Pakistan gets first Awacs plane

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Guys back to topic please
 

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again the pilot landed the damm thing in pakistani territory its not like it was given to or as u said "surrenderd " an IAF Gnat, piloted by Squadron Leader Brij Pal Singh Sikand, landed at an abandoned Pakistani airstrip at Pasrur and was captured by the PAF. hey and about the Ace in 5 thats total crap and if that pilot was such a mavrick then why didnt he operate in the 71 war and about the kills aginst the IAF those kills are credited to the Royal Jordianian Air force and not to the PAF as the Kills where made by PAF pliots under RJAF Command and

PS : Hold your horses SSG your goverment dosent even have the guts to fight in an open battle field and talking about all this crap
 

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[mod]stick to topic everyone. more off topic posts and all will be deleted here on[/mod]
 

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Dawn editorial on this.

AEW&C systems

Dawn Editorial
Thursday, 31 Dec, 2009


The technology is inferior to the American Awacs long denied to Pakistan.— Photo from AP/File

THE induction of the first ‘high-tech’ aerial surveillance system into the Pakistan Air Force has been hailed as a great leap forward for the country’s defences. But we are circumspect. Here’s why. First, the Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) system purchased from Sweden is actually a mid-range technology, better than the rival French technology currently in use by the Pakistan Navy but inferior to the much-sought-after-but-denied American Awacs. Second, it is not clear yet to what purpose the new Swedish systems will be put. Handing the first over to the air force suggests that the war planners have an eye on India’s ‘cold start’ doctrine, which would theoretically make possible quick, surgical strikes inside Pakistan. But the fact is, the Swedish technology acquired can be equally useful over water, where the Pakistan Navy could use it to keep an eye on India’s submarines, particularly now that India is testing its first indigenously built nuclear submarine (though it is not yet clear if the Indian craft is merely a nuclear-powered submarine or a nuclear-missile-armed submarine).



Either way, the Swedish radars are a defensive capability that seems to have been acquired in response to assessments of what India can or cannot pull off militarily. Which raises the question: is military hardware the only, let alone the best, route for Pakistan to respond to changing threat perceptions? War planners here in Pakistan are always keen to highlight that they have ‘realistic’ assumptions and are ‘aware’ of the economic constraints of the country and therefore understand the impossibility and undesirability of matching India weapon for weapon in the military department. And yet Pakistan has just accepted the first of four reconnaissance systems that will cost $866m after virtually zero debate outside select military circles. Value for money? The people can only be certain when the defence-procurement system becomes more transparent.

DAWN.COM | Pakistan | AEW&C systems
 

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Pakistan Air Force inducts the Saab-2000 AEW&C system

30 December 2009

Kamra: The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) on Tuesday inducted the Saab-2000 Airborne Early Warning and Control (AEW&C) aircraft into its fleet, joining a small club of countries that can boast of such a capability.


Saab-2000 AEW&C made for the PAF

''The AEW&C aircraft has the capability to detect any ground moving and air moving object (including drones),'' chief of the air staff, air chief marshal Rao Qamar Suleman said while responding to questions from the media after the induction ceremony of the aircraft at the PAF Base Minhas here.

He also expressed satisfaction that the PAF's long-standing requirement for an airborne early warning capability had finally been realised with the induction of the Saab-2000. He said the system would make more effective the defence of Pakistani air space and also bring about a major change in its operational concept and deployment.

The AEW&C system will provide PAF with certain major advantages, as it will be able to detect and identify all the aircraft well before they enter Pakistan's air space. In case of hostilities, the system would also serve as force multipliers as it would check air intrusions by enemy aircraft and missiles and also enable tracking of enemy radars, missile sites and ships, besides controlling combat missions.

He also revealed that the PAF was in talks with China for the supply of four AWACS planes, which would be handed over to PAF from 2011 into 2012. These would be Il-76-based platforms, a derivative of the Russian Beriev A-50 Mainstay system, which it has copied.

Air chief marshal Suleman also said that the Pakistan Air Force would receive 18 new F-16 planes by July 2010. The new F-16s would be equipped with several new weapons.

He further added that Pakistan would also receive surface-to-air missile systems by the end of next year.

The new JF-17 Thunder squadron would be made operational by June 2010, he added.

Speaking on the occasion the chief project director of Project Horizon, air commodore Perci Edul Virjee of Sweden, said the Saab surveillance system was one of the most advanced airborne early warnings and control systems available with sophisticated sensors and communication suites.

Executive vice-president of the Saab AB, Dan Ake Enstedt, appreciated the professional insight of PAF officers involved in the project and the valuable inputs given by them towards the development of the system.

domain-b.com : Pakistan Air Force inducts the Saab-2000 AEW&C system
 

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Any Update on ground based Radar systems of Pak?
 

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picture from unveiling of ERIEYE in pakistan



source: dawn.com
 

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what is the endurance of this AWAC and any mid air refuel option ???
 

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Any Update on ground based Radar systems of Pak?
Yeh. As with the case of India, Pakistan has a comprehensive radar network which can also accept data from the civilian air traffic control radar. The most modern of these are six AN/TPS-77 3-D active phased array, solid state, long range, L-band radars (mobile versions of the earlier AN/FPS-117) for tactical air defence, procured from Lockheed Martin under a contract signed in Nov, 2005 under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program. The AN/TPS-77 is an excellent configuration, providing continuous 3-d surveillance on aerial targets at 280 miles and at elevations of up to 100,000 feet.

These may have been replacements for the TPS-43G, that Pakistan procured in 1985, an earlier generation of air surveillance radar manufactured by a different company. But I speculate here, since the numbers match (6 ~ 6).

Other than that, they operate a mix of now, largely antiquated Chinese and British long & short range radar: particularly, five pieces of the YLC-2 3D main guidance and surveillance radar in support of the PAF air defence network (by far the most modern of this mix, with a claimed range of 200km even in dense ECM environments, mechanical scanning in azimuth and frequency scanning in elevation (Frescan) in D-band and that bears distinct similarities to the Thales’ TRS-2230, that India has, and the ITT-Gilfillan 320 radars....developed specifically for export); the T-514 long-range, mobile surveillance radar; 4 systems of the British AR-1 general medium-range surveillance cum GCI Radar (British pic), 3 of the AR-15 mobile, medium-range surveillance cum GCI radar, an assortment of 45 Westinghouse MPDR variable short range mobile radars with ranges of between 46 - 92 kms, six MOU's for low-level early warning in the plains and 2 systems of the FPS-20 from Bendix, the US, (that they should have phased out by now).

One persistent problem that dogged Pakisthan and its radar coverage was the gap along the border between Sialkot and Suleimanke, that the PAF and the PA could not get covered for years, and along which major targets were located.

That was hoped to be bridged with the purchase of E-2C Hawkeye AEW aircraft way back in the early 2000's from the USA, that never materialized, but is ostensibly now with the purchase of the Saab-2000 AEW&C.
 

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what is the endurance of this AWAC and any mid air refuel option ???
Mission endurance: 9-9.5 hours, from varying sources.

The Saab-2000's marketing brochures available here, make no mention of a mid-air refuelling capability.

All of the four Saab 2000's, on order from the Pakistan Air force, are ex-Air France Saab 2000s, refurbished prior to being converted into AEW & C platforms.
 

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