Pak revives 8-country grouping to counter India in Afghanistan

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the last time i Looked India has more cultural links and Historic links with Afghanistan then what the Pakistanis think they conveniently forgot the fact that Afghanistan was the only country to vote no for the Inclusion of Pakistan in the UN and also they ( the Afghans )
also do not recognize the Durand Line and besides this conference is a total sham why dint they call Afghanistan for a supposed "meeting" on Afghanistan's Future

Anyways we have 3 million afghan PUSHTOON living in Pakistan,40% of our Population has ethnic ties with them plus we have religious and cultural ties with them.Relatives living on the afghan side of the border and durad line was a problem they had with BRITISH indian raj not us(Pakistan).And sir INDIA and SHUMALI ITEHAD were the ones who supported and invited USSR INVASION and OCCUPATION into afghanistan.The sir right now the people and army in government are shumalis not PUSHTON your SHUMALI ITEHAD consistist of TAJIK,UZBEKS AND HAZARS minorities that are not liked by majority of 60%AFGHAN meaning PUSHTONs.Now let me ask the same questions what do u have common with AFGHANs??NOTHING except Translated BOOLY MOVIES with Pakistani songs?
And about what we think of Afghanistan is none of your buissness AFGHANISTAN is independant on pakistan for everything from wheat to vegetable also its Bad or Good scenerios somehow directly and indirectly effect PAKISTAN,And same goes the opposite way.
 
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Is Afghanistan an independent country?? If Pakistan truly has such great ties to the Pashtuns as the Pakistanis claim the why partner with USA in slaughtering Pashtuns in Afghanistan??
 
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Sir when have we sent our army to Slaughter them?or are you accusing usa of Slaughtering them?which side are you on sir coz sometimes your talking how cruel taliban are and now you are talking about USA slaughtering pashtons?
 
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very simple USA is fighting a war in Afghanistan. Pakistan is USA'S ally in the war. USA is killing Taliban. Taliban are ethnic Pashtuns. Pakistan is not responsible?? USA is doing it alone?? Pakistan is just a bystander ?? The truth is Pakistan is totally responsible for the war against the Afghans without Pakistans full support USA would not be able to wage the war,
 
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So now taliban are GOOD for india??Do you like taliban sir??should we help them instead of killing the BAD taliban sir??And yes we do support the good taliban and so does USA thats why they are offering them to join the government and we are with US on this matter so what the problem?
 
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firstly define good taliban?? If Karzai is defining good taliban that is valid but how does Pakistan choose the good and bad taliban?? Pakistan is a separate country waging war against Afghanistan and choosing who is good and bad in an independent country. The Taliban are not the main issue if the Taliban were so bad then 500,000 pakistani troops should have been more effective against the rag tag bunch. The issue is the destruction of a nation, leaving Pakistan's involvement with the Taliban aside if Paksiatn had truly wanted to rid the taliban they should have been able to do so after 8 years but if their should be a good taliban or a bad taliban is a decision that should be made by the Afghans and not outside interference.
 

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Viper, first as the pashtoons where their loyalty lies. They care a damn about pakistan. They want their own independent nation.
 

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Salam SSG Shab just because Pashtoons make up a vast majority of the Population in the frontier areas that dosent mean that they are loyal to you by any yard stick then if that is so then why dont you go and try to enforce Pakistani laws in the mountains even your army is scared shitless to go to the frontier

we have religious and cultural ties with them

ah the religious card a potent pakistani card just to refresh you the pashtoons see themselves as one nation.
and not as pakistani or afghanis but as one

and besides when did pakistan come along in this dammed equation. Mr Viper lets see hmmm..... ah yes a mear 60 years back
so that makes your so called "religious and cultural ties " a bunch of useless retoric.

INDIA and SHUMALI ITEHAD were the ones who supported and invited USSR INVASION and OCCUPATION
it is a fact that India recognized the DPRA goverment but do you know a fact that even during the war we provided health and other facilites to the Mujahids in delhi ( I shall give you the Link in due course of time )

Translated BOOLY MOVIES with Pakistani songs?
what bloody Poppycock is that every third bloody song is sung by a pakistani :rofl:

about what we think of Afghanistan is none of your buissness
so how come it is china business please enlighten me

and what can you give afghanistan taliban and terrorist ???

my dear child please read some History on Indo Afghan relations and what is India in the region and all that

I shall still be wating to answer all your quaries

allha hafiz
 

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It was pak that creater taliban. after the soviets left the region, your so called pashtuns were fighting amongst themselves to gain control. various groups and their warlords fought each other with funding from muslim countries. pak and saudi arabia funded the taliban who eventually captured power in kabul. pak's basic agenda to fund taliban was to help it control afghan. so in short pakistan were trying to grab some land that wasnt yours in the first place. something pak doing in kashmir.

regarding pakistans fake love for pashtuns, pak did help taliban fight and kill other groups including the northern alliance who some were pashtuns. Get you facts straight , pak supported a radical group not a race.
 

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Pulling out from Astan is just not an option. india has to play the game well. Karzai is proving to be a baffoon. And the US is again on the path of short sighted policy by playing the good taliban theory. India has to protect its interests at all cost
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Funny enough it was reported that our government is willing to "try the good Taliban". Wonder what that is. From the looks of it, I think Kasab and Yasin Malik would be given MLA status and Mulla Omar would be holding talks with Manmohan Singh in Delhi. After the Kasab drama that has been going on along with Afzal Guru, I won't be surprised of our government doing this as well...:-D
 

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And sir INDIA and SHUMALI ITEHAD were the ones who supported and invited USSR INVASION and OCCUPATION into afghanistan.
Are you for real? The Soviet invasion was not on our invitation but on the invitation of the failing Najibullah government of Afghanistan. We merely supported Soviet view of the war because of or alliance with them.

Anyways we have 3 million afghan PUSHTOON living in Pakistan,40% of our Population has ethnic ties with them plus we have religious and cultural ties with them.Relatives living on the afghan side of the border and durad line was a problem they had with BRITISH indian raj not us(Pakistan)
And yet Pakistanis don't refrain from criticizing Afghans, degrading them and accusing them of terrorist attacks, which are actually emanating from your own territory. Wonder if this is the love you show with commonality, what you would show if you were totally different. By the way, the British Raj comprised of what is today Pakistan as well, in case you were not made aware of that.

And about what we think of Afghanistan is none of your buissness AFGHANISTAN is independant on pakistan for everything from wheat to vegetable also its Bad or Good scenerios somehow directly and indirectly effect PAKISTAN,And same goes the opposite way
Certainly. Afghanistan was made dependent on Pakistan because of your country's harboring of Taliban. Prior to the Soviet invasion and Taliban's terror, Afghanistan had its own fields, agriculture and infrastructure with limited instability. Afghanistan effects the whole region in the same way as it "effects" Pakistan. India has formal cordial relations with Afghanistan and the region is one of the few truly friendly countries to India other than Nepal and Bhutan. The reason why they came to Pakistan was because there was no other country around with commonness. If your government had not instigated the Taliban menace on Afghans in the first place, they won't have even bothered looking at your country.

Now let me ask the same questions what do u have common with AFGHANs??NOTHING except Translated BOOLY MOVIES with Pakistani songs?
What "Pakistani" songs do Bollywood movies have? If you are referring to the fact that singers like Atif Aslam and Adnan Sami (who is a Canadian citizen) sing in Bollywood, they do so because our industry allows them to do it. The fame Atif Aslam earned worldwide was because Indian industries gave him the reach to outside world. Trust me, Bollywood is in no shortage of singing talent from India since we have more than a billion citizens out of which many can sing better than Atif Aslam.
 

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So now taliban are GOOD for india??Do you like taliban sir??should we help them instead of killing the BAD taliban sir??And yes we do support the good taliban and so does USA thats why they are offering them to join the government and we are with US on this matter so what the problem?
Taliban was, is and never will be good just because a few politicians managed to gain limelight by talking about them. The whole ideology of Taliban is that of brute terrorism and doesn't adhere to civilized human life. You would be seeing a completely new reaction from these very politicians if even one more of a fraction of 9/11 or 26/11 happened anywhere around the world. Don't take their words so intently to your heart.
 

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