Our Pathetic Foreign Policy towards Australia

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this party needs funding. fill their mouth with dollars, american or australian your choice. this will do. this is how things work and this is how they should be done.
 

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How easily he can speak Chinese .....

 
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I guess we should all change our forum Avatars to that if it helps India defeat the enemies. :D
My avatar would just look at you and you'll all die!
 

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Gusse me aadmi bekabu ho jata hai. OP is just that :D

calm down. This is what came to my mind when i read about uranium issue again

Yusuf, not funny man.

My anger is directed at our foriegn policy.
 
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india lack a mechanism---> to fund foreign political parties to make them Indian buddies.
 

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Yusuf, not funny man.

My anger is directed at our foriegn policy.
If at all, foreign policy is the only shining light of UPA. We are doing well enough. Aussies will come around, sooner or later
 

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US has more diplomats manning the US embassy than the total no of Diplomats India has in the MEA
 

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Think we are too busy fighting amongst ourselves to really grasp what's going on around us !!!!
 

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Time for Gillard to follow Rann's lead and end the charade on uranium sales to India

21/10/11
Outgoing South Australian Premier Mike Rann has further exposed the hypocrisy at the heart of the Gillard Government's ban on uranium exports to India, Shadow Minister for Energy and Resources Ian Macfarlane said.

"On his day of departure it's little wonder Mike Rann has felt free to end the charade about the Labor Party's nonsense refusal to allow the sale of uranium to India under the same terms, conditions and safeguards as Australia sells uranium to other nations, including China," Mr Macfarlane said.

"It's all well and good for Mr Rann to see the light and join the Coalition in supporting the supply of uranium to India for clean energy generation , but what about the rest of his Labor colleagues?

"It's the Gillard Government that has the final say on this matter and it persists with its ideological ban, irrespective of the damage it will continue to cause to Australia's relationship with one of our biggest trading partners.

"Instead of punishing Australian households and businesses with its toxic carbon tax and putting in place anti-competitive barriers for Australian exporters, the Gillard Government would be far more effective in encouraging significant reductions of global greenhouse gas emissions by allowing India to use Australian uranium for peaceful, energy generation purposes.

"For as long as the Gillard Government persists with its ban on uranium sales to India it will be just more evidence that the Labor Party is driven by self-obsession and hypocrisy, running to an increasingly Greens-dominated agenda no matter the cost to the Australian energy and resources sector or the national economy."

Time for Gillard to follow Rann's lead and end the charade on uranium sales to India - Liberal Party of Australia
 

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If at all, foreign policy is the only shining light of UPA. We are doing well enough. Aussies will come around, sooner or later
Really, pray enlighten me on a few accomplishments in the eight years that they have been in power. I will list you three disasters for every 'accomplishment'.
 

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Guys guys, it is not like OZ has all the Uranium and other deposits on the planet. The rest of the world that is rich in it has agreed to supply us as much as we need in return for $$. We have that while others offering us platter have the yellow cake. So what's the rush? In fact, the recent change of government in Australia is cursing Rudd's China licking policies mentioning that it had cost them a potential market and that Australia must start selling Uranium as soon as possible.

Let's see who all the lost the market to:

- Russia
- Kazakhstan
- Namibia
- USA
- France
- Canada
- South Africa (recent)
- Mongolia
- Malawi (recent interest)

I am sure that even assuming that all these countries don't have as many deposits as OZ has, I think that they all more than easily meet our requirements being the 1 country we are versus multiple suppliers. In reality, they more than meet our requirements. So it is the Kangroos who are losing revenue.

I agree that the foreign policy of our country is pathetic not just towards OZ but towards even our enemies. That can unfortunately change only if smart and aware people vote rather than choose not to vote and leave the politicians to bamboozle poor and illiterate again and again and keep winning.
 

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Really, pray enlighten me on a few accomplishments in the eight years that they have been in power. I will list you three disasters for every 'accomplishment'.
Totally agree. This government has been more damaging to India than Pakistan and China combined. And I am calculating the long term damage since our modern formation.
 

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Indian firms have bought coal mines in aus. So surely they are ot against India.
Uranium is a different thing and needs consensus. Howard was pro, unfortunately be lost at the wrong time.

One may wonder what the govt has done on tr foreign policy front but a small but big example is pulling off a strategic partnership with Astan which required an American nod before anything else and that in the backdrop of consistent Pak threats to the US about not letting India any space in Astan.
South china sea is another.

Just the recent ones that are really important that I have listed.
 

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No need to mentioned how short-sighted (and other maybe more beyond rhetoric) Aus is, toward the next-superpower, at least in IOR, the only thing for India is to build up its LEVERAGE, as long as the resource there considered critical.
Can hardly imagine once India got an enough "strategic force", or game changer such as 2~3 carrier battle groups plus the planned amphibious strength, how Aus shall react? Not to mention even only to "balance" the abusive attitude Aus interfere Indonesia internal affairs anytime it likes...
 

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Well Australia maintains some what a low profile compared to other countries and is less important as it is far away from Asia, Europe and the U.S. They are sea pirates and they behave like that only. They say they are civilized but they are not. So, they are of less importance.
 

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Well Australia maintains some what a low profile compared to other countries and is less important as it is far away from Asia, Europe and the U.S. They are sea pirates and they behave like that only. They say they are civilized but they are not. So, they are of less importance.
Let's not go into their ancestry, bhai. That has little to do with trying to sell us Uranium. The thing is, they are a bit thick-headed. Which means they like to get all gleeful at other's apprehensions if it has them directly involved. Now if this whatever we're discussing here was our political stance internationally, they'd be just getting what they want: Attention.

See sitting down there, it gets lonely and boring:

- Good government
- Safe economy
- Small population
- Abundant resources
- No disputes with anyone
- Military only for fashion shows
- Excellent wealth management

So what to do to get world's attention? Hence they resort to such antics. Usually a reasonable and sane government at national level at our stature would have learnt to silence them off early itself rather than after deaths of so many Indian students. But then again, a travel advisory against a "western" country did piss the Kangroos off last year..:lol:
 

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Australian Labor Party Discriminatory Ban On Uranium Exports To India Has Little Australian Support
Published on Monday October 31 2011 (AEST)

The labor party are so hated by the vast majority of the Australian people that the opposition party the liberals are virtual certainties to win the next Australian federal election.

At that time India will again be restored to its rightful place in the eyes of the Australian people and uranium exports will go ahead.

New Delhi can relax, the Australian media is doing its lobbying for it - especially on the uranium front. Slamming Prime Minister Julia Gillard's foreign policy as "obsolete and discredited", a writer in The Australian has contended that it is prejudicing Australia's ties with India, the emerging third-biggest economy in the world.

"That the ALP (Australian Labor Party) ... should continue to impair Australia's economic and strategic interests is intolerable. If this situation continues uncorrected at the December national conference then Gillard should be held to account for allowing Labor's atiquated obsessions about uranium and nuclear power to prevent Australia from following an India policy that its ministers know is desirable and inevitable," wrote Paul Kelly, the paper's editor-at-large.

Kelly quoted Rory Medcalf of the Lowy Institute, a think tank, as saying: "A decision to stick with the old policy (of not selling uranium to India) will convince India's political elite that Labor is never going to be a natural partner for a rising India."

Kelly wrote: "Consider the facts. Australia exports uranium yellowcake to China, Japan, South Korea, the US, Taiwan and several European countries... (Hence) there is no justification, strategic or economic, for the ban (on selling to India)."

The ban was imposed by the Kevin Rudd government in 2008, reversing an earlier decision by the previous Howard government.

The Australian media sees Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's absence at the ongoing Commonwealth heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) as a clear snub to Australia over its no-uranium-for-India policy.

Kelly quoted Labor Senator Stephen Loosley, described as a foreign affairs specialist, as saying: "The Indians have sent a clear and unambiguous message at Perth. They regard this issue as important to them."

He again quoted Medcalf to say that "New Delhi does not immediately need our uranium but responds to Labor's ban with 'frustration and bafflement'. The situation is so bad that Australia, in Medcalf's words, 'refuses even to talk' to India about uranium exports."

In another piece, titled 'Empty chair at CHOGM shows India policy hurdle', Greg Sheridan, The Australian's foreign editor wrote: "...We only need to look to India, as the world's most populous democracy, to realize that for all the fashionable dogma about colonialism, the spread of democratic institutions has been beneficial for people in countries where they have been properly administered.


"Despite enormous challenges, India continues to lift millions of people out of poverty as it modernizes its economy and asserts itself as an international power. Just as India represents the greatest weight of the Commonwealth, and perhaps the strongest manifestation of its ideals, so the absence of its Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, from Perth delivers the sharpest blow to CHOGM."


He went on to add: "If this summit is to affirm its relevance it must attract engagement from India. Julia Gilard will be privately disappointed at this snub, which cannot be divorced from the pallid state of Australia's broader relationship. Over many decades Australia did not place sufficient emphasis on this relationship. John Howard belatedly recognized this and, after his second visit, in 2006, sought to elevate the bond.


"One important initiative in this process was agreeing to export uranium to India. On coming to power, Kevin Rudd also saw the potential and visited New Delhi. But Labor overturned the export decision because India is not a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. This, together with attacks in Melbourne on Indian students, soured the relationship. The figuratively empty chair in Perth (India has sent its vice-president) emphasizes the urgent need to repair this relationship. Ms Gillard should endorse former South Australia premier Mike Rann's call to change Labor policy on uranium exports."


Noting that "India is a responsible nuclear power and vibrant democracy facing massive energy needs", he said: "The move will help achieve the aim of minimizing global carbon emissions, aside from the benefits in boosting our trade and strategic relationship. Bonding with India should be a top foreign policy priority and should not be held hostage to the Labor Party's feel-good anti-uranium symbolism."


The last Indian prime minister to visit Australia, the media noted, was prime minister Rajiv Gandhi in 1986.


Though media reports say that Vice President Hamid Ansari, who is leading the Indian delegation to CHOGM in Manmohan Singh's absence, will take up the matter of uranium exports in his meeting with Gillard on Sunday, officials say this is not likely.


Indian High Commissioner Sujata Singh told reporters here that "Australia has a stated position on uranium exports... and we will not bring up the matter till that position changes".


Australian Uranium News - Research
 

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I slowly hate them the most in the world :(

Indians get bruised by them, They Racially abuse us now and then, Periodically set unwanted travel advisory, now this $h!t and damn they hate our sachin lol

And we must slowly switch to uranium and other sources available in our land.
 

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