'Pak army no match for India's so we want more nukes'

[sesha_maruthi27]

Like every action has an equal and opposite reaction, INDIA has an equal and opposite reaction for each and every action of pakistan. Does anyone have any idea about the number of nukes present with INDIAN ARMED FORCES? Secondly we have designed an anti-missle shield also. We have to concentrate on defending ourselves in case of a possible nuclear attack. INDIA should develop an environment which could sustain a nuclear attack. We should have something or some equipment to control the nuclear fission or fussion reaction which occurs after the nuke missle explodes. We have to design those equipments to control the nuclear reaction and place them at all the cities and important defence buildings and places of atmost importance. If possible we should place such equipments everywere possible. In this way we can or may bring down the damage caused by a possible nuclear attack. If pakistan could develop great number of nuke missles, why can't INDIA develop or produce. Has INDIA ever stated that we will not develop nuclear missles in great numbers. It is not necessary to tell or show the world that we have these many nuclear missles. INDIA has already placed enough missiles targeting both pakistan and china as well. This is why we see that the chinese after a long time have started placing their nuclear missiles targeting INDIA. The chinese came to know that INDIA has already placed nuke missiles targeting chinese cities and so they have also placed their missiles. Coming to pakistan, it is not as far as chinese cities. It is like northern part of INDIA and is very near compared to china. If at all pakistan launches a nuclear attack we can see it on radars very easily and we can retaliate it by firing anti-missile missiles, as we have developed it, but yet to induct it or place the shield.

INDIA IS ALWAYS PREPARED FOR ANYKIND OF WAR, WEATHER ITIS PAKISTAN OR CHINA OR BOTH TOGETHER.

INDIAN ARMY IS THE MIGHTIEST OF PAKISTAN, CHINA AND INDIA. Even the chinese know the sterngth of the INDIAN SOLDIERS. It was due to insufficient ammunition we had to go down during the 1962 war. But this time arround it is not the same. Our defence establishment has learnt a lot from the U.S. defence about how to create a hype of obselute weapons and get the new and latest equipment and ammo.

 

[Yusuf]

Shesha I appreciate your thoughts but they are just exactly what fanboy fantasies are all about.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

LF they have moved to making plutonium in their Khushab reactor. What it means that there was more proliferation from china to provide pak with designs of plutonium based weapons. And this has happened during the WoT which means the US once again winked at pak china nuke nexus.

strange coincidence that N. Korea and pakistan move to plutonium weapons at the same time and China helping pakistan and making claims of not help n korea, pure lies.

 

[SHASH2K2]

strange coincidence that N. Korea and pakistan move to plutonium weapons at the same time and China helping pakistan and making claims of not help n korea, pure lies.

Time has come when we should seriously think about paying back China in same style. There has to be a limit while trying to create a counterbalance . Chinese keep on crossing their line each time and we just wait and watch.

 

[johnee]

India has to denuke Pak. Pak has become a viable option against India for other power because of its possession of Nukes, otherwise Pak can be handled in many ways by India. Unless India develops some way of denuking-pak, India is always under a damocles sword...

 

[Yusuf]

India has to denuke Pak. Pak has become a viable option against India for other power because of its possession of Nukes, otherwise Pak can be handled in many ways by India. Unless India develops some way of denuking-pak, India is always under a damocles sword...

We cannot do that johnee, but the answer is effective missile and air defense. That will take the sting out of their nukes. To hit India it will have to make more bombs and more missiles to a point they will just collapse. The day India operationlizes its missile defense system, pakistani nuke blackmail wont work with India. right now it may have a lot of warheads, but it does not have that many number of missiles. It just wont be able to overwhelm our ABM and other air defenses.

 

[johnee]

We cannot do that johnee, but the answer is effective missile and air defense. That will take the sting out of their nukes. To hit India it will have to make more bombs and more missiles to a point they will just collapse. The day India operationlizes its missile defense system, pakistani nuke blackmail wont work with India. right now it may have a lot of warheads, but it does not have that many number of missiles. It just wont be able to overwhelm our ABM and other air defenses.

Yusuf, we have to find a way to do it. Missile defence is not enough, I am not sure it guarantuees absolute security to our cities and people. In India, I dont think a politician can risk a nuclear war with a potential death of large number of people. So, India is forever on the back-foot when faced with pak blackmail. Further, pak may not even be afraid of nuclear retaliation. Thus, the only effective way is to de-nuke pak. I am not sure, why its impossible. I think its fairly possible in the next 5 years, with the changing economic situation around the world, if we have effective leadership.

 

[Daredevil]

Denuking Pakistan is a waste of time and resources. If we have to denuke Pakistan we need to know everything Pakistan knows about their nukes. Give our condition of human intel in Pakistan this is next to impossible. On the other hand, there is also possibility that even after denuking Pakistan, it will be supplied new nukes by China. So, it doesn't make sense to denuke them. What India needs to do is to unravel Pakistan and balkanise into small provinces where they no longer have resources to maintain them and it is also difficult for China to replenish nukes to a destabilized and balkanized Pakistan. So, it is clear to India what it should do to Pakistan to break this logjam.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Rather the focusing on Pakistan we should focus on China which is supplier of those nukes to Pakistan. If we devise an strategy to counter Chinese attitude or somehow force them to withdraw support we need not worry about pakistan. we need to find out a way to stop china from helping Pakistan getting bombs based on plutonium . Instead of planning to counter nukes why not try to stop supply of nukes .

 

[Yusuf]

Yusuf, we have to find a way to do it. Missile defence is not enough, I am not sure it guarantuees absolute security to our cities and people. In India, I dont think a politician can risk a nuclear war with a potential death of large number of people. So, India is forever on the back-foot when faced with pak blackmail. Further, pak may not even be afraid of nuclear retaliation. Thus, the only effective way is to de-nuke pak. I am not sure, why its impossible. I think its fairly possible in the next 5 years, with the changing economic situation around the world, if we have effective leadership.

The chance was lot in the 80s when an "Osirak" on pak would have done great damage. I think the only way it could be done was a real threat of a radical takeover of Pak and the US flattens anything that relates to nukes. India on its own cannot do it. We dont have any human assets in Pak as it has been revealed recently. Also there are many reactors in Pak and also so many sites where their nuke components are kept. How will Indian AF which i presume will be the strike force guarantee each and everything of Pak nuke establishment is destroyed? Not possible mate. Paks response will be a nuke strike.

On the other hand, a credible ABM will make it impossible for Pak with its current arsenal and delivery system to inflict a crippling strike on India. That would drive them to spend more on increasing its arsenal and missiles. That would put it into an economic tailspin that it would not be able to recover from. That could lead to a break up which would solve a lot of our problems.

 

[Iamanidiot]

plus pakistan with more nukes is an equivalent dangerous threat to the West especially US so we are not the only ones worried about pakistan

 

[Yusuf]

Rather the focusing on Pakistan we should focus on China which is supplier of those nukes to Pakistan. If we devise an strategy to counter Chinese attitude or somehow force them to withdraw support we need not worry about pakistan. we need to find out a way to stop china from helping Pakistan getting bombs based on plutonium . Instead of planning to counter nukes why not try to stop supply of nukes .

China does not support Pak in its nuke production on a daily basis. It taught it what to do and now Pak is just "printing". The only way China can turn against Pak is terror from there reaching Xinjiang with good intensity. But that is not going to be allowed by Pak at any cost.

 

[Iamanidiot]

plus pakistan with more nukes is an equivalent dangerous threat to the West especially US so we are not the only ones worried about pakistan

 

[kuku]

Pakistan has to ensure they have enough nukes to destroy India as a nation in the even of a war, on the other hand we have to ensure Pakistan does not either, which is a much easier task.

Got to love them Pakistani they ate grass and built their bomb, and now they are making enough to bankrupt them, these blackmailers are now going to beg the world's responsible nations for the money to maintain their nuclear weapons, the threat would be if we cant not maintain them and their security, they might fall in the wrong hands, bloody pathetic, 60 years and all they have to show for are their nuclear weapons.

 

[SHASH2K2]

China does not support Pak in its nuke production on a daily basis. It taught it what to do and now Pak is just "printing". The only way China can turn against Pak is terror from there reaching Xinjiang with good intensity. But that is not going to be allowed by Pak at any cost.

Its not just about nukes . Tomorrow we will have missile defence in place and China will provide them with fast maneuvering missiles , cruise missiles or missiles with MIRV's that can beat missile defence . Message needs to be loud and clear that they are going too far while trying to help pakistan.

 

[The Messiah]

We should release doctrine that in case pak uses nuke first then we will nuke both pakistan and china.

We need to frighten them aswell....if our country is damaged because of you then you will also suffer. Then it will be in china's interest also to keep paki puppet on tight leash.

 

[Yusuf]

Actually india should modify its own nuke policy of no first use. Make it no first use except pakistan. That would also make them jittery fearing a devastating first strike from india in the case of another war.

 

[maomao]

We Should use our Laser technology to create more FLOODS in failed/rogue/beggar state of pakistan, thats one viable and fool proof option!!

 

[utubekhiladi]

We should release doctrine that in case pak uses nuke first then we will nuke both pakistan and china.

We need to frighten them aswell....if our country is damaged because of you then you will also suffer. Then it will be in china's interest also to keep paki puppet on tight leash.

also we need to keep a couple of armed nuclear missile somewhere in afgan securely. we already have our presence at afgan so why not use it to our advantage? if we do this then pakistanis will never ever dream about using nuclear weapon against india. because india can already launch nuclear weapons from land, air, sea and also from afgan :emot112: do you guys see what i mean :happy_2: now if this is possible or not is a different debate.

 

[Yusuf]

Not possible amit. Just today the leaks have said that india was willing to give Astan attack choppers but it was declined by karzai fearing pak reprisal. I don't think they would allow their country to become a party to indo pak war.