Pakistan, Iran inaugurate pipeline.

[pankaj nema]

Since the Iranians are selling gas at 78 percent of the price of OIL ie
gas price is pegged to Oil price ; Mr Swaminathan Aiyar is RIGHT
in saying that such expensive gas will produce very expensive power

Let the Pakis enjoy this crazyness

When the power bills come then they will see the reality

 

[gokussj9]

Since the Iranians are selling gas at 78 percent of the price of OIL ie
gas price is pegged to Oil price ; Mr Swaminathan Aiyar is RIGHT
in saying that such expensive gas will produce very expensive power

Let the Pakis enjoy this crazyness

When the power bills come then they will see the reality

This pipeline will never see the daylight. It is just a final face saving attempt from corrupt
Zardari govt to woo the voters and try to convince them that Pak is not a wh@re to the US.
When some other party wins, the blame will be transferred to them.

 

[sukhish]

pipe line my A****S, all ohtos ops, couple of days back i read a news that world's biggest tower is going to come up in karachi. well that dd not happen.
zardari is trying to show bravado just before the elections. neither iran has the money nor will any one expect it. pakistan was some how hoping to blackmail US for the nuclear deal with India. that did not work

 

[farhan_9909]

Swaminathan sahab should rather stick with india not pakistan since he making only a fool of himself

Iran to supply gas at discounted price | The Nation

 

[farhan_9909]

no such issues was raised from india side when india was in the project.

now under US pressure when they are back from the project they are making such claims

Anyway this deal will increase iran-pak relations to a whole new level

7.5billions dollar this deal+4billions dollars oil refinary are just 2 bold agreement between iran and pakistan only within 3 months of this year

haters gonna hate.but now hating pakistan is there culture we cant do much about this

 

[gokussj9]

no such issues was raised from india side when india was in the project.

now under US pressure when they are back from the project they are making such claims

Anyway this deal will increase iran-pak relations to a whole new level

7.5billions dollar this deal+4billions dollars oil refinary are just 2 bold agreement between iran and pakistan only within 3 months of this year

haters gonna hate.but now hating pakistan is there culture we cant do much about this

Hold your camels (ooppss) and wait for a while before this Pipeline project goes to the Paki Denial thread.

 

[Pakistani Nationalist]

Hold your camels (ooppss) and wait for a while before this Pipeline project goes to the Paki Denial thread.

Hold ur cow or monkey for tht matter.... Pipeline on the iranian side is already complete and now its under construction on our side... while india backed out under us pressure and is also halting oil supplies from iran...

 

[geoBR]

New Pipeline Pakistan-Iran

Pakistan, Iran break ground on pipeline project

http://http://dawn.com/2013/03/11/pakistan-iran-break-ground-on-pipeline-project/

ISLAMABAD: Despite strong opposition from the US and warnings of economic sanctions, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmedinijad on Monday officially inaugurated construction work of a delayed $7.5 billion gas pipeline from Iran to Pakistan.

The ceremony, which the president's office described as a 'big event', was held in the Iranian border city of Chabahar. Both presidents were accompanied at the ground-breaking by delegations comprising ministers, top officials as well as representatives of several Arab states.

Iranian state television showed footage of Ahmadinejad and Zardari shaking hands and offering prayers after unveiling a plaque to mark Pakistan's involvement.

"The completion of the pipeline is in the interests of peace, security and progress of the two countries "¦ it will also consolidate the economic, political and security ties of the two nations," the two presidents said in a joint statement.

President Zardari, in his address at the ceremony, regarded the pipeline project as "very important" for Pakistan.

Zardari said world peace was correlated with peace in Pakistan, which, he stressed, was not opposed to or against any other state.

He said the prosperity of Pakistan and Iran was inter-linked and that the former was striving to become self-reliant. He added that the international community was unaware of the problems of the regional countries.

Ahmadinejad hailed the fact that work on the new section of the pipeline was going ahead despite US sanctions against Iran's oil and gas sector imposed over its controversial nuclear programme.

"This gas pipeline is a sign of show of resistance against domination," Ahmadinejad said.

"This pipeline has nothing to do with the nuclear issue, you can not build a nuclear bomb with natural gas," he said, speaking alongside President Zardari in comments broadcast live on Iranian state television.

Possible sanctions

The Iran-Pakistan pipeline is intended to help Pakistan overcome its mushrooming energy needs at a time when the country is facing increased blackouts and energy shortages.

Dubbed the "peace pipeline", the project has faced repeated delays since it was conceived in the 1990s to connect Iran's giant South Pars gas field to India via Pakistan.

It has also prompted several warnings from the United States of the possible imposition of economic sanctions on Pakistan.

US State Department spokesperson Victoria Nuland has warned if the deal is finalised, it "would raise serious concerns under our Iran Sanctions Act."

"We've made that absolutely clear to our Pakistani counterparts. And just to say again that Iran has proven again and again that it is not a reliable partner," she said.

But, brushing aside US concerns and pressures, president's spokesman Farhatullah Babar told Dawn on Sunday that the project was being commissioned purely to meet economic needs of the country and was being executed by two sovereign states.

"The government is going to initiate this important project in view of the energy requirements. The project will bring economic prosperity, provide better opportunities to the people and help defeat militancy," he said.

Fears of possible US sanctions over the deal took their toll on the Karachi Stock Exchange, Pakistan's main stock market, as it plummeted almost 2.5 per cent, or 441 points, on Monday. Analysts said a statement from the US State Department was expected later Monday, which could determine the future course of the stock market.

The Pakistani foreign office said earlier last week that the country is "not in a fix" on account of US pressure on Pakistan because of Iran being sanctioned.

"Pakistan, being an energy deficient country, is hugely suffering both economically and socially," a foreign office spokesman told a press conference on Thursday. "We are very clear about this project. It is in our national interest to go ahead with this project."

India, which was initially also slated to be part of the project, quit in 2009, citing costs and security issues, a year after it signed a nuclear deal with Washington.

Completion by end-2014

Iran has completed 900 km of pipeline on its side of the border and Iranian contractors will also construct the pipeline in Pakistan, Iran's national broadcasting network IRIB reported.

According to Pakistani state-owned news agency APP, Tehran-based Tadbir Energy Development Group will undertake all engineering procurement and construction work for the first segment of the project, which starts from the Iran-Pakistan border.

The Iranian firm will also carry out the second segment of the project, while the remaining amount is expected to be generated by Pakistan through Gas Infrastructure Development Cess (GIDC).

Tehran has agreed to lend Islamabad $500 million, or a third of the estimated $1.5 billion cost of the 750 km Pakistani section of the pipeline, Fars news agency reported.

The two sides hope the pipeline will be complete in time to start delivery of 21.5 million cubic metres of gas per day to Pakistan by December 2014.

Monday's ceremony comes just days before the five-year term of the ruling Pakistan People's party government is set to expire, with elections scheduled to be held in mid-may.

 

[farhan_9909]

construction work is started and to be completed within 15 months

even though i am not 100% pro this project but still i support it only because of we going against the will of USA..

Best step taken by this govt

Iran and Pakistan are moving closer to completion of a nearly 1,000-mile natural gas pipeline linking the two countries, despite U.S. objections that it could become a source of hard currency for Tehran in defiance of international sanctions.

Monday marks the beginning of construction on Pakistan's part of the pipeline, which will consist of a 485-mile run. Iran has already completed most of its 760-miles of the link, which will stretch from Assaluyeh along Iran's Persian Gulf coast to Nawabshah in Pakistan's Sindh Provence.

The pipeline is meant to help alleviate shortfalls in energy demand in Pakistan, where brownouts and blackouts occur daily.

In a live television broadcast Monday, Iran's Mahmoud Ahmadinejad stood side-by-side with his Pakistani counterpart, Asif Ali Zardari just inside the Iranian border.

Iran reportedly gave Pakistan a $500 million loan for the project, which is expected to cost Islamabad $1.5 billion.

"Today is a historic day. The gas pipeline project is the beginning of a great work," Ahmadinejad told assembled dignitaries from both countries.

"The Westerners have no right to make any obstacles in the way of the project," he added.

The U.S. has strenuously objected to the project, which Iran and Pakistan agreed to in 1995. According to the Pakistani media, U.S. Consul General Michael Dodman said in January that the U.S. would impose sanctions on Islamabad if the pipeline went ahead.

"If this deal is finalized for a proposed Iran-Pakistan pipeline, it would raise serious concerns under our Iran Sanctions Act. We've made that absolutely clear to our Pakistani counterparts," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said during a Washington news conference last week.

Pakistan's Dawn newspaper reports Pakistani presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar "brushed aside" U.S. concerns and pressures.

Babar was quoted as saying the project was only about energy requirements.

"The project will bring economic prosperity, provide better opportunities to the people and help defeat militancy," he told Dawn.

The pipeline was scheduled to begin operations in 2014, but delays have caused construction to fall behind.

Pakistan Begins Construction of Pipeline Link With Iran : The Two-Way : NPR

 

[farhan_9909]

Poor they..

quoting

We became a nuclear power when sanctions were imposed on us

DISCOURS DU PREMIER MINISTRE PAKISTANAIS APRÈS L'EXPLOSION D'UNE BOMBE ATOMIQUE | Perspective Monde

Sanctions are welcome this time again
US maintains ‘serious concerns’ over Pak-Iran gas pipeline – The Express Tribune

 

[geoBR]

Pakistan defies US with gas pipeline to Iran

http://http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/03/201331110555932441.html


Iranian and Pakistani leaders have inaugurated the construction of a much-delayed section of a $7.5bn gas pipeline linking the two neighbours, defying the threat of US sanctions.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad launched the project with his Pakistani counterpart Asif Ali Zardari at a ceremony on the border on Monday, hailing the agreement as a blow to US-led sanctions targeting his country's oil and gas sector.

The two leaders unveiled a plaque before shaking hands and offering prayers for the successful conclusion of the project, which involves the laying of a 780km section of the pipeline on the Pakistani side, expected to cost some $1.5bn.

The pipeline is intended to help Islamabad overcome its increasing energy needs at a time when the country is facing increased blackouts and energy shortages.

There are serious doubts, however, about how Pakistan can finance the project and whether it can go through with the project without facing US sanctions, which Washington has put in place to pressure Iran over its nuclear programme.

Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder, reporting from Islamabad, said the agreement with Iran could "entail a heavy price" on Pakistan.

"Pakistan is also very dependent on the United States when it comes to conventional weapons," Hyder said.

But Pakistan also faces an energy crisis and its needs gas that Iran can supply, he added.

Monday's event comes just days before the government's term is set to expire and could be designed to win votes by making the ruling Pakistan People's Party (PPP) look like it is addressing the energy crisis.

US opposition

The US has opposed the project, instead promoting an alternative pipeline that runs from the gas fields of Turkmenistan to Afghanistan, Pakistan and then to India.

Washington has also championed a number of electricity-generation projects within Pakistan such as helping to renovate hydropower dams.

Iran says it has already finished its side of the pipeline, which travels 1,150km from the gas fields to the Iran-Pakistan border.

Gas is supposed to start flowing in by the end of 2014, although few see that deadline as realistic considering the delays so far in the project.

"If this deal is finalised for a proposed Iran-Pakistan pipeline, it would raise serious concerns under our Iran Sanctions Act," said Victoria Nuland, the US state department spokeswoman, during a news briefing in Washington last week.

"We've made that absolutely clear to our Pakistani counterparts."

Under US regulations, a wide-ranging list of business-related activities with Iran can trigger US sanctions.

Certain sales of technology or equipment that allow Iran to develop its energy sector are barred, as are most transactions involving gas or other fuels, according to a January report by the Congressional Research Report.

The regulations also bar business dealings with Iranian financial institutions.

Iran also faces separate EU and UN sanctions over its controversial nuclear programme, which the West believes is geared for building nuclear weapons. Tehran denies the charge, insisting the programme is purely for peaceful purposes.

 

[sukhish]

are you sure it will complete ? lot's of projects have been started in the past like the Daimer basha dam etc etc, but none have been finished. I not really sure
if this will be completed, also especially through balouchistan ?

 

[farhan_9909]

are you sure it will complete ? lot's of projects have been started in the past like the Daimer basha dam etc etc, but none have been finished. I not really sure
if this will be completed, also especially through balouchistan ?

under the new govt the project might be completed before the expected time..

 

[gokussj9]

Hold ur cow or monkey for tht matter.... Pipeline on the iranian side is already complete and now its under construction on our side... while india backed out under us pressure and is also halting oil supplies from iran...

Inbred let piece of shit, India was given civil nuclear deal as a sweetener which your wh@re nation
if sells off won't get.

 

[Blackwater]

we have many choice or even if we have no choice

Peace in pakistan means No relations with USA.Since the day we have started relations with USa we are in trouble

We dont want any kind of relations with usa anymore

Dear farhaan peace also prevails in pak, when pak and america were good and close friend from 1950 till 2001 or i would say 2005...what happen in pak after 2005 is not entirely blamed on ameerika...

you can not ignore ammerika,even if u keep relation with Arabs specially saudis ,amerika is directly involve

 

[Blackwater]

what yusuf gellaani doing in Iran or its a old pic when he was prime minister

 

[Prometheus]

under the new govt the project might be completed before the expected time..

Pakistan is going to take the Iranian and build the pipeline ..... then it will eventually back out (faced with the US sanctions), leaving Iran at a loss.
The only time I will believe Pakistan will go all the way is if, Zardari says " we will eat grass , but we will build a pipeline!! " I love it when you Pakis say this, bedsides its not going to be that bad, as farhan mentioned in another thread, the Pak govt has added sand to the new menu. And hellfire deserts are also served to Pakis for free, by the US

 

[Blackwater]

there is slight hitch in this project. If Sharif PML-N comes to power, They might scrape this deal as they are highly under influence of Saudis and Saudis dont like this project

 

[datguy79]

This is such a terrible deal for Pakistan. They gain nothing from it.

- Iran is going to monopolize the pakistani market and then they can turn off the tap whenever any of their demands are not met.
- The pipeline gives Iran an incentive to interfere in eastern baluchistan
- Sanctions might go as far as western banks refusing to transfer money to Pakistan. resulting in the loss of billions of dollars of cash that pakistanis abroad can't send home, effectively crashing the Pakistani economy.


Iran has't allowed a single Pakistani truck to enter it over the past couple of years, and the Pakistanis here have convinced themselves that Iran is acting in their best interests.

 

[amoy]

Iran-Pakistan 'lifeline': Pipeline aims for global power balance — RT Op-Edge

Hailing from Russia (RT)?

Secondly, the Iran-Pakistan pipeline could quite easily become the Iran-Pakistan-China pipeline if Beijing decides to finally get involved. In this very plausible scenario, China would finally get the "holy grail" it has sought for years: land-based access to energy imports from the Middle East. For China, an energy-starved economy that continues to grow, this would greatly enhance their regional position. It would also transform the balance of power in Asia, as the era of US domination of energy resources in the Middle East would be over. So, were the project to be extended to China, the pipeline would become the focus of a new power paradigm, making it one of the most important economic development projects in the world.

Additionally, the pipeline shows the growing power and influence of international alliances and organizations that represent a counterweight to the imperialist establishment of the West. Iran has taken on the role of leading the Non-Aligned Movement, thrusting itself into the forefront of the anti-imperialist bloc. At the same time, both Iran and Pakistan seek membership in the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), led by Russia and China, which is showing signs of developing into a full-fledged strategic alliance that provides a check to US-NATO dominance. In this way, the pipeline becomes the tangible link between various organizations and alliances which seek to beat a path independent of US hegemony. It is for this reason, more than anything else, that the United States has vigorously attempted to subvert the development of the pipeline, going so far as to heavily promote the much-touted Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline, seen as the main competitor to the Iran-Pakistan project. However, despite the fierce opposition from Washington, the project will go ahead while the TAPI still remains on the drawing board, subject to security concerns in Afghanistan and elsewhere along the route.