Origin of the Separatists' BUK: A Bellingcat Investigation (on MH17)

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This is a very compelling civilian investigation into the source of the BUK SAM that downed MH17.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-...e-separatists-buk-a-bellingcat-investigation/

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This report analyses evidence from open sources, in particular social media, relating to the Buk missile launcher filmed and photographed in eastern Ukraine on July 17th that many have linked to the downing of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17.

While other open source information is available on other aspects of the downing of MH17, the Bellingcat MH17 investigation team believes that this particular investigation provides solid information about the origin and movements of the Buk filmed and photographed on July 17th. The Bellingcat MH17 investigation team also believes that many of the unresolved questions about the downing of MH17 will be answered by the official investigation, and our investigation was made possible by the examination of open source material overlooked by other organisations.

The report is split into three sections. The first examines the open source evidence relating to the movements of the Buk in eastern Ukraine on July 17th, the second presents evidence that the Buk filmed and photographed on July 17th originated in Russia and was part of a convoy headed towards the Ukrainian border in late June, and the third looks at the activity of vehicles seen in the same convoy after July 17th.

It is the opinion of the Bellingcat MH17 investigation team that there is undeniable evidence that separatists in Ukraine were in control of a Buk missile launcher on July 17th and transported it from Donetsk to Snizhne on a transporter. The Buk missile launcher was unloaded in Snizhne approximately three hours before the downing of MH17 and was later filmed minus one missile driving through separatist-controlled Luhansk.

The Bellingcat MH17 investigation team also believes the same Buk was part of a convoy travelling from the 53rd Anti-Aircraft Missile Brigade in Kursk to near the Ukrainian border as part of a training exercise between June 22nd and July 25th, with elements of the convoy separating from the main convoy at some point during that period, including the Buk missile launcher filmed in Ukraine on July 17th.
There is strong evidence indicating that the Russian military provided separatists in eastern Ukraine with the Buk missile launcher filmed and photographed in eastern Ukraine on July 17th.
The complete report in pdf format is hereunder posted:

[PDF]https://www.bellingcat.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Origin-of-the-Separatists-Buk-A-Bellingcat-Investigation1.pdf[/PDF]
 

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Re: Origin of the Separatists' BUK: A Bellingcat Investigation (on MH1

@Akim

Please help verify the above report. Thank you.
 
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Re: Origin of the Separatists' BUK: A Bellingcat Investigation (on MH1

There is massive amount of Ukrainian propaganda on the Net. First point - "Possession of Buk in the hands of separatists IS NO PROOF OF MISSILE FIRED BY SEPARATISTS".

Pro-Russian separatists simply did not fire the missile that downed MH17.

A warzone is a complex place. There is a lot going on. These people who manned air defence units were doing their jobs just as other soldiers. The instructions were to shoot only planes which could be clearly identified.

Ukrainian government has taken advantage of the situation to shoot down this civilian flight TO PIN THE BLAME ON MOSCOW.

Moscow has no role in this tragedy.
 

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Re: Origin of the Separatists' BUK: A Bellingcat Investigation (on MH1

@asianobserve, let us wait for the inquiry to complete. Let us see a report. Then we shall comment further.

I have full confidence that party that shot down MH17 will be the loser in this civil war.

If separatists shot down MH17, then separatists will be the loser. If Kiev shot down MH17 then Kiev will be the loser.

The judgement will not be done by USA. No amount of loud talk will change the outcome.

Obama is not told the correct things. He works on advice which is not always true. This is the story of many political leaders.

Political leaders are good orators and people of conviction but not necessarily correct.
 
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Re: Origin of the Separatists' BUK: A Bellingcat Investigation (on MH1

@Akim

Please help verify the above report. Thank you.
Nice big report. I can't nothing to add or to correct, because you don't watch it.
 
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Nice big report. I can't nothing to add or to correct, because you don't watch it.
I mean please check if the streets, places and directions mentioned are correct (if you know).
 

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@asianobserve, let us wait for the inquiry to complete. Let us see a report. Then we shall comment further.

I have full confidence that party that shot down MH17 will be the loser in this civil war.

If separatists shot down MH17, then separatists will be the loser. If Kiev shot down MH17 then Kiev will be the loser.

The judgement will not be done by USA. No amount of loud talk will change the outcome.

Obama is not told the correct things. He works on advice which is not always true. This is the story of many political leaders.

Political leaders are good orators and people of conviction but not necessarily correct.

We'll see. Maybe the wait is more exciting than the outcome.
 
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I mean please check if the streets, places and directions mentioned are correct (if you know).
There are streets. On the map they are. However,I've never been there.
 

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