Pakistan moves 100,000 troops from border with India: Pentagon

[DaRk WaVe]

So you accept that you are going to kill more of your people once money is paid for killing them.

Trolling, already explained

 

[nitesh]

Trolling, already explained

Trolling how? Care to explain

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Trolling how? Care to explain

Ask Pentagon, they are doing everything they can to get us some equipment

why are you asking me

 

[nitesh]

Ask Pentagon, they are doing everything they can to get us some equipment

why are you asking me

Why should I ask pentagon? Are they responsible for your people or your institutions? The point is your institutions are killing your own people for money.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Why should I ask pentagon? Are they responsible for your people or your institutions? The point is your institutions are killing your own people for money.

haaaa, you can say that who cares, there is no Genocide going on, we are killing rouge elements BTW thats off topic

 

[nitesh]

haaaa, you can say that who cares, there is no Genocide going on, we are killing rouge elements BTW thats off topic

Huh you are killing people selectively and once money is paid you are killing them all the basics remain the same pay your institutions money and they will kill you own people whom foreigners point out.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

Huh you are killing people selectively and once money is paid you are killing them all the basics remain the same pay your institutions money and they will kill you own people whom foreigners point out.

first you were making point that PA is going for the Tailban that are hurting Pak , now you are saying PA will go for any one once money is paid

Continue please

 

[nitesh]

first you were making point that PA is going for the Tailban that are hurting Pak , now you are saying PA will go for any one once money is paid

Continue please

Am I saying wrong? It is the fact the Taliban is your own people which have been turned in to monster because of your institutions money lust and now they are killing the same people for the lust of money again

 

[hit&run]

Washington: Having pumped billions of dollars in military assistance and rushing guerrilla warfare experts to train soldiers to shore up Pakistan's capabilities to tackle militancy, influential US Congressmen and Pentagon officials feel that the nation is still closer to siege "I don't think the dynamic is as distinct as a nation at war or a nation at peace. It's probably closer to a nation under threat or a nation under siege," Lt Gen John Paxton, Director for Operations, Joint Chief of Staff, told the US Congress. "It (Pakistan) is probably more a nation under threat, and they realise that they have to respond now, that they have both the opportunity and the obligation, and that failure to do so now - things could conceivably get worse and get worse quickly," Paxton said in a hearing on Thursday.
The top Pentagon's officials assessment came as Congress members cutting across party lines also expressed concern over the progress in Pakistan and raised questions over its capabilities in both governance and fight against terrorism. "Pakistan's continuing security challenges have serious implications for regional, international and US national security," said Ike Skeleton, Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee said in the course of depositions by Pentagon on the situation in Pakistan.
While, acknowledging the pressure on Taliban and al-Qaeda by increased military operations, Michele Flournoy, the Undersecretary for Defence said the Pakistan army's hold over freshly captured terrorists' areas remained fragile.
"Pakistan must have the capabilities to translate tactical successes into permanent elimination of militant and terrorist safe havens," Flournoy said. Observing that stable and secure Pakistan is of vital strategic importance to the US, Gen Paxton US Marines said, simply clearing these areas of the militants is insufficient. This progress would be undermined if the Pakistani security forces are unable to hold and gradually build in these areas.
"As Pentagon officials built up a fragile scenario in Pakistan, the Republican Skeleton said, "There is still a long way to go, and, frankly, a lot of hard work. old-and-build capabilities are integral to counterinsurgency operations in Pakistan, but they're not yet developed."Another Republican Congressman Buck McKeon said, "Despite increased military operations, Pakistan is a nation that is more appropriately comparable to a combat zone, such as found in Afghanistan, and should be treated as such."

 

[ajtr]

Indian nomenclature is also changing, Predators were already explained by me in a different thread, go look for it the matter of fact is

'dil behalane wala kam koi bhr kr sakta, tum logo agr dil behal rah ha to behle, hume kia, NOC ke zarurat ni ha, Amerki agr NOC issue kr den to koi khas faqar ni pare ga'

BTW you still havent told me are you Indian or Pakistani?

Nightwatch comment

Pakistan: For the record. The United States will transfer $600 million to Pakistan to reimburse it for military operations conducted during the past year, according to a statement from the U.S. Department of Defense on April 29. A Pentagon spokesman said the $600 million will be sent to Pakistan within the next few weeks, and that Washington has made great efforts at accelerating reimbursement payments to Islamabad.

Comment: A few months ago a Brilliant and Discerning Reader suggested in feedback that Pakistani counter-militant operations did not represent a basic change in Pakistani views of the threat. He did not know why the Pakistanis suddenly began pursuing Afghan Taliban, but was certain the reason was something other than a shift in national priorities.

This news item provides that missing component of causality. The Saudis have bought Pakistan Army security services, from time to time. Why not the US. Using economic power to improve security is always cheaper than using military power and better than spilling American lives in far away places. It works as long as the money does not run out.

This also helps explain the seeming paradox of the Pakistan Army's continued identification of India as the primary threat, while committing substantial resources against the militants in the west.

 

[DaRk WaVe]

haaa, its the same reader who was declaring that Pakistan has mastered art of bluffing(i think it was you indeed)

Saudis have got PETRO dollars & they are using it, they are one hell of hypocrites, they declare themselves saviors of holy places yet they call in PA & French infidel commandos to get rid of some rag tag idiots plus they need US to protect themselves in Gulf War.....

the reader is again simplifying things, soon he will be coming with a new theory, I hope by that time I am here & yes PA considers India a threat, now don't even try to divert the Topic towards 'Indian Innocence & Simplicity',

Please Stop Americans from shipping equipment to Pakistan of simply tell them to put a tag

'NOT FOR USE AGAINST INDIA - UNCLE SAM'​

& BTW Khalid Khawaja was killed by "Asian Tigers', now thats Kinda weird isn't it? We are moving towards something else

 

[ajtr]

Pakistan's Punjab region on knife-edge as extremists take hold, says governor​

Politicians accused of backing banned groups as minorities suffer violence and intimidation


Saeed Shah Faisalabad
guardian.co.uk, Thursday 29 April 2010 19.31 BST
Article history
Pakistan's heartland Punjab province is an extremist "bomb" ready to explode, the region's highest official has warned, with the recent targeting of minority groups seen by some as evidence of jihadists' grip on the area.

The provincial governor accused the regional government, led by former prime minister Nawaz Sharif's party, of tolerating or even supporting extremists, who are said to operate openly in Punjab free from the military operations waged against Taliban guerrillas in the area bordering Afghanistan.

"The Sharifs are creating a potential bomb here in Punjab," said Salman Taseer, the governor of Punjab, who was appointed by the national government. "These [militant] groups are armed and dangerous. There is no way you can accommodate these people. There has to be zero tolerance."

In recent weeks, a spate of armed robberies and kidnappings of the Ahmedi sect in the city of Faisalabad was traced to members of Jamaat-ud-Dawa, the group previously known as Lashkar-e-Taiba that was blamed for the devastating 2008 terrorist attack on Mumbai. Three Ahmedis were also shot dead, thought to be the work of the same group.

Sharif's opponents accuse his party, the opposition Pakistan Muslim League-N – whose support comes partly from the religious right – of accommodating extremists such as Sipah-e-Sahaba, a banned sectarian group blamed for the deaths of hundreds of Shias.

In Jhang town, a byelection last month saw Sharif's party openly court Sipah-e-Sahaba supporters. Punjab's law minister, Rana Sanaullah, was pictured on the campaign trail with the alleged head of the group, Ahmed Ludhianvi.

Experts believe that the Pakistani Taliban is deeply influenced by Sipah-e-Sahaba, with the Taliban's leader, Hakimullah Mehsud, a former member.

Sheikh Waqas Akram, an opposition member of parliament from Jhang, which is the headquarters of Sipah-e-Sahaba, likened the situation in Punjab to the Swat valley, where official inaction allowed the Taliban to take over in 2008. "There can be 10 Swats in Punjab, if you don't check them [extremists]," said Akram.

But Sanaullah denied the claims, saying that while banned groups operated in the province there was no "Talibanisation" in Punjab. "Not a single street where you can say there is a no-go area," he said.

Sanaullah said that groups based in the north-west were behind the terrorist attacks in Punjab, not local organisations, adding that "95% of the people of Sipah-e-Sahaba are not terrorists". He said: "We must persuade these persons to put aside their guns, to participate in elections. They have the right to vote, so why can't I ask them [Sipah-e-Sahaba] for votes?"

Over the last year the affluent Ahmedi community in Faisalabad has been rocked by a campaign of violence and intimidation, which intensified in recent weeks. Ahmedi are classified as non-Muslims under Pakistani law, for believing that Muhammad was not the final prophet.

Police arrested four suspects last month. Three days later, on 1 April, three members of an Ahmedi family were shot dead as they returned from work. Their car was sprayed with bullets, in what police believe was a "very professional" hit and possible revenge for the arrests.

"The four people in jail are in Jamaat-ud-Dawa," said senior Faisalabad police officer Abid Hussain. "They told us that they got a decree from a maulvi (priest) in their group that says that robbing, kidnapping and killing Ahmedis is allowed and would be rewarded in heaven."

The city's Ahmedi community have restricted their movements and some have hired bodyguards.

"We are now scared to leave the house, when the door bell rings, we are frightened about who might be there. Outside, we feel always like someone is following us," said Mohammad Iqbal Ahmed, whose son and nephew were kidnapped in March and returned after the payment of a £20,000 ransom.

 

[ajtr]

haaa, its the same reader who was declaring that Pakistan has mastered art of bluffing(i think it was you indeed)

Saudis have got PETRO dollars & they are using it, they are one hell of hypocrites, they declare themselves saviors of holy places yet they call in PA & French infidel commandos to get rid of some rag tag idiots plus they need US to protect themselves in Gulf War.....

the reader is again simplifying things, soon he will be coming with a new theory, I hope by that time I am here & yes PA considers India a threat, now don't even try to divert the Topic towards 'Indian Innocence & Simplicity',

Please Stop Americans from shipping equipment to Pakistan of simply tell them to put a tag

'NOT FOR USE AGAINST INDIA - UNCLE SAM'​

& BTW Khalid Khawaja was killed by "Asian Tigers', now thats Kinda weird isn't it? We are moving towards something else

well saudis,pakistani,UK,USA are in same hamam.so isn't it surprising that pakistan's perfidy is being deflected on its langot yaar now=heheh

Tag or no tag but uncle sam sure cuts the spare parts supply at the write time.I think pakistan knows this usa perfidy better than india does=xD

Btw i'm too intrigued by the term "Asian tigers". it feels like with so many terror groups with islamic name in pakistan these people ran out of an appealing islamic name for their group secondly they may be thinking about some pan asian islamic group name which will appeal most of the recuiits from different countries.