Pakistan AWACs/AEW&Cs Aircrafts

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Airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) aircraft were first sought by the PAF in the 1980s, but the requirement was not met until December 2009 when the first of four Saab 2000 Erieye aircraft ordered in 2006 was delivered. The remaining three Erieye are expected to be delivered in 2010. Built to the PAF's specifications, the Saab 2000 Erieye is fitted with 5 operator stations and 4 command stations. The aircraft's Erieye radar has a range of 450 km and is also capable of identifying the type of aircraft and the weapons it is carrying.Erieye will be connected via data-link to the PAF's command and control ground environment as well as combat aircraft such as the F-16 Fighting Falcon
ISLAMABAD: The Pakistan Air Force last year received the Saab-2000 Airborne Early Warning and Control aircraft from Sweden.

With the induction of the Swedish system, PAF has become one of the few air forces in the world to have Airborne Early Warning capability. Besides detecting high- and medium-altitude aircraft, this state-of-the-art system is also capable of detecting low-level flying objects over land and sea at extended ranges. The system is capable of picking even the surface targets over the sea. By virtue of these features, PAF would be able to boost its operational capability manifold by achieving requisite early warning for efficient and meaningful air defence of its airspace.

The Erieye AEW&C mission system radar is an active, phased-array, pulse-Doppler sensor that can feed an onboard operator architecture or downlink data (via an associated datalink subsystem) to a ground-based air defence network. The system employs a large aperture, dual-sided antenna array housed in a dorsal 'plank' fairing. The antenna is fixed, and the beam is electronically scanned, which provides for improved detection and significantly enhanced tracking performance compared with radar-dome antenna systems.Erieye detects and tracks air and sea targets out to the horizon (and beyond due to anomalous propagation)—instrumented range has been measured at 450 km.
In early 2006, the Pakistan Air Force ordered six Erieye AEW equipped Saab 2000 from Sweden for roughly $1bn.[8] In December 2006, the Pakistan Navy requested three excess P-3 Orion aircraft to be equipped with Hawkeye 2000 AEW systems, the overall cost of the program is $855mn.[9] China and Pakistan also signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) for the joint development of AEW&C systems. A $278m deal has been struck with China.[10]
Sweden Finalizes AEW&C Contract With Pakistan

In June 2006, Saab signed a SEK 8.3 billion provisional contract to supply S100B Argus turboprop airborne early warning (AEW&C) systems to Pakistan. According to earlier reports at Pakistani Defence, Pakistan aimed to buy 14 SAAB 2000 aircraft from Sweden: 7 for the PAF's AEW&C role as Argus aircraft, and the remaining 7 for the state-owned PIA airline. Saab releases, however, have made no mention of a passenger version.

The Saab aircraft beat a number of other competitors, including Bombardier's Dash-8/Q200 and US offers to sell the E-2C Hawkeye system. The Argus AEW&C award also caps a 25-year quest by the Pakistani Air force. The buy was recently reduced somewhat for financial reasons to 5 aircraft, but the first plane has now been rolled out"¦.
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In "SAAB 2000 & ERIEYE AWE&C system,"a Pakistani government site explains the operational need for these aircraft, and chronicles their pursuit of the 707-based E-3C AWACS aircraft and related systems since 1979. Indeed, Pakistan had pursued the Erieye system before, but had been rejected several times under Sweden's military export policies. With that roadblock clear, Pakistan has engaged in long negotiations with Saab that have finally come to fruition. With respect to the new aircraft's radar capabilities, the article notes that:

"The Ericsson PS-890 Erieye radar uses an active array with 200 solid state modules. The range of the S-band, 3 GHz, and side looking radar is 300 km. The 1,985-lb (900-kg) dorsal antenna is housed in a 29-ft 6.3-in (9-m) long box radome mounted atop the fuselage. Utilizing adaptive side lobe suppression, the look angle on each side is about 160 degrees. From its standard operational altitude of 6000 metres (19,685 feet, or FL200) the radar has a maximum range of 450 km (279 miles). Against a fighter-sized target effective range is approximately 330 km (205 miles). Seaborne targets can be detected at 320 km (198 miles), though this is a function of the aircraft's cruising height. The electronically scanned antenna can scan sectors of interest frequently while others are monitored, and a single sector can be scanned in different modes at the same time."

That last bit is a reference to the AESA radar's ability to scan ground and air activity at the same time, rather than switching between these modes as conventional radars do. An Australian airpower article explains the potential benefits of AESA radars against other AEW&C offerings like the E-2C Hawkeye – and also notes the limitations of the S100B/Erieye system:

"The limitation of the two sided array is that it can only cover two 120 degree sectors abeam of the aircraft, leaving 60 degree blind sectors over the nose and tail of the aircraft, and reduced antenna performance from 45 degrees off the beam aspect. Another limitation stems from the use of an airframe too small to accommodate a comprehensive self contained command, control and communications system, and other sensors such as a capable ESM and track association system."

Saab's corporate release notes that "two third of the order value is for Saab and one third for Ericsson Microwave Systems [for the PS-890 Erieye radars], witch is, after the Saab acquisition, expected to be a part of Saab in September 2006." DID recently covered that acquisition.

April 24/10: Pakistan's 2nd of 4 Saab-2000 aircraft lands at an operational base, as preparations are made to induct it into the fleet. PTI.

Dec 14/09: Pakistan's Daily Times quotes Minister for Defence Production, Abdul Qayyum Khan Jatoi, who confirms that the 1st Erieye AWACS plane has reached Pakistan, and 3 more planes are expected in 2010. Karachi News.

Oct 21/09: In a ceremony in Linköping, Saab and the Pakistan Air Force celebrate the start of the final tests of the new Erieye AEW&C (Airborne Early Warning and Control) aircraft. The aircraft is currently undergoing system tests in Sweden, which aim is to evaluate the complete system including aircraft, radar, C2 system, communication and live situation picture. Follow on testing in Pakistan later in 2009, including integration into the Pakistan Air Force's Command & Control Ground Environment.

May 28/09: Pakistan's Chief of the Air Staff, Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, is quoted by Pakistan's The News International as saying that Pakistan would begin receiving its AWACS planes by October 2009.

April 3/08: China's government-controlled Xinhua reports that the first Saab 2000 Erieye aircraft for the PAF was rolled out in Sweden and prepared for flight trials by the year end, after being equipped with a full suite of mission systems. "The Pakistan Air Force achieved a major landmark in its Airborne Early Warning Program with the roll out of its first Saab 2000 AEW&C in a simple but impressive ceremony at the Saab facility in Sweden," the PAF statement said.

The aircraft will be put through trials before being delivered to the PAF in 2009. See also Flight International's photo coverage, which puts the total number of Saab 2000 aircraft at 5.

May 28/07: Maybe not quite finalized. A Saab release states that:

"With reference to the sale of Saab Airborne Surveillance Systems to Pakistan, the customer has for financial reasons and in accordance with the original contract, asked to renegotiate part of the contract concerning a reduction of the number of systems. Together with Saab terms and conditions then have been agreed, concerning a reduction. Saab and the Government of Pakistan continue as planned with the delivery of the system.

As a result of the renegotiation, the order value is decreased by approximately SEK 1.35 billion [DID 8.3B – 1.35B = 6.95B, a 16.3% reduction and about $1 billion at a May 28 conversion]. Income will decrease proportionally to the volume change, but other commercial terms and conditions will remain unchanged."

The number of planes in the revised order was not specified, but a later report placed the total number of Saab 2000 aircraft in the revised order at 5. If the original order had been 6, a 16.3% reduction is about right.

June 22/06: Saab announces a SEK 8.3 billion (approx. $1.15 billion at then-rate conversion) provisional contract for Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) surveillance systems using Saab 2000 turboprops equipped with Ericsson's Erieye radar.

"Two third of the order value is for Saab and one third for Ericsson Microwave Systems, witch is, after the Saab acquisition, expected to be a part of Saab in September 2006."
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Pakistan, China ink deal to develop long-range radar
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Islamabad, November 24, 2006
First Published: 11:49 IST(24/11/2006)
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Pakistan and China have agreed to jointly develop long-range radar-equipped early warning aircraft, the Pakistan Air Force said on Friday in a statement. The announcement came during a visit to the country by Chinese President Hu Jintao in which the two allies are expected to discuss expanding ties in the defence, nuclear, economic and trade sectors.


The Pakistan Air Force and Chinese Aviation Industries agreed "for long term collaboration and co-development in the fields of aircraft manufacturing and other related fields including AWACS," the PAF said.

It said a Memorandum of Understanding was signed in Islamabad between the PAF and the Chinese Aviation Company, CETC, for the improvement and further development of Chinese Airborne Early Warning System.

"The same may be delivered to Pakistan in coming years," the statement said.
Pakistan, China ink deal to develop long-range radar - Hindustan Times
 

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ZDK-03 Y8F-400 AEW

The ZDK-03 system is an advanced Airborne Warning and Control System [AWACS] with sophisticated integrated sensors and communications suite. The type is a new variant of the Shaanxi Y8 AEW&C aircraft designed specifically for Pakistan. Islamabad had ordered four ZDK-03s on order, with deliveries starting in late 2010. In parallel with the KJ-200 (Y8 'Balance Beam'), the Chinese aircraft industry developed and built a further AWACS version of the Cub referred to in some sources as the Y-8 AEW (Airborne Early Warning).

The PAF signed a contract in 2008 with China Electronics Technology Group Corporation [CETC] for the joint development of four ZDK-03 AWACS aircraft (ZDK means CETC) configured to Pakistan's specifications. The radar was designed by the Research Institute of Electronic Technology (also more commonly known as the 14th Institute) at Nanjing, and it utilizes the experience gained from the 14th Institute's earlier indigenously developed Type H/LJG-346 SAPARS (Shipborne Active Phased Array Radar System) that was completed in 1998.

The existence of the conventional AWACS derivative became known in 2005. The actual prototype wearing a civilian-style blue/white color scheme and the test serial 'T0518 Red' is based on the radar-nosed Y8F-400 ('Category II Platform'). Contrary to some sources, the first prototype base aircraft was not the Y8F-600 ('Category III Platform'), though this platform with six-blade engines was used for later aircraft. The aircraft has a conventional 'saucer' rotodome mounted aft of the wings on twin inward-canted pylons; the greater part of the rotodome is dielectric. The Chinese aircraft is powered by four turboprop engines and has a greater range than offered by the Saab Microwave Systems Erieye. The aircraft nose was shorter and improved from usual glass-fared nose, like the Y-8F400 or Y-8-X, however the engine are not changed. A canoe shaped dome like E-8's array-phased antenna is located between the front and rear landing gears. The platform is characterized by the triple tail configuration (one large and two small), which was added for flight stability after the installation of new radar antenna.

Previously Pakistan bought Swedish Saab-2000 early warning airborne aircraft but the ZDK-03 is a much sophisticated aircraft with a well equipped equipment and also has the capability to remain airborne for longer duration than the Saab-2000.

The rollout ceremony of first Chinese ZDK-03 AWACS aircraft for Pakistan Air Force was held at Hanzhong, China on 13 November 2010. Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff, Pakistan Air Force was the Chief Guest on the occasion. The ceremony was attended by Commander PLA Air Force and other senior military and civil officials of China, a press release by PAF said. Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman speaking on the occasion described this occasion as another milestone in the exemplary history of cooperation between Pakistan and China.

He appreciated the efforts put in by all members of the Chinese team and Pakistan Air Force personnel who remained involved in the development of the system and its timely rollout. During his speech, he also emphasized on the long and enduring relationship between Pakistan and China. He said this system will strengthen the capabilities of the Pakistan Air Force to maintain peace with honour in the region. He also added that system is part of the overall Pakistan Air Force strategy of transforming its self into a lean and technologically advanced Air Force. The Chief of the Air Staff also assured the nation that Pakistan Air Force would not spare any effort to make the defence of the country impregnable.

Chairman CETC Mr. Wang Zhigang in his speech said "China and Pakistan have formed a special all-weather strategic partnership. Our cooperation is based on time honoured brotherhood which is not going to fade with passing time. ZDK-03 project is a milestone in the bilateral collaboration on national defence technology. It has received special attention and all time support from Government and Armed Forces of both countries. It is the best symbol of joint efforts made by national defence researchers from both sides.

"I firmly believe the induction of Karakoram Eagle will be a positive impact on regional stability, peace and prosperity as well as, on the close bond between two military forces and two countries. ZDK-03 Project will be remembered and recorded in the history of China - Pakistan friendship, and it will be a new symbol of the all round strategic partnership of the two countries".

In the last 20 years, the countries are involved in the joint venture of several projects to enhance military and weaponry systems, which includes JF-17 Thunder fighter aircraft, K-8 Karakorum advance training aircraft, space technology, AWACS, Al-Khalid tank and light frigates. Pakistan's move to source AEW&C aircraft from both China and the West is indicative of its strategy to refrain from being overly reliant on any one ally. The USA imposed military sanctions against Pakistan from 1990 to 2005 in response to its testing nuclear weapons.
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Key performance data

Max endurance > 9.5 hours
Max range > 2,000 NM
Time to climb 25,000 ft* 15 min
Cruise speed 340 knots (TAS)
Patrol speed 160 knots (IAS)
Takeoff distance 1,400 m
Service ceiling 30,000 ft


*Radar operational three mins after takeoff and during climb

Radar system performance
Active phased-array pulse-doppler multi-mode radar
450 km range and above 20 km (65,000 ft) altitude coverage
Effective surveillance area of 500,000 km2
Combined air and sea surveillance
Automatic tracking of priority air targets
Identification friend-or-foe (I

FF) syste m
Saab 2000 ERIEYE AEW&C - Technical specifications
 

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what role pakistan will play in this venture???
funding
since this project was based on older kj200 but this was developed as per requirements of paf with paf inputs

while since this was a jv
pak engineers might have not contributed to this project but must have learnt alot

with China help and our engineer whom were involved in the project we May even manufacture zdk03 in home once the Nescom electronics complex is completed.

Pakistan contributed less but learnt alot and got a better platform as well than the expansive saab 2000
 

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by sapper about paf choosing the saab 2000

Erieye has been mounted atop three platforms as of now ... Saab340, Saab2000, and EMB145(EM-R99). These were all civilian passenger crafts and their standard seating capcities, cruise speed, ranges, and approximate flight endurance are as below

Saab-340 ---------- 37 passengers ---------- 460kph ---------- 1700km ---------- ~4 hrs
EMB-145 ----------- 44~50 passengers ----- 820kph --------- 3700km ---------- ~5 hrs
Saab-2000 -------- 50~58 passengers ----- 680kph ---------- 3600km ---------- 9.5 hrs

I think PAF made the best possible choice ... we have to optimize endurance and cut down flight costs, because we dont have a large enough country to justify EMB-145 selection based on just 140kph speed difference.

As for EM195, Saab has chosen not to use larger jet to keep costs of acquisition & operation as low as possible while providing maximum functionality onboard as well as on ground.

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funding
since this project was based on older kj200 but this was developed as per requirements of paf with paf inputs

while since this was a jv
pak engineers might have not contributed to this project but must have learnt alot

with China help and our engineer whom were involved in the project we May even manufacture zdk03 in home once the Nescom electronics complex is completed.

Pakistan contributed less but learnt alot and got a better platform as well than the expansive saab 2000


mazak mat karo bhai
 

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mazak mat karo bhai
plz dont ruin this thread

yes funded by Pakistan
The Pakistan Air Force has received its first Chinese-built ZDK-03 AWACS aircraft.

November 15: The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) received its first Chinese-built ZDK-03 Advanced Warning & Control Systems (AWACS) aircraft on November 13 at a ceremony at Hanzhong in China attended by Air Chief Marshal Rao Qamar Suleman, Chief of the Air Staff for the PAF.

CETC of China is building four aircraft for the PAF from a $278 million (€204 million) contract signed in 2008. The ZDK-03 is a variant of the Shaanxi Y-8, itself a derivative of the Soviet-designed Antonov An-12 transport aircraft and has a Chinese Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, reported to have a greater range than that of the PAF's Saab 2000 Erieye system.

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I expect its a good idea for Pakistan to buy Chinese equipment, I dont think Americans would be motivated to do their best by maintaining Pakistan Military Equipment any more, I know I wouldnt.
 

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why PAF not going for KJ 2000 ???



this is remotely close to what is with IAF.
 

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why PAF not going for KJ 2000 ???



this is remotely close to what is with IAF.

more expansive
acquiring il76 might be a problem

considering the airspace zdk03 and Erieye are enough

by next year we might have all those 8 awacs in service but we need Atleast 15 awacs in total(only i think so)

15 awacs should be the target for 2020-25.and this is pretty much Possible as we will have 8 awacs in service by 2013
 

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I expect its a good idea for Pakistan to buy Chinese equipment, I dont think Americans would be motivated to do their best by maintaining Pakistan Military Equipment any more, I know I wouldnt.
while purchasing American equipment was the biggest mistake pak has ever made
ALWAYS PRONE KO SANCTIONS
such as in the case of f16
 

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can you give break down of different AWAC with PAF.
3 erieye(yes 3 not 2.3rd one receiving announcement was not done but i can post pictures of 3 pakistani Erieye with different serial numbers but not now because the pdf site down)

2 zdk03 already in service while picture of third one in China emerged few months before.delivery of all to be completed by 2013

a total of 8 by 2013 end

After that paf might order more as well
since zdk03 is now like local stuff aka jft
 

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p2prada@@@

i Am 100% sure that sapper said zdk03 has aesa radar

he further explained unlike kj2000 it doesnt provide full 360 degree coverage each seconds because it has only 2 aesa radar while the kj2000 has 3
 

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i Am 100% sure that sapper said zdk03 has aesa radar

he further explained unlike kj2000 it doesnt provide full 360 degree coverage each seconds because it has only 2 aesa radar while the kj2000 has 3
I don't know who Sapper is, but fine, I will take your word for it.

As for the array distribution, yeah there are two and the dome rotates for a 360 degree capability. The radar itself works in different modes, so there will be 360 degree capability in some modes and no 360 degree capability in some. It works something like the E-2C/D.

So, I can tell you one thing. While there may be a PESA or AESA, whatever is fine. The AWACS will have 360 degree capability.

Maybe he is talking about the KJ-200 with the Balance Beam structure.

KJ-2000/Phalcon have 3 arrays because they are on larger aircraft and the size of the dome is big enough to house the 3 large arrays. The arrays on the ZDK-03 will be a little smaller and fit 2. It is fine. It does not degrade capability as much in some modes, but a lot of special features will be missing like Over the Horizon capability.
 

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I don't know who Sapper is, but fine, I will take your word for it.

As for the array distribution, yeah there are two and the dome rotates for a 360 degree capability. The radar itself works in different modes, so there will be 360 degree capability in some modes and no 360 degree capability in some. It works something like the E-2C/D.

So, I can tell you one thing. While there may be a PESA or AESA, whatever is fine. The AWACS will have 360 degree capability.

Maybe he is talking about the KJ-200 with the Balance Beam structure.

KJ-2000/Phalcon have 3 arrays because they are on larger aircraft and the size of the dome is big enough to house the 3 large arrays. The arrays on the ZDK-03 will be a little smaller and fit 2. It is fine. It does not degrade capability as much in some modes, but a lot of special features will be missing like Over the Horizon capability.
good info
while there are no official specs of zdk03 except the official said that the range is better than Erieye(obviously they operate both platform there info must be more accurate)

even if the range is same it still holds edge over friend for paf

*more coverage
*less expansive
*the upgraded y8 is a better platform than saab 2000 with a much greater range
*reliable source
 

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3 erieye(yes 3 not 2.3rd one receiving announcement was not done but i can post pictures of 3 pakistani Erieye with different serial numbers but not now because the pdf site down)

2 zdk03 already in service while picture of third one in China emerged few months before.delivery of all to be completed by 2013

a total of 8 by 2013 end

After that paf might order more as well
since zdk03 is now like local stuff aka jft
here is Saab inventory of PAF

Serial C/N Previous Identity Status

J-019....019.....ex SE-019 (non-AEW&C)



J-025 025 ex SE-025, LV-SBC


J-040 040 ex SE-040, F-GMVE



J-045 045 ex SE-045, LV-SBW



J-049....049.....ex SE-049, F-GMVG.....Still with Saab



Lets see what number PAF release for the media and their general public, it will be interesting to see.
from this thread
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/pakistan/40464-kamra-air-force-base-pakistan-under-siege-9.html
 

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