time became tools of the trade — words like 'Shia kafir' and 'Shiagardi' were invented as extremism gave way to militancy. For thousands of young Sunni men returning home from jihad in Afghanistan, switching their wrath from the infidel abroad to the infidel at home was easy.

Violence usually followed the visit of a firebrand SSP cleric who spoke about insults being heaped on the Prophet Muhammad's (PBUH) companions — warning the Shia community to refrain.

Soon, the Sipah-i-Mohammad was formed.

There were retaliatory attacks on extremist Sunni leaders and 1990 saw the death of Maulana Jhangvi in a bomb attack by Shia militants. Subsequently, sectarian violence skyrocketed — with tit-for-tat attacks on Shia and Sunni targets.

It also led to fissures within the SSP with several dissidents breaking away. For them the 'final solution' was to declare Pakistan a Sunni state which could only be achieved through militant means.

In 1996, Riaz Basra and Malik Ishaq formed what is now regarded as Pakistan's deadliest militant organisation, the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi (LJ). It was believed to be the militant wing of the SSP, created with the idea that the parent organisation could continue to have a political role and eventually win an assembly seat.

As its clout grew, so did its extremism and soon minorities like Ahmedis and Christians were also targeted and in case of the latter, the Shantinagar attack in 1997 materialised. Politicians and intelligence officials agree that by this time it was no longer government policy to promote the Sunni extremists in Pakistan. But in Afghanistan where a civil war was raging the relations between Pakistani Sunni militants and the Afghan Taliban prospered.

The aftermath of 9/11 was to take the Taliban-LJ relationship to new heights. Pakistan's security establishment finally woke up to the Frankenstein's monster that it had created but with sympathetic undertones. At this point, the double game cost Pakistan dearly.

Two events which exponentially increased the power of LJ were Musharraf's ban on SSP, and the 2003 closure of the Kashmir front which led to thousands of Punjabi (mostly Deobandi but also Ahle-Hadees) jihadis to descend on the tribal region.

Chased and harried across Afghanistan and Pakistan — the militants chose a new home around the tribal belt, and joined up with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan.

Thus a new sectarian breed came into being in the form of the Punjabi Taliban, now led by Asmatullah Muavia and loyal to Hakeemullah Mehsud.

Initially based in South Waziristan, the Punjabi Taliban were ousted after the military operation in 2009. In reprisal, they carried out high-profile attacks such as the one on GHQ in Rawalpindi. Sources say that particular incident was the turning point and led to a rethink by the establishment.

Security officials — who wish to remain anonymous — say this was because the GHQ stand-off was resolved mainly through negotiations by Maulana Mohammad Ahmed Ludhianvi, chief of the SSP, who convinced those inside to surrender.

Army officials dismiss these claims. They say military action broke the siege and that the Punjabi Taliban remains their number one enemy.

Both stories may hold true, says a security official. Ludhianvi's intervention, while crucial, was only limited to the GHQ attack. He appears to have little control over the Punjabi Taliban leadership, which continues to wreak havoc across Pakistan.

But it is also clear that Ahmed Ludhianvi now enjoys official protocol. Both the LJ and SSP as Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat (ASWJ) are proscribed, yet hold rallies in major cities where arms are openly displayed.

Today, it's obvious that the ASWJ and LJ are one and the same. Maulana Ludhianvi admitted in an interview to BBC that Malik Ishaq, the LJ chief was released on his guarantee and reports to him.

The spike in sectarian violence coincided with Malik Ishaq's release — following which he declared war against the Shia community perceived to be collaborating with the US.

An abysmal lack of convictions in courts has led to the release of the most hardened militants. Atta-ur-Rahman alias Naeem Bukhari, released in 2009 was among the militants responsible for the beheading of Daniel Pearl. Bukhari now runs LJ operations in Karachi and South Punjab.

In Karachi, LJ has perhaps been on the back foot as most of its activists were killed here. According to security officials, there is strong evidence of MQM activists involved in the killing of ASWJ workers, although it is not a party policy.

ASWJ leaders in Karachi have — time and again — named the MQM as the prime culprit in the attacks against them.
Divided we fall - - DAWN.COM

Here it is from the horses mouth ie Pakistan as to Pakistan's Sectarian conflict.

Let us not succumb to the platitudinous brouhaha that is being trotted out by those who are afraid to face a problem in the face and seek and hammer a solution.

Pakistan is such a country that Jinnah, their Founder, who was a Shia and the world knows that, was declared to be a Sunni and all sorts of fables and fairy tales were manufactured to prove him so!

Imagine, they could not let a dead man in peace over such a minor issue as to what is the man's sect.

This mindless stupidity is lucidly brought out by another Pakistan's reputed source.
Was Jinnah a Shia or a Sunni?

After 1947, Pakistan adopted the position of denying that the population of the country was divided between Shias and Sunnis, among others. The census that followed took account of Muslims and non-Muslims but ignored the sects: it was also an indirect pledge of the state that it would not discriminate on the basis of sect. The founder of the state, Mohammed Ali Jinnah, although himself a Twelver Shia after conversion from the Ismaili sect, was wont to describe himself in public as neither a Shia nor a Sunni. His stock answer to a query about his sect was: was Muhammad the Prophet [pbuh] a Shia or a Sunni? Yet when he died in 1948, it was necessary for his sister Miss Fatima Jinnah to declare him a Shia in order to inherit his property as per Jinnah's will. (Sunni law partially rejects the will while Shia law does not.) She filed an affidavit, jointly signed with the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Liaquat Ali Khan, at the Sindh High Court, describing Jinnah as 'Shia Khoja Mohamedan' and praying that his will may be disposed of under Shia inheritance law. The court accepted the petition. But on 6 February 1968, after Miss Jinnah's demise the previous year, her sister Shirin Bai, moved an application at the High Court claiming Miss Jinnah's property under the Shia inheritance law on the ground that the deceased was a Shia.


Given the prestige of Miss Jinnah, she was allowed to dispose of all the property of her brother (as a Sunni she would have title to only one-half) and continued to do so till her death. After her death her sister Shirin Bai arrived in Karachi from Bombay, converted from Ismailism to Twelver Shiism, and laid claim to Jinnah's property. It is at this point that the rest of Jinnah's clan, still following the Ismaili faith, decided to challenge the authenticity of Jinnah's Shia faith. The High Court, which had earlier accepted Miss Jinnah's petition, now balked at the prospect of declaring the Father of the Nation a Shia. Needless to say, the case is still pending in Karachi. But Miss Jinnah's conduct showed that she was an observing Shia and took her brother's conversion to Twelver Shiism seriously. Why had Jinnah converted? It develops that he did it on his secular principle of freedom of religion. According to court's witness, Syed Sharifuddin Pirzada, Jinnah broke from the Ismaili faith in 1901 after his two sisters, Rehmat Bai and Maryam Bai, were married into Sunni Muslim families. It appears that this happened because the Ismaili community objected to these marriages. It also appears that the conversion to Isna-Ashari (Twelver) Shiism happened in Jinnah's immediate family, and not in the families of his two paternal uncles, Walji and Nathoo.

The court proceedings bear evidence of the last rites observed by Miss Jinnah immediately after her brother's death. Witness Syed Anisul Hasnain, a Shia scholar, deposed that he had arranged the ghusl (last bath) of Jinnah on the instructions of Miss Jinnah. He led his namaz-e janaza (funeral prayer) in a room of the GovernorGeneral's House at which such Shia luminaries as Yusuf Haroon, Hashim Raza and Aftab Hatim Alavi were present, while Liaquat Ali Khan, a Sunni, waited outside the room. After the Shia ritual, the body was handed over to the state, and Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani, a breakaway alim of the Deobandi school of thought who supported Jinnah's Pakistan Movement but had recently apostatised the Shias, led his janaza (funeral) according to the Sunni ritual at the ground where a grand mausoleum was later constructed. Other witnesses confirmed that after the demise of Miss Fatima Jinnah, clam and panja (two Shia symbols) were discovered at Mohatta Palace, her residence.

Witnesses appearing at the Sindh High Court in 1968 to affirm Jinnah's sect were Mr I.H. Ispahani, a family friend of Jinnah and his honorary secretary in 1936, and Mr Matloobul Hassan Syed, the Quaid's private secretary from 1940 to 1944. Mr Ispahani revealed that Jinnah had himself told him in 1936 that he and his family had converted to Shiism after his return from England in 1894. He said that Jinnah had married Ruttie Bai, the daughter of a Parsi businessman according to the Shia ritual during which she was represented by a Shia scholar of Bombay, and Jinnah was represented by his Shia friend, Raja Sahib of Mahmudabad. (Raja Sahib was a close friend of Jinnah but differed completely from him in his belief. He was a devout follower of the Twelver Shia faith and ultimately chose to migrate from an independent India to Najaf in Iraq. His friendship with Jinnah has puzzled many. Apparently, the only bond they had was of the Shia faith.) He, however, conceded that Jinnah was opposed in the Bombay elections by a Shia Conference candidate. Ispahani was present when Miss Fatima Jinnah died in Karachi in 1967. He himself arranged the ghusl and janaza for her at Mohatta Palace according to the Shia ritual before handing over the body to the state. Her Sunni namaz-e janaza was held later at the Polo Ground, after which she was buried next to her brother at a spot chosen by Ispahani inside the mausoleum. Ritualistic Shia talgin (last advice to the deceased) was done after her body was lowered into the grave. (Jinnah had arranged for talgin for Ruttie Bai too when she died in 1929).

Fatima Jinnah's own funeral became something of a theatre of the absurd after her friends had given her a Shia funeral before the state could give her a Sunni one. Field Marshal Ayub Khan writes in his Diaries:

11 July 1967: Major General Rafi, my military secretary, returned from Karachi. He had gone there to represent me at Miss Jinnah's funeral. He said that sensible people were happy that the government had given her so much recognition, but generally the people behaved very badly. There was an initial namaz-e janaza at her residence in Mohatta Palace in accordance, presumably, with Shia rites. Then there was to be namaz-e janaza for the public in the Polo Ground. There an argument developed whether this should be led by a Shia or a Sunni. Eventually, Badayuni was put forward to lead the prayer. As soon as he uttered the first sentence the crowd broke in the rear. Thereupon he and the rest ran leaving the coffin high and dry. It was with some difficulty that the coffin was put on a vehicle and taken to the compound of the Quaid's mazar, where she was to be buried. There a large crowd had gathered and demanded to converge on the place of burial. This obviously could not be allowed for lack of space. Thereupon, the students and the goonda elements started pelting stones on the police. They had to resort to lathi charge and tear gas attack. The compound of the mazar was apparently littered with stones, Look at the bestiality and irresponsibility of the people. Even a place like this could not be free of vandalism.
Welcome to The Friday Times - Was Jinnah a Shia or a Sunni? by Khaled Ahmed - Pakistan's First Independent Weekly Paper:www.thefridaytimes.com
 
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The videos from the Australian TV network that you posted in the other thread has the same whine, obfuscation and platitudes that you find @Neo peddling.

Can anyone believe this codswallop?

Yet, in the same breath, I will say there are many Indian Muslims who are sane and are very balanced.
 
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