Pakistan downloaded sensitive data from the IAF helicopter landed in POK

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Glad God gave them the brains to return our boys to us jus as they went there, otherwise the shit we would've done to their agents being watched and their political prisoners in our cells is stuff you could write history books about.
 
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OK Enough. No need to respond to the troll. Just report the posts. Paki won't bother us for a while
 

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New Delhi, Oct 23 (IANS) Signalling the spirit of the resumed peace process, an Indian Army helicopter that strayed into Pakistan in bad weather Sunday returned with its crew after Pakistani authorities let it go. India was prompt to appreciate Pakistan's understanding.

The Cheetah helicopter with four officers on board returned to Kargil in Jammu and Kashmir around 6 p.m., ending an inadvertent intrusion that immediately triggered urgent talks between the two foreign and military establishments.

The chopper landed safety in India, Virendra Singh, the army's assistant public relations officer, told IANS.

'We are relieved that our officers and helicopter are back in India. We greatly appreciate the manner in which Pakistan worked with us in resolving the matter,' Vishnu Prakash, the spokesperson of the external affairs ministry, said.

The Indian high commission in Islamabad was constantly in touch with the Pakistani side over the incident, which lasted about five hours.

The quick resolution of the issue, which could have become a potential diplomatic minefield, underlined the desire of the both countries to sustain the spirit of trust building that has marked their engagement since they resumed their peace process early this year. The dialogue process was frozen after 26/11 Mumbai attacks in which Pakistani militants were involved.

Indian military officials earlier said that pilot error forced the chopper to stray across the Line of Control (LoC) that divides Kashmir between India and Pakistan.

The helicopter carried two pilots, a junior commissioned officer and an engineer officer.

They were identified as Major R.G. Raja (pilot), Major G. Kapila (co-pilot), Lt. Col S.P. Verma (engineering officer) and Subedar Adilesh Sharma.

The helicopter had taken off from Leh in Jammu and Kashmir's Ladakh region and was bound for Bhimbhat in Drass sector near Kargil, on the LoC, to bail out an Indian Army helicopter that got grounded there after a snag. An earlier account had mistakenly described the helicopter as a Chetak.

Pakistani officials said the helicopter, which had taken off at around 1 p.m., was forced to land in Skardu sector in Pakistani administered Kashmir for violating the country's airspace. Skardu also lies close to the LoC.

Pakistani military spokesman Major General Athar Abbas said in Islamabad: 'The helicopter had come deep into our airspace. It was forced to land. Four Indian army officers have been taken into safe custody. They are safe.'

Pakistani later accepted the Indian version that the violation of the Pakistani airspace was an accident, caused due to volatile weather.

Immediately thereafter, the director general of military operations (DGMA) in New Delhi got in touch with his Pakistani counterpart to retrieve the chopper and its occupants.

India's foreign ministry also contacted the Pakistani government.

'It is understood that an army Cheetah helicopter flying from Leh to Bhimbhat with four officers on board strayed across the Line of Control due to inclement weather and landed in PoK (Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir),' Vishnu Prakash had said earlier.
http://http://in.news.yahoo.com/pakistan-appreciated-indian-chopper-returns-safely-160516855.html
 

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i see at the start of the thread, fellow members are jumping to conclusion and went ranting without any proofs or facts.

lets keep a cool head and not behave like pakistani forum members.

im glad cool sense prevailed in both pak and indian sides and the chopper and crew were allowed to return back.

ofcourse the pak army or govt dont want to be seen in bad light after whats going on in their western border with americans and afghans.

they want to maintain good relations and want to keep the eastern border with india as quite as possible.

i hope their good actions are not seen as negetive by islamists in pakistan.....that pak gave up the chopper under pressure from americans and indians!
 

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Pak took security data from chopper





Indian security has been breached in the sensitive Siachen Glacier-Aksai Chin-Ladakh-Kargil sector as Pakistan Army downloaded the GPS coordinates of all helipads from the army helicopter that strayed across the Line of Control (LoC) into Skardu region on sunday morning. The Indian Cheetah helicopter along with the crew was allowed to return by Pakistan government later in the day.


Top government sources said the incident was being probed at a high level as the GPS data of the helicopter was found wiped out along with nicknames and code signs of all the helipads in the 14 Corps area.The Nemu, Leh-based 14 Corps is responsible for defence of Kargil-Leh, Siachen Glacier and Line of Actual Control (LAC) with Tibet.


"We are treating the incident with utmost concern as coordinates of all helipads in the 14 Corps including Siachen Glacier and LAC are now with Pakistan army with code signs and nicknames," said a senior official.


Senior officials said the Indian crew was being questioned as the Cheetah was fitted with the GPS and there was no reason for the machine to stray into Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

To add insult to injury, the Pakistan artillery helipad (with number 90), on which the Cheetah landed in the Marol area just across the LoC in Kargil sector was not known to the Indian Army. The Pakistan army allowed the chopper to return to Kargil after refuelling the machine and giving directions to pilots.

While Pakistan now says its fighter jet forced the Indian helicopter to land across the LoC, prima facie evidence reveals that the Indian pilot had didn't know where he had landed the helicopter due to bad weather conditions nor the Pakistan army had any clue about the landing.

Sources said 14 Corps commander Lt Gen Ravi Dastane was visiting an Indian position on Sunday morning ahead of Kargil when his advanced light helicopter (ALH) helicopter developed a snag and was grounded.
While another machine landed and flew Dastane to Srinagar, the Cheetah with a maintenance engineer was flown to the post to bring back the ALH after repairs. It was during this maintenance mission that the Cheetah flew into bad weather and without the pilot realising it crossed the LoC into Pakistan territory of Marol, just across the Kargil town.


Pak took security data from chopper - Hindustan Times








After the website mess now this.. WTF???:shocked:

 

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While Pakistan now says its fighter jet forced the Indian helicopter to land across the LoC, prima facie evidence reveals that the Indian pilot had didn't know where he had landed the helicopter due to bad weather conditions nor the Pakistan army had any clue about the landing.
:doh: :doh:

Heads need to roll and all nicknames and codes have to be changed.
 

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Great. There's a Paki helipad that's so close to the border and the IA had no clue about it ! Whatever happened to satellite based intel ? Plus PA downloaded all the sensitive data about forward helipads, which is really serious.
 

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Here is Marol for you.

http://www.maplandia.com/pakistan/jammu-and-kashmir/kargil/marol/marol-google-earth.html

I am a bit surprised as to how the helicopter could make this mistake even in poor weather since the landmarks there are quite prominent.

13620, Batalik, Hamboting La Pass. One has to fly South of this.

North is the prominent Indus that turns off North when the Shingo join it East of Olthingthang.

Check this map out for Kargil, Marol and the NH1D

http://www.worldplaces.net/pak/07/olthingthang/

If they were to land in Bimbat or Drass, even the time of flying should have given an indication since Bhimbat or Drass would be way further West.
 
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@Sir the wrong landing is a self-goal for the Indian army or something
 

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Similar to this happened in the IB and the NIS that was even worse petty ego war.The previous head who was a moron wanted to get with even with his successor got the information of all the encryption devices into the public domain.Stupidity is exponentially increasing nowadays
 

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@Sir the wrong landing is a self-goal for the Indian army or something
The pilots are very professional and they do not fly without having familiarised the route quite a few times as a co pilot as far as I know.

Therefore, I am surprised, more so since this is peacetime flying.

Maybe the weather had become so bad that controlling the helicopter was very difficult and so they landed where it was feasible given the terrain and weather conditions.

I presume the helicopter was being buffeted too much and was blown off course.
 
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Pak took security data from the Army chopper



Indian security has been breached in the sensitive Siachen Glacier-Aksai Chin-Ladakh-Kargil sector as Pakistan Army downloaded the GPS coordinates of all helipads from the army helicopter that strayed across the Line of Control (LoC) into Skardu region on Sunday morning. The Indian Cheetah helicopter along with the crew was allowed to return by Pakistan government later in the day.

Top government sources said the incident was being probed at a high level as the GPS data of the helicopter was found wiped out along with nicknames and code signs of all the helipads in the 14 Corps area.

The Nemu, Leh-based 14 Corps is responsible for defence of Kargil-Leh, Siachen Glacier and Line of Actual Control (LAC) with Tibet.

"We are treating the incident with utmost concern as coordinates of all helipads in the 14 Corps including Siachen Glacier and LAC are now with Pakistan army with code signs and nicknames," said a senior official.

Senior officials said the Indian crew was being questioned as the Cheetah was fitted with the GPS and there was no reason for the machine to stray into Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK).

To add insult to injury, the Pakistan artillery helipad (with number 90), on which the Cheetah landed in the Marol area just across the LoC in Kargil sector was not known to the Indian Army. The Pakistan army allowed the chopper to return to Kargil after refuelling the machine and giving directions to pilots.

While Pakistan now says its fighter jet forced the Indian helicopter to land across the LoC, prima facie evidence reveals that the Indian pilot didn't know where he had landed the helicopter due to bad weather conditions nor the Pakistan army had any clue about the landing.

Sources said 14 Corps commander Lt Gen Ravi Dastane was visiting an Indian position on Sunday morning ahead of Kargil when his advanced light helicopter (ALH) helicopter developed a snag and was grounded.

While another machine landed and flew Dastane to Srinagar, the Cheetah with a maintenance engineer was flown to the post to bring back the ALH after repairs.
It was during this maintenance mission that the Cheetah flew into bad weather and without the pilot realising it crossed the LoC into Pakistan territory of Marol, just across the Kargil town.
 

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Now they need to change all the codes and names and make sure that all data is encrypted and cannot be downloaded by any Tom, D!ck and Harry.
 

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Now they need to change all the codes and names and make sure that all data is encrypted and cannot be downloaded by any Tom, D!ck and Harry.

Another example of short sighted thinking on their part. They should given thought to such an eventuality.
 

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What an absurd thing, this is the highest limit of ignorance of IA systems.
This is very obvious that Pak downloaded all the data so we need to change our whole coordinate coding system including everything which Pak can track easily.
 

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