One Indian dead, 3 hurt after US navy fires on fishing boat

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With an increasing military build up in the Persian gulf, expect more of such "incidents"


One Indian dead, 3 hurt after US navy fires on fishing boat - The Times of India

DUBAI: An Indian fisherman was killed and three others were wounded on Monday when a US navy ship fired at their small boat off Dubai in the tense waters of the southern Gulf, officials said.

US defence officials said the motorboat had ignored warnings not to approach the refuelling ship USNS Rappahannock, and that sailors on board the American vessel feared it could pose a threat.

"Since 2000, we've been very concerned about small boats," a defence official in Washington said, referring to the year of a deadly suicide bomb attack against the destroyer USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden.

A United Arab Emirates official said one fisherman was killed and three other Indians were wounded.

"The services concerned are now investigating this incident," foreign ministry official Tareq Amed al-Hidan said, quoted by state news agency WAM.

A statement from the US Fifth Fleet, which is based in Bahrain and on alert for possible Iranian action in Gulf waters, said the crew had opened fire as a last resort.

"An embarked security team aboard a US navy vessel fired upon a small motor vessel after it disregarded warnings and rapidly approached the US ship near Jebel Ali," it said, referring to an Emirati port city.

"The USNS Rappahannock used a series of non-lethal, preplanned responses to warn the vessel before resorting to lethal force," it said.

"The US crew repeatedly attempted to warn the vessel's operators to turn away from their deliberate approach," it added.

"When those efforts failed to deter the approaching vessel, the security team on the Rappahannock fired rounds from a .50-calibre machine gun."

The US navy has been building up its forces in the oil-rich region amid mounting tensions with Iran over its controversial nuclear programme.

Tehran has warned it could close the Strait of Hormuz in the southern Gulf if international sanctions begin to bite, potentially disrupting shipping and world oil supplies through the strategic waterway.

Washington has deployed two aircraft carriers to the region -- the USS Abraham Lincoln and the USS Enterprise -- and doubled its minesweeper fleet in the area from four to eight ships on June 23.

And on Monday, the Pentagon confirmed that it had brought forward the deployment off a third strike group, led by the carrier USS John-Stennis, by four months in order to further bolster its presence.

The deployment aims to warn off Iran over its threats to mine the narrow strait through which about a fifth of the world's traded oil passes.

In October 2000, 17 US sailors were killed when militants in an explosives-laden skiff blew a 30-by-30-foot (10-by-10-metre) hole in the USS Cole in Aden. Al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the attack.
 

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That is a very tense area. Just give it enough spark and the whole place will light up!
 

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India fishmen killed in fire from America Navy ship

An Indian fisherman was killed and three others were wounded on Monday when a security team onboard a US Navy ship fired on their boat off Dubai, a United Arab Emirates official said.

"The services concerned are now investigating this incident," UAE's official news agency WAM quoted Foreign Ministry official Tareq Amed al-Hidan as saying.

ABC News quoting an unnamed UAE official said the fishing boat had four Indians and two Emirate nationals on board.

In Rameswaram, Tamil Nadu, Karaiyur Fishermen Association President Malairajan said the dead fisherman has been identified as Sekar of Periyapattinam in Ramanathapuram district.

The injured are Muniraj, Panpuvan and Murugan who also hail from Ramanathapuram, he said adding Munira had been admitted to hospital with bullet injuries.

Malairajan said fishermen from Ramanathapuram district were working for Dubai fishing companies on daily wage basis.

Lt Gred Raelson, a spokesperson for US Navy's Bahrain-based 5th Fleet, said a security team aborad the USNS Rappahannock fired from a .50-calibre machinegun on the boat after it disregarded warnings and raced towards the ship.

Dozens of police and other Emirati officials crowded around the white-hulled motorised boat.

The boat appeared to be a civilian vessel about 30 feet (9 meters) long and powered by three outboard motors. Similar boats are used for fishing in the region.

Rescue workers were seen carrying one person in a body bag off the boat and placing it in an ambulance as fishermen looked on.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/re ... n-navy-ship_1715940
 

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We fear for tiny srilanka itself so dont expect anything here with usa and its waste of bandwidth to create thread
 

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looks like UAE fishing boat, mus be migrant fishing personals working in UAE. Well US Navy has done lip service that they were warned before hand, quite strange with their radar they could not find it in due time and was to take exterme steps which can be avoided. How the hell they could not see them before hand. Must be people sleeping on job.
 

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official response from MEA

MEA - Ministry of External Affairs
In response to a question on the incident involving a US Naval Vessel the Official Spokesperson said:

"The U.S. Government has officially confirmed that a U.S. Navy vessel fired shots at a fishing vessel near the port of Jebel Ali, Dubai at about 3.00 PM UAE local time on 16 July 2012. According to UAE officials, one Indian fisherman was killed in the firing incident and three other Indians were injured. We are deeply saddened by the loss of life of the Indian fisherman and the injuries sustained by the others. Our thoughts are with their families.

Our Embassy in Washington D.C. has been in touch with the United States Government since midnight IST yesterday. Our Embassy in Abu Dhabi is working with local authorities to carry out full investigation into the circumstances leading to this unfortunate and tragic incident. The Acting Consul General is in Jebel Ali to provide all necessary assistance.

The U.S. Ambassador to India Nancy Powell telephoned Foreign Secretary Ranjan Mathai this morning to convey her regret for the loss of life and assured that the U.S. Government would conduct full investigation.

We will stay in regular touch with U.S and UAE authorities to ascertain full facts and take appropriate further action in the matter".

New Delhi
July 17, 2012
 

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Private vessels are subject to being fired on in the US.

At the ports of San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego, USCG developed a pilot armed escort initiative, the Sea Marshals program, whereby it provided armed escort to vessels during their transit through U.S. waters. USCG also established Naval Vessel Protection Zones, the maritime equivalent of no-fly zones, for a distance of 500 yards (457 m) around all U.S. naval vessels in the navigable waters of the United States.
Read more: Port Security - Continuing concerns, USCG Responds to 9/11 Port Security - Continuing concerns, USCG Responds to 9/11
 

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I am pretty sure the US does not want to sour its relations with India. Moreover, let us not forget that US Navy ships have been attacked by Al-Qaida before.


USS Cole after the attack

The Middle East is a dangerous area, and this may have been a knee-jerk reaction by the US Navy, I am willing to believe they are bonafide in their claims.

Read more: USS Cole bombing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Wont be bad idea to spray some bullets on US luxury cruise, then say we thought it was going to attack, we did send warning shots, those standard lines..

then will show them, how it feels to be on the receiving end.
 

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Indian fishermen say US boat fired without warning

DUBAI: Indian fishermen who survived a hail of gunfire from a US navy boat off the coast of the United Arab Emirates disputed US claims that their boat drew fire after ignoring warnings to steer clear of the American vessel.

One Indian was killed and three others injured on Monday when the USNS Rappahannock, a refueling ship, fired on the fishing vessel, which the US Navy's Fifth Fleet said approached at high speed and ignored repeated warnings.

The incident highlighted the potential for a rapid escalation of tensions in Gulf waters, where U.S. forces are expanding their presence as Washington ramps up pressure on Iran over its nuclear programme.

The fishermen, hospitalized with gunshot wounds after the incident near Dubai's Jebel Ali port, said on Tuesday that they received no warning before the US craft opened fire, and that their craft had attempted to avoid any contact with it.

"We had no warning at all from the ship, we were speeding up to try and go around them and then suddenly we got fired at," 28-year-old Muthu Muniraj told Reuters from hospital, his legs punctured by the rounds of the U.S. craft's .50-caliber gun.

"We know warning signs and sounds and there were none; it was very sudden. My friend was killed, he's gone. I don't understand what happened."

A Fifth Fleet spokesman, Lt. Greg Raelson, asked whether the identification of the craft as a fishing boat made the threat cited by the Navy less likely, said an internal inquiry into the incident had not finished.

"Non-lethal measures were taken while attempting to signal the vessel," he said, adding that the fishing craft did not respond. "That was when the security team fired rounds from the .50-caliber ... Our ships have an inherent right to self-defense against lethal threats."

The United States has been particularly wary of attacks on its ships since two al Qaeda suicide bombers rammed an explosives-laden boat into the USS Cole in 2000, blowing a massive hole in its side and killing 17 US sailors.

In Monday's incident, other members of the boat's crew, which consisted of six Indians and two Emiratis, said their boat had come under fire as it returned from trawling in waters off Jebel Ali.

"We were fishing and then on the way back they started shooting at us, so many shots, like a storm," said 35-year-old Muthu Kannan, who had a gunshot wound to the abdomen and a lower leg wired into place with metal rods.

"This is not the first time for us to go out in the boat and we all know what a warning is," said 26-year-old Pandu Sanadhan. "All I can remember is a lot of shooting."

Assurances

An Indian government spokesman said he had assurances that Washington would provide a full account of the incident, and the Indian foreign ministry said it had no position on the issue of whether the fisherman were warned before the shooting.

But in the UAE, Indian ambassador M K Lokesh told Reuters after meeting with the fishermen: "Obviously if they were warned they would not go close to such a big vessel. Even if shots were fired in the air, these fishermen would have moved away."

Asked if the Indian government would press for legal charges to be lodged against the US sailors involved, he said: "We have to wait for the inquiry to be completed by the Dubai police before we move any further. But we are pushing for quick completion for the investigations."

Some Indian media appeared to blame the United States for the incident; one television channel ran headlines reading "Murder on the High Seas" and "No Regret, No Apology from America". In a statement, the U.S. embassy in New Delhi expressed its condolences to the families of the boat's crew.

Iran said the incident threatened to further destabilize a region already shaken by the international dispute over Tehran's nuclear program, which Washington and its allies believe is geared to make bombs.

Tehran denies it is seeking nuclear weapons and has repeatedly threatened to close the Gulf's outlet, the Strait of Hormuz through which 40 percent of the world's sea-borne oil exports are carried, if threatened over its nuclear plans.

"We have announced time and again that the presence of foreign forces can be a threat to regional security," Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Ramin Mehmanparast said during a news conference broadcast on state television.

The US Navy said in February that Iran had built up its naval forces in the Gulf and prepared boats that could be used in suicide attacks.

"They have increased the number of submarines ... they increased the number of fast attack craft," said Vice Admiral Mark Fox, commander of US naval forces in the region.

"Some of the small boats have been outfitted with a large warhead that could be used as a suicide explosive device. The Iranians have a large mine inventory."
video too at the site which shows interview of fishermen from India.
Indian fishermen say US boat fired without warning - The Times of India
 

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Case of mistaken identity . American send warning shots but fisherman ignored. keeping in mind the sensitivity of area they had to take extreme steps.
 

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Very sad i still cant see what provoked them and i am sure USN would have recorded the video under some standard procedure or for fun like they did when they piss on dead body and killed 1000 in Iraq Afghan and tortured 1000's in Guantanamo Bay. I dont believe the USN version until it's investigated by independent jury.

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^^ Please don't post images from jehadist propaganda websites.

However, you are right, an independent inquiry should take place. Unfortunate incident.
 

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The hand-wringing begins. The USS Cole attack is the relevant incident here.

U.S. Navy Fires on Ship in Persian Gulf, One Dead - ABC News

The "fishing boat" was heading directly for the USN ship at high speed. Were they looking for a thrill?
Were you there? What the hell makes you think that the USN story is to be believed? Nothing but allegiance right? Or is is sacrosanct?

Is it your kin that is dead? You want to go and explain to the family of the dead and injured fishermen?

If this forum was less moderated I'd have another mouthful for the worms who defend the USN in this case.
 

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Were you there? What the hell makes you think that the USN story is to be believed? Nothing but allegiance right? Or is is sacrosanct?

Is it your kin that is dead? You want to go and explain to the family of the dead and injured fishermen?

If this forum was less moderated I'd have another mouthful for the worms who defend the USN in this case.

Maybe you need to put me back on your Ignore List.:cool2:

The USN ship captain considered the risk (cf. USS Cole) and made a decision to defend his ship. The cost of not doing that could have mean loss of his ship or sailors' lives. The outcome will be a short term outrage against the USA. Not a big deal, considering most of the world is in a permanent state of outrage against us.
 
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You lil Indian fellers are so excitable and argumentative.

Maybe you need to put me back on your Ignore List.:cool2:
So you decided to show off your racist side, you miserable old american fart?

and lest I forget the smiley ... here :cool2:
 

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You lil Indian fellers are so excitable and argumentative.

Maybe you need to put me back on your Ignore List.:cool2:
@WG Ewald,

You Americans have no value for life? Then what the hell are you fighting for in the world? Only American lives? Then how can you guys be the world leaders unless you care for universal human values ??

Indian may be lille fellows but they care for human values more than you guys...
 

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