Pakistan blinks, reopens NATO supply routes

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moto of pakistan, "Do din ki ha Gaerat, phir apna farz nibhana ha".

i remembered that american senator,who once said,"These pakistani even ready to sell their xxxxx for just 20$ ". in this case it will be millionss$$$$$$$

Jai ho pakistaniyo ki gaerat ki
 

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are they trying to blackmail china now?

Goood point, These pakis are the dirtiest on earth,They are not loyal to anybody.. they are famous for there blackmailing skills. they blackmailed USA during Afgan war now in WOT,Now its chini papa turn..
 

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The transport companies involved in ferrying NATO and US supplies earn huge money in the business. Transport companies belong to Politicians and generals. Pakistan Army's Ex Servicemen transport venture is employed in a big way. Their income has stopped !!

All are on their knees now. Now the USA should not use Pakistani route at all and and bring the Pakis to sit on their haunches.
 

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The transport companies involved in ferrying NATO and US supplies earn huge money in the business. Transport companies belong to Politicians and generals. Pakistan Army's Ex Servicemen transport venture is employed in a big way. Their income has stopped !!

All are on their knees now. Now the USA should not use Pakistani route at all and and bring the Pakis to sit on their haunches.
also not to forgot , lots of containers disappeared to be sold in black market to Taliban
 

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So much for the drama that they caused since last 1 month..:lol:. It is true after all; Pakistan has no credibility left in itself. They can be bought by anyone and sold to anyone.

The Reds should have realized what soup they've landed in when they chose these maniacs against us.
 

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There has to have been some under hand deal made other than the tariff, I suspect either some concession on the sale of F16's or guarantee in transfer of the Arline-Burke class frigates
 

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In our desi hindi , we would say, " Aa gaye apni aukat pe". That`s what exactly suits here. Rename the thread as these lines. :D
 

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Can somebody please elaborate the entire Nato supply route that passes from Pakistan via pics or anything else?
 

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Can somebody please elaborate the entire Nato supply route that passes from Pakistan via pics or anything else?
Chanakya should reply rather asking queries... Is not it ?? That should be the honour of bearing Channakya avatar !!
 

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Chanakya should reply rather asking queries... Is not it ?? That should be the honour of bearing Channakya avatar !!
Chanakya can answer your any question. Instead I can find my answer myself. The reason for putting up question here is to collect the ideas of different genius minds present over here. And my mother and my inspirations has taught me that no one becomes small in asking something which a person dont know. And btw i`m junior Chanakya. Small one.
 

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South Asia: The Case for a Strategic Reappraisal



As Pakistani authority in the North West Frontier Province (NWFP) and the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) unravels, as violence mounts across the border in Afghanistan, and as tensions between India and Pakistan are exacerbated by the terrorist atrocity in Mumbai, it is abundantly clear that the new Administration at Washington has inherited an acute and unprecedented crisis in South Asia. It must be increasingly evident, moreover, that past US strategies on Pakistan-Afghanistan have failed to secure their objectives over the last more than seven years since 9/11, and now demand urgent review. The imperatives of a critical strategic reappraisal become more insistent as Pakistan's evident 'descent into chaos' accelerates, and senior officials at Islamabad articulate fears of a threat of a Taliban takeover in wider areas, reaching as far as Karachi.

The crisis for American policy is heightened by a succession of attacks on US and ISAF supplies and supply routes, including several in the provincial capital, Peshawar. The most recent among such major attacks took place on February 3, 2009, destroying a crucial highway bridge in the Khyber Pass region, northwest of Peshawar. December 2008 had witnessed a succession of devastating attacks in and around Peshawar, starting on December 7, when a large group of militants attacked two transport hubs in Peshawar, destroying 220 containers and 70 armoured vehicles. The very next day, another terminal was attacked, followed by a fourth attack on December 13. These incidents were the culmination of a continuous stream of attacks through the year. Indeed, Pakistan started pushing supplies along a longer route through Balochistan and the Chaman border, after it was forced to suspended the supply line through the Torkham border on September 5, 2008, for a few days. Earlier, on March 23, two persons were killed and 50 others were injured when six bombs ripped through 40 oil tankers in the Bacha Mina area near the Torkham border in the Khyber Agency. Each tanker was carrying some 45,000 litres of fuel for NATO Forces in Afghanistan. Supply convoys have come under frequent missile and small arms fire en route through Pakistan.

These instances provide only a partial index to the growing risks to the ISAF supply routes through Pakistan. Taliban leaders, including 'commander' Hamidullah, the Taliban spokesman in the Orakzai Agency, have repeatedly warned of attacks on the ISAF supply lines. More significantly, these warnings have coincided with threats of 'organised protests' by various Islamist political formations, including the Jamaat-e-Islami, against continued supplies to the 'occupying Forces' in Afghanistan, through Pakistan. There are also some indications that these threats and attacks receive implicit support from certain elements within the state establishment. Pakistan has an agreement with the US for the secure transportation of supplies to Kabut but, as one commentator notes, "some officials in the Pakistani Government have ordered the security forces to shut their eyes to the attacks on US and NATO supplies in Peshawar."

Current thinking on 'solutions' to the problem emphasise increased protection for the supply hubs in Peshawar and heavy escorts to convoys on their journey through the Khyber Pass. At the same time, the necessity of developing alternative routes is increasingly emphasised. CENTCOM commander General David Petraeus, on January 20, 2009, stressed, "It is very important as we increase the effort in Afghanistan that we have multiple routes that go into the country"¦ There have been agreements reached, and there are transit lines now and transit agreements for commercial goods and services in particular that include several countries in the Central Asian states and also Russia." Russia remains the principal source of fuel for the ISAF's needs in Afghanistan. Routes are also being explored through Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan, and some agreements have been arrived at, though actual transportation across these countries is still to commence.

The Russian-Central Asian routes will, however, prove far more expensive than the current supply trains through Pakistan. Indeed, in terms of economy, only the route through Iran - from the Chahbahar Port and across the newly constructed Zaranj-Delaram highway to Kabul - offers comparative cost advantages, though its acceptability to the US in particular may prove problematic. It is clear, however, that an increasing measure of pragmatism is now prevailing in Washington on this count and, while US relations with Teheran remain fractious, top NATO officials did clarify, on February 2, 2009, that its members could use Iranian routes to re-supply their Forces. Despite both Iranian and US sensitivities on the issue, moreover, the Iranian route can certainly be activated through third-country supplies - and India can play a significant role in this - either to participating NATO Forces, or better, to the Government at Kabul, evading the burden of political and diplomatic baggage that any direct negotiations with Tehran may necessitate.

The principal limitation of all current and emerging arrangements - through Russia, Central Asia or, potentially, Iran - however, is that the transit countries are only agreeing to the passage of 'non-lethal' supplies over their soil. This will remain problematic, of course, but is not insurmountable. The overwhelming bulk of supplies for war are non-lethal and the necessary quantities of lethal supplies may continue to be transported through Pakistan till alternatives crystallize.

But the challenge of establishing multiple supply routes into Afghanistan goes far beyond maintaining the integrity of supplies. It is critical, now, to recognize that the strategic choice on the routes is far more fundamental to US objectives in Afghanistan-Pakistan - and in its 'war' or struggle against terrorism - than a question of maintaining uninterrupted supplies. Pakistan has had a stranglehold over US policy in the South Asian region for far too long, and its principal instrumentalities have been its loudly proclaimed, though consistently ambivalent, assistance to the 'war on terror'. In this, Pakistan has extorted a maximal price for every one of its apparent 'services', even as it has remained no more than a 'minimal satisfier', acquiescing to the least of available conditionalities for the liberal aid it is receiving, even as strong evidence accumulates that the state's agencies remain complicit with at least some elements within the Taliban and the complex network of Pakistan-based (and in many cases, state-backed) al Qaeda-linked terrorist and Islamist extremist organisations.

It is, furthermore, increasingly apparent that the 'problem of Afghanistan', and, overwhelmingly, of global Islamist terrorism, is squarely located in and emanates from Pakistan. The excessive reliance on a duplicitous Pakistani state and military-political leadership for any counter-terrorism goals or for stabilization of Afghanistan is necessarily counter-productive. Within this context it is crucial to understand that Pakistan has an enduring vested interest in provoking and sustaining instability in Afghanistan. There is, of course, a rooted commitment in Islamabad to the peculiar 'doctrine of strategic depth' but, more significantly, any measure of strength and stability at Kabul would directly tend to create challenges to Pakistan's territorial integrity. No regime at Kabul has accepted the validity of the Durand Line as the international border between Afghanistan and Pakistan since the withdrawal of the British from the region. It is significant that the Durand Line agreement of 1893 had no clause defining the expiry of its term, and Pakistan claims the territories of the NWFP only as the successor state in the region to the British Empire. While there is evident dispute on this, it has variously been claimed that, by international convention, any agreement that does not define a date of termination, can in fact be terminated with due notice by either of the contracting parties; or that the agreement would automatically lapse after a duration of 100 years. Pakistan, of course, insists that the absence of a termination clause implies agreement in perpetuity. Nevertheless, it is certain that, if Afghanistan were to stabilize, the question of the Pashtun areas of Pakistan would immediately become extraordinarily volatile and would constitute a direct threat to Islamabad's waning control over its border province. Pakistan, consequently, has an abiding rationale to provoke perpetual instability in its northern neighbour - and this must necessarily militate against the objectives of both the ISAF and Kabul.

In any event, it is now time to urgently explore every possible policy alternative with regard to Pakistan. The West has, since 9/11, been trapped in a policy cul de sac in South Asia, sinking billions into an unreliable 'partner' in the global war on terrorism, only to see the situation worsening steadily. It is, moreover, abundantly clear that, irrespective of what the international community chooses to do, restoring order and accountability in Pakistan in the foreseeable future is increasingly passing out of the scope of any conceivable external intervention. As both the global and domestic jihad take firm roots within Pakistan, and as powerful elements within the state structure remain complicit with the objectives and instrumentalities of this jihad, it is necessary for the international community in general, and for the US-NATO-Kabul alliance in particularly, to marginalize Pakistan's significance to their goals along every feasible parameter. While establishing multiple routes for supplies into Afghanistan can only go a small way towards releasing the region from Pakistan's destructive dynamic, it is, nevertheless, a significant step in this direction. The consolidation of a supply route through Iran, particularly, has the potential of opening up wider avenues of cooperation with Tehran in support of Afghan stabilisation. These are imperatives that the US-led alliance cannot afford to ignore.



(Published: Asian Conflict Reports, Issue 3, March 2009, Council for Asian Terrorism Research)

South Asia: The Case for a Strategic Reappraisal-- Ajai Sahni
 

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I hope the above post answers some of your queries,
 

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Pakistan's invitation to Chicago Summit, hinged on NATO supply routes

Pakistan's invitation to Chicago Summit, hinged on NATO supply routes – The Express Tribune

WASHINGTON: Responding to a query regarding Pakistan's attendance at the Nato Chicago Summit 2012, Nato Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen said that the closure of the supply routes to Afghanistan via Pakistan is a matter of great concern however he did not clearly mention if Pakistan was invited to the event or not.

Speaking at a press conference in Brussels, Rasmussen said that "if we are to ensure long-term peace and stability in Afghanistan, then we need positive engagement with Pakistan. Actually, we have done a lot to develop a strong relationship, a strong partnership and strong co-operation with Pakistan."

He further added that "we have invited a number of countries from the region – neighbours of Afghanistan – Central Asian countries, Russia, because they provide an important transit arrangement to the benefit of our operation. But as you also know, our transit routes through Pakistan are currently blocked. So we have to continue our dialogue with Pakistan, with a view to finding a solution to that because that's really a matter of concern."

Rasmussen also said that India and China will not be attending the summit.

Meanwhile, top military commanders from Pakistan, Afghanistan and the US are set to meet this week. The meeting for the tripartite commission will be the first since Nato airstrikes on a Pakistani security forces check post near the Afghan border.

The crucial three-way talks in Rawalpindi will be attended by Army Chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, Afghan military chief General Sher Muhammad Karimi and Nato/Isaf commander General John Allen.

Talks will focus on enhancing the efficiency of border coordination measures along the Pak-Afghan border and multilateral mechanisms at operational and tactical levels.

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How much of a chance do you think there is that Gilani will suddenly announce that NATO supply routes are open and then stumble into Chicago summit like a bin bulaya mehmaan (uninvited guest) ?
 
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Soon efforts will be made that Pakistan is left in the lurch to survive.
 

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Pakistan to consider reopening NATO supplies - NY Daily News

Pakistan's leaders will meet on Tuesday to discuss ending a blockade on NATO supplies and how to repair relations with the United States. Pakistan closed its border to NATO supplies after an air strike killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.

Pakistani leaders will meet next week to discuss ending a nearly six-month blockade on NATO supplies into Afghanistan, officials said Friday.

Tuesday's meeting will also debate how and whether to repair relations with the United States in time to attend a key NATO summit later this month.

Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani is understood to have confirmed the date for the meeting of the defence committee of the cabinet from London, where he is on an official visit to Britain, the second-largest contributor to the NATO mission in Afghanistan.

Pakistan shut its Afghan border crossings to NATO supplies after US air strikes killed 24 Pakistani soldiers on November 26, provoking a major crisis in Pakistani-US relations still reeling from the raid that killed Osama bin Laden the previous May.

US officials expressed regret, but stopped short of apologising for the deaths that an American and NATO investigation said stemmed from mistakes made on both sides.

"A meeting of the defence committee of the cabinet has been convened on May 15. It will be followed by cabinet meeting on May 16," said one senior government official.

Diplomats have been keen to resolve the impasse between Islamabad and Washington before the NATO summit on Afghanistan in Chicago on May 21-22, to which Islamabad has been invited.

"The meetings will discuss whether Pakistan should reopen the NATO supply route or not, and if Islamabad should attend the upcoming NATO summit in Chicago," another official told AFP.

"These are very critical issues, which need a serious discussion," he added.

Gilani will chair the talks, to be attended by Pakistan's service chiefs, including head of the army General Ashfaq Kayani and ISI intelligence head, Zaheer ul Islam, as well as Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar, the defence, interior and finance ministers.

"This is an important meeting and it will decide about the future of Pakistan-US relations," the senior government official told AFP.

Officials declined to say publicly when the NATO supply route could reopen despite local press reports that Pakistan and the United States are on the verge of a breakthrough.

"We are discussing it on a technical level, it is under discussion but let me say again -- no final decision has been taken yet," foreign ministry spokesman Moazzam Ahmad Khan told AFP.

On Saturday, Pakistan hosts the highest-level talks with NATO's International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and the Afghan military for a year, a further sign that momentum is building towards easing the deadlock.

US General John Allen, the ISAF commander in Afghanistan and Afghan army chief, General Sher Muhammad Karimi, will attend the talks at Pakistan's army headquarters in Rawalpindi, the military said.

"Talks will focus on enhancing efficiency of border coordination measures along the Pak-Afghan border and to improve multilateral mechanisms at operational and tactical levels," the military said.

Parliament last month approved new guidelines on relations with the United States, including a call for an end to drone strikes, which continue to target Al-Qaeda and Taliban operatives.

Analysts believe Islamabad has no choice but to reopen the border when US back-payments for fighting militants in the northwest, as part of the Coalition Support Fund, are needed to help boost state coffers ahead of the next budget.

Some officials are concerned by reported moves by a US House of Representatives panel to deny $800 million in aid to train and equip the Pakistani army in counter-insurgency.

"Pressure is coming, not only from Britain (given Gilani's visit to London) but from other key international players in Afghanistan for reopening the route," political analyst Hasan Askari said.

"I think the government should tell the US that we are conditionally reopening the route but that we will continue talking about other critical issues, such as drone strikes and readjustments (back payments) of the Coalition Support Fund," Askari told AFP.
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No invitation to the summit in US, new bill to reduce aid, alternative supply routes in place especially clandestine supplies from Iran, yeah they need to open supply routes or they become irrelevant.
 

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