PAK-TA Transport Aircraft

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Future Russian army could deploy anywhere in the world – in 7 hours

In the future, a fleet of heavy transport aircraft will reportedly be capable of moving a strategic unit of 400 Armata tanks, with ammunition, to anywhere in the world. And probably at hypersonic speed, enabling Russia to mount a global military response.

According to a new design specification from the Military-Industrial Commission in Moscow, a transport aircraft, dubbed PAK TA, will fly at supersonic speeds (up to 2,000 km/h) and will boast an impressively high payload of up to 200 tons. It will also have a range of at least 7,000 kilometers.

The PAK TA program envisages 80 new cargo aircraft to be built by 2024. This means in a decade Russia's Central Command will be able to place a battle-ready armored army anywhere, Expert Online reports, citing a source in the military who attended the closed meeting.

West says propoganda

Is Russia building a new supersonic aircraft?

ACCORDING to a Kremlin propaganda media outlet, Russia plans to be able to deploy its army anywhere in the world within seven hours. It's a future that involves a fleet of huge heavy transport aircraft that will be capable of moving around 400 Armata tanks, with ammunition anywhere in the world.
According to the Military-Industrial Commission in Moscow, a new aircraft, named the PAK TA, will be capable of flying supersonic speeds (up to 1235km/h), can carry up to 200 tonnes and have a range of at least 7,000 kilometres. Or roughly the distance between Sydney and Hong Kong.
Russia is supposedly hopeful to build 80 of the new PAK TA cargo aircraft by 2024.

However, pulling such a heavy weight at such at supersonic speeds has made many people sceptical. Not only that, the weight and size would require extremely large purpose built runways as well as consume a ridiculous amount of fuel, which would again limit where the aircraft could take off from. Not to mention its wingspan, making it an easy target for enemy forces.
It does fall in line with Russia's goals of modernising its ageing airfleet within the next 10 years. The country has dedicated over $US130 billon through to 2020 in modernising its large air force.
Even if such technology was possible, Russia has been having massive problems with its next generation fighter, the T50. The Indian air force is reporting that the joint India-Russian jet still suffers from major engine and stealth problems, despite being towards the end of its development.
400 tanks will allegedly fit in a fleet of the aircraft.
If the aircraft is more than just a propaganda ploy, this is what RT News claims.
In my opinion Russia alone can't finance such a huge project, they'll rope in China more likely rather than India if something is happening.
 
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Yeah that'd be great, its a nice peek to what future transport would look like and I am wondering what US has in the bag.
Changed it. I saw the news earlier, but did not post a thread because it is a lot of conceptual graphics, and still far away from reality.
 

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The shape is nice. Russia should build the plane with high subsonic speed. A supersonic transport is not needed.
 

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I think Soviet has great aviation legacy, this plane just reminds me of over ambitious German aviation projects.
Soviet ambitions sometimes were even greater than German. And Soviet bombers were larger and had longer range.

In 1941 70 Soviet bombers had bombed Berlin, while Germans had no comparable bombers which could be able to bomb Moscow in the same way.

This planes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_DB-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petlyakov_Pe-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yermolayev_Yer-2

Germans had no analogues.

So your comparison makes absolutely no sense.
 

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Soviet ambitions sometimes were even greater than German. And Soviet bombers were larger and had longer range.

In 1941 70 Soviet bombers had bombed Berlin, while Germans had no comparable bombers which could be able to bomb Moscow in the same way.

This planes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilyushin_DB-3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petlyakov_Pe-8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yermolayev_Yer-2

Germans had no analogues.

So your comparison makes absolutely no sense.
Well I thought more about the "AmerikaBomber" like JU390, which maybe was over ambitious. On second thought, US had long range B-29´s, which worked and bombed Japan far away. You guys even reverse engineered it. Maybe this supersonic plane is feasible, even if at first thought it seems over ambitious. Without aiming high, you cannot achieve anything.

I liked how wikipedia named Finland as one of the main users of DB-3, we maybe had few war trophy planes, if it is enough to be one of primary users, so be it. Just like war trophy T-34´s were the backbone of our panzer division. Well, small has to be imaginative.
 

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Well I thought more about the "AmerikaBomber" like JU390, which maybe was over ambitious. On second thought, US had long range B-29´s, which worked and bombed Japan far away. You guys even reverse engineered it. Maybe this supersonic plane is feasible, even if at first thought it seems over ambitious. Without aiming high, you cannot achieve anything.

I liked how wikipedia named Finland as one of the main users of DB-3, we maybe had few war trophy planes, if it is enough to be one of primary users, so be it. Just like war trophy T-34´s were the backbone of our panzer division. Well, small has to be imaginative.
Check that out also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zveno_project
Tupolev ANT-25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Germans had not implemented anything like that. Soviets had much more impressive results in long-range aviation projects compared to Germans, especially in 30-th. Long distances and tough environment of distant regions of or country demanded this type of planes - there are plenty of things to be proud of. Sure, in 40-th Americans outperformed everyone else in it, cause they made "bombing everything back to Stonehenge" their primary strategy.
 

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Check that out also:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zveno_project
Tupolev ANT-25 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Germans had not implemented anything like that. Soviets had much more impressive results in long-range aviation projects compared to Germans, especially in 30-th. Long distances and tough environment of distant regions of or country demanded this type of planes - there are plenty of things to be proud of. Sure, in 40-th Americans outperformed everyone else in it, cause they made "bombing everything back to Stonehenge" their primary strategy.
Yes, Soviets were leading the pack in so many fields in 20s and 30s. Nostalgic times. One of my favorire artist also:

 

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