Pak Navy to build nuclear submarine in 5 years.

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you are all underestimating Pak's capability they ate grass a Nuke bomb, now will even eat pig's shit for a nuke sub and why to bother about money as long as they have got IMF and US for funds....
 

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with Nuke submarine Pakistan can take on USA and even China. Ok all the countries fund needs to put into nuke submarine project including the money made by the Army.
 

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You guys are missing the point. The news is smokescreen for China to build them a couple of nuke subs or gift them old ones. The chimps are at it again. GOI must confront these CCP clowns.
 

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It means that they have already received a nuclear submarine and its manual so they said that they need 5 years to translate the buttons and guide into Urdu and paint it in green
last time it happen in 1998 when they took time to translate the chines nuke manual for their nuke test after failed attempt.
 

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Aren't such type of projects top secret?

Maybe I think its more to have a nuke sub built in pakistan, than being tranported from China to pakistan by chinese.
 

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Pakistan Navy NOT Developing Nuclear Power Submarines – DG PR (Navy)
February 12, 2012By Ghulam Sarwar



Islamabad - Media reports on Feb 11 state the Pakistan Navy intends to build nuclear-powered submarines as a matter of priority. No sources were quoted in the reports, which indicated the first submarine would be operational in five to eight years.

When PakSoldiers.Com contacted DG PR (Navy) Commodore Irfan ul Haq, he rejected all the reports circulating in the Media about Nuclear Submarines.

Pakistan Navy NOT Developing Nuclear Power Submarines - DG PR (Navy) | PakSoldiers
 
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Pakistani Navy to Develop Nuclear-Powered Submarines

Pakistani Navy to Develop Nuclear-Powered Submarines: Reports | Defense News | defensenews.com


ISLAMABAD — Media reports on Feb. 11 state the Pakistan Navy intends to build nuclear-powered submarines as a matter of priority.

No sources were quoted in the reports, which indicated the first submarine would be operational in five to eight years.

When contacted by Defense News, a spokesman for the Pakistani Navy said he could not comment as to the veracity of the reports.

Mansoor Ahmed, a lecturer at Islamabad's Quaid-e-Azam University who specializes in nonconventional weapons and missiles, believes the reports are the result of a calculated leak by the Navy, and that a message may be being sent to India.

"This news "¦ appears to be some kind of signaling to the Indians seeing as they are taking delivery of a new nuclear-powered submarine from the Russians as well as their own Arihant Class SSBN," he said.

"So Pakistan is signaling to the Indians that they are mindful of these developments and taking due measures in response."

Ahmed said he has for some time believed Pakistan was working on a nuclear propulsion system for submarine applications and that Pakistan already has a functional submarine launched variant of the Babur cruise missile.

The Babur cruise missile is very similar to the U.S. BGM-109 Tomahawk, and perhaps derives at least some technology from Tomahawks which crashed in Pakistan during U.S. strikes on al-Qaida training camps in Afghanistan in 1998. It can be armed with conventional or nuclear warheads.

Ahmed believes Pakistan is now gearing up to build its own SSN/SSGN flotilla as a way of deterring India and maintaining the strategic balance in South Asia.

However, in the long term in order to fully ensure the credibility of its deterrent Ahmed said he believes Pakistan should build ballistic missile submarines.
 

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They will have to get the spanners and nuts and bolts and then assemble a derelict Chinese sub sent to them as CKD kit.

And then of course they will have to hunt for the paint to paint their flag!

It sure will take them 05 years to do so!
 

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That doesn't seems a realistic deadline to build a nuclear submarine from scratch. They wanna going to import chinese sub and then would re-assemble it and paste their "Made in Pakistan" tag. Good Luck for Paki Friends. :p
 

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While we are busy bashing this report, it is important to know if deep sea radar network task is completed by IN or not. Last time we checked, dozens of jihadis landed up on our coast and after year or so couple of abandoned ships slipped through surveillance to say hello to Mumbai again !
 

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Pakistan's Nuclear Submarine Project

20/2/2012

In late 2011 an internet rumor spread about Pakistan's development of nuclear submarines and in early 2012, we have heard major news networks in Pakistan announce the development of Pakistan's nuclear submarines "in 5-8 years". The earliest news of Pakistan's nuclear submarine project was in 2006 when General Musharraf announced that Pakistan now has the technology to build nuclear submarines.


The first point to ponder is that Pakistan, unlike certain other countries, prefers to develop weapon systems quietly. If this kind of announcements are coming out, it all probability Pakistan already has a nuclear submarine, or at minimum critical components, well underway. The most critical component is the nuclear power plant, and the news thus points to the development of a miniature power plant.

RUMINT suggests that Pakistan's nuclear submarine is likely to be based on the Qing Class Chinese SSK, which Pakistan is believed to receive 6 units of. Given the giant size of the Qing Class (5,000-6,000 tons), the submarine is ideally suited as the basis for a Pakistani SSN / SSBN. RUMINT also suggests that Pakistan is seeking a smaller sized nuclear sub that sacrifices speed for simplicity and ease of maintenance. The basic idea is that instead of hydraulic propulsion, the Pakistani subs will utilize an all-electric propulsion system that is charged by the nuclear power plant.


Such an arrangement fits in perfectly for the following reasons:

1. Pakistani SSNs/SSBNs do not need to keep up with a carrier group or large-scale task force; They are likely to operate solo, making the loss of possibly 3-5 knots in speed less relevant.

2. The Qing Class (and other SSKs) already have a highly advanced electric propulsion system. The Pakistani nuclear submarine would thus be a replacement of the diesel engine power generation with a nuclear power plant.

3. Electric propulsion has traditionally lagged behind hydraulic propulsion, but recent advances in the former has significantly reduced the gap in performance between the two.

4. Sets up future improvements in technology which are headed towards magnetohydrodynamic propulsion, saving on investment in hydraulic submarine propulsion which would have been a technological end investment.

Taking a closer look at the possible type of nuclear power plant to be utilized, it is likely to be a small pressurized light water reactor.Such a reactor would require some R&D given that Pakistan does not have much expertise in light water reactors, and because the need for miniaturization. However, given Chinese expertise and potential assistance, this should not prove to be a difficult challenge to overcome. Moreover, Pakistan has a highly qualified and competent nuclear establishment that should be able to meet the challenge.

Another potential help may have been the transfer of technology from France with the Agosta 90B submarine purchase. A number of key technologies were transferred including design and development skills and tools. Building of hulls and experience with Western subsystems, many of which are used in the French nuclear submarines would help the Pakistani SSN / SSBN, if it already has not found its way to the Chinese Qing Class.

In sum, while India is preparing her first indigenous nuclear submarine, Pakistan is well underway in making an equivalent capability upgrade. While the time-frame given in the media is 5-8 years, it is very possible that Pakistan is capable of building and fielding such a submarine in 3-5 years. The timeline for building and deploying such a sub is mainly dependent on how quickly and successfully the Indian nuclear submarine program is able to field and operate a submarine.

Grande Strategy
 

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well we will wait for the next 5 years

but what Pakistan has give back to china against the sub
 

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