I agree we literally have ZERO second Strike Capability, Nuclear Submarine in present situation only means we are serious about Second Strike Capability, lets wait & see but to be honest I am stunned to hear about Pakistani Nuclear Submarine, our Navy is the most 'outgunned' force out of three forces, Nuclear Submarine, awwww Seriously PN with Nuclear Submarine, where's my inhaler, lolzzz
The navy is ok your diesel sub program is ok and for a country pakistan's size and economy no one else has this many diesel electric subs, but nuclear subs are a whole different ball game I posted a link above where countries cannot work together to make nuclear subs even Brazil and France have not advanced on this, so I doubt Pakistan will reach this stage any time soon , with a nuclear sub program will come a whole new set of costs and challenges, the bigger powers would also have to accept Pakistan becoming a blue water navy.
http://kuku.sawf.org/Articles/59935.aspx
Brazil's nuclear submarine deal with France has lessons for India
September 08, 2009, (Sawf News) - Brazil and France signed a strategic defense cooperation agreement on September 3 under which France will assist Brazil in the construction of state-of-the-art conventional and nuclear submarines.
The agreement covers the construction of four conventional submarines and a comprehensive technology transfer program to assist Brazil in the construction of the non-nuclear portion of its first nuclear-powered submarine.
The conventional submarines will feature some of the most advanced technology available in the world.
"These vessels will feature advanced technologies and innovations developed in recent years for French Navy programs, particularly with regard to hydrodynamics, acoustic discretion, automation and combat systems," said Admiral Júlio Soares de Moura Neto, Commander in Chief of the Brazilian Navy.
"They will also be designed for ease of maintenance, the key to improved operational availability."
The submarines will be built by Itaguaà Construções Navais, a joint venture set up by DCNS and Brazilian partner Odebrecht in late August. The joint venture has an initial capital of 10 million reals and will be responsible for management control. Odebrecht has a 59% interest and DCNS the remaining 41%. Through Itaguaà Construções Navais, the program will provide employment for over 700 people in Brazil over a period of 15 years.
The agreement between France and Brazil has lessons for India whose past pursuit of advanced defense technology has been characterized by a perplexing mix of secrecy, visions of grandeur and misplaced sense of national pride. After years of fitful progress and heavy expenses such projects have usually ended with an outright purchase of foreign technology.
Many such quixotic pursuits have left the defense forces enfeebled over the years, though DRDO, which has executed these projects, has burgeoned in size and clout.
So far DRDO has managed to easily get funding for its projects by stoking national pride and hyping the caliber of its scientists, equating intelligence to technology. However, as its size has grown, DRDO's incompetence has become increasingly evident. The nation now realizes that advanced technology can only emerges from an advanced technological base that is grounded on commercial viability. Defense projects cannot be equated with class room projects to encourage ideas and innovations. They must make the nation stronger, not weaker.
Thankfully, new hi-tech defense projects are increasingly being implemented as commercial collaborative ventures in India.
In the Brazilian deal, it is interesting how France's DCNS will retain 41% ownership of the joint venture with the Brazilian entity.
DCNS will act as design authority and prime contractor for the construction of the four conventional-propulsion submarines to be built by Itaguaà Construções Navais. DCNS plants and shipyards will supply a range of advanced-technology items.
Had an Indian entity entered into a similar arrangement with DCNS for the manufacture of Scorpene submarines at Mazagaon Docks Limited (MDL) under Project 75, it is unlikely the project would have seen the two year delay that it is now confronted with because of teething problems, delays in absorption of technology, delays in augmentation of industrial infrastructure and procurement of MDL purchased materials (MPM).
Perhaps India should have similarly set up joint commercial entities to implement the Admiral Gorshkov / INS Vikramaditya refit and the construction of its Indian Aircraft Carrier (IAC).
Had Svemash shipyard in Severodvinsk been part of the commercial entity charged with refurbishing Gorshkov it is unlikely an exorbitant and incomprehensible cost escalation would have occurred. Similarly by making Italy's Fincantieri a stake holder in the constructing of IAC would have been a good way to preclude delays in the project.
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