Omar warns against revoking Article 370

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

j and k is our land and history says so and then parliament have every right to take decision on it ,we should solve the mistakes slowly made by nehru and its the time
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and if it comes to omar, do any on this forum thinks that he will go to pakistan where most of thinks are imported , where if you go to pray, you are not assure to return home. This chap is kashmiri version of kejriwal. 3 out of 4 are bjp MPs from j and k and modi said during his speech at kashmir that he will delete the art. 370 and if those people are opposing it then why they elected 3 bjp candidates in 4 seats

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

I think you have a acute dogra symptom , why you always keeps dongra-ing in every thread, keep the caste and all away from this

You moron, you should thank us that we are there to keep the kashmiris in line. Jammu is Dogra homeland and we want to be free from the clutches of dirty kashmiri muslims. Dogra is not a caste. It is Jammu where 2 BJP MPs were elected and another was elected in Ladakh. Kashmiris still voted for PDP. Learn about demographics of J&K you ignoramus.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

You moron, you should thank us that we are there to keep the kashmiris in line. Jammu is Dogra homeland and we want to be free from the clutches of dirty kashmiri muslims. Dogra is not a caste. It is Jammu where 2 BJP MPs were elected and another was elected in Ladakh. Kashmiris still voted for PDP. Learn about demographics of J&K you ignoramus.

there its much suited place for you . The subject is art. 370 and not duggan pradesh or dogras, so please controll you acute dogra symptom. And I am talking about j and k not only for kashmir and pdp is ally of bjp
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http://m.thehindu.com/elections/res...p+in+j+and+k&client=ms-opera-mini&channel=new

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

there its much suited place for you . The subject is art. 370 and not duggan pradesh or dogras, so please controll you acute dogra symptom

You cannot talk about Article 370 without simultaneously bringing up the ethnic dynamics at play. Fact is there is a huge divide in the state. Kashmiris want to keep the status quo or even better seek independence. Jammu Dogra Hindus do not want to be independent, seek separation from Kashmiri domination and maybe repeal of Article 370. You are way in over your head here, just like all the other threads where you have "contributed". Btw your spelling is atrocious.

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

You cannot talk about Article 370 without simultaneously bringing up the ethnic dynamics at play. Fact is there is a huge divide in the state. Kashmiris want to keep the status quo or even better seek independence. Jammu Dogra Hindus do not want to be independent, seek separation from Kashmiri domination and maybe repeal of Article 370. You are way in over your head here, just like all the other threads where you have "contributed". Btw your spelling is atrocious.

bjp who opposes art 370 got 3 seats so there won't gonna be that much of oppose and we have powerful army too

 

[TrueSpirit1]

Re: Either Article 370 will exist, or J&K won't be a part of India- Om

Modi is an expert at having the cake and eating it. He will repeal 370, and it will remain a part of India. At the very most, J&K will get special provisions like some North-East states, which will prevent relatively affluent mainstream Indians from gobbling up lands.

May your words come true in our lifetime.

 

[AVERAGE INDIAN]

Since Bjp has absolute majority. They should abrogate article 370 and bring in an uniform civil code.They shouldnt make any excuses this time as they dont need alliance partners. Its time for integration.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Article 370 should be revoked but a similar law should take its place. After all J&K has a small population so we will be wiped out by more numerous Bhaiyas, Punjabis, Tamils etc... We want to keep our culture and our ethnic identity.

 

[TrueSpirit1]

I think you have a acute dogra symptom , why you always keeps dongra-ing in every thread, keep the caste and all away from this

Notwithstanding his immaturity, here he has a point. States in India were originally formed on basis of language. Why should Dogra's be denied of that ?

A unified Dogra state carved out of present J&K would be a physical bulwark against Muslim extremism. Militancy in Jammu areas can be controlled more ruthlessly & swiftly without having to bother too much about collateral damage.

I don't think that partition of J&K is such an imponderable. There is real demand for that, which can be repeatedly ascertained by any fair referendum.

Leave the 80x20 valley Sunnis on their own. The rest (Leh, Udhampur, Jammu & maybe, even Anantnag..who knows) can be tightly integrated with India. Left to their instruments, the Sunnis extremists in valley would see the impossibility of survival without absolutely unconditional ascension to Union of India, on our own terms.

Just thinking aloud.

 

[PredictablyMalicious]

Notwithstanding his immaturity, here he has a point. States in India were originally formed on basis of language. Why should Dogra's be denied of that ?

A unified Dogra state carved out of present J&K would be a physical bulwark against Muslim extremism. Militancy in Jammu areas can be controlled more ruthlessly & swiftly without having to bother too much about collateral damage.

I don't think that partition of J&K is such an imponderable. There is real demand for that, which can be repeatedly ascertained by any fair referendum.

Leave the 80x20 valley Sunnis on their own. The rest (Leh, Udhampur, Jammu & maybe, even Anantnag..who knows) can be tightly integrated with India. Left to their instruments, the Sunnis extremists in valley would see the impossibility of survival without absolutely unconditional ascension to Union of India, on their own terms.

Just thinking aloud.

Largely agreed but a clarification- when I refer to Jammu, I'm referring to the Jammu Division and not just the city. Jammu Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It consists of the districts of Doda, Kathua, Jammu, Udhampur, Rajouri, Ramban, Reasi, Samba, Kishtwar & Poonch.

 

[Ajesh]

These Abdullah thugs dont even have a Seat on Lok Sabha and talk as if they represent J&K.... They need to be put in place soon..

 

[Bhadra]

What is Article 370?

What is Article 370? - The Times of India

NEW DELHI: Article 370 of the Indian Constitution is a 'temporary provision' which grants special autonomous status to Jammu and Kashmir. Under Part XXI of the Constitution of India, which deals with "Temporary, Transitional and Special provisions", the state of Jammu and Kashmir has been accorded special status under Article 370.

All the provisions of the Constitution which are applicable to other states are not applicable to J&K. For example, till 1965, J&K had a Sadr-e-Riyasat for governor and Prime Minister in place of chief minister.

The provision was drafted in 1947 by Sheikh Abdullah, who had by then been appointed Prime Minister of Jammu and Kashmir by Maharaja Hari Singh and Jawahar Lal Nehru. Sheikh Abdullah had argued that Article 370 should not be placed under temporary provisions of the Constitution. He wanted 'iron clad autonomy' for the state, which Centre didn't comply with.

According to this Article, except for defence, foreign affairs, finance and communications, the Parliament needs the state government's concurrence for applying all other laws. Thus the state's residents live under a separate set of laws, including those related to citizenship, ownership of property, and fundamental rights, as compared to other Indians. As a result of this provision, Indian citizens from other states can not purchase land or property in Jammu & Kashmir.

Under Article 370, the Centre has no power to declare financial emergency under Article 360 in the state. It can declare emergency in the state only in case of war or external aggression. The Union government can therefore not declare emergency on grounds of internal disturbance or imminent danger unless it is made at the request or with the concurrence of the state government.

By far, the most debated and discussed article in the entire Constitution, Modi's suggestion on a debate on the abrogation of Article 370, has once again brought this provision in the limelight.

 

[TrueSpirit1]

Largely agreed but a clarification- when I refer to Jammu, I'm referring to the Jammu Division and not just the city. Jammu Division - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It consists of the districts of Doda, Kathua, Jammu, Udhampur, Rajouri, Ramban, Reasi, Samba, Kishtwar & Poonch.

I know; spent my childhood nearby.

 

[HeinzGud]

By far, the most debated and discussed article in the entire Constitution, Modi's suggestion on a debate on the abrogation of Article 370, has once again brought this provision in the limelight.

Everyone in DFI argues that Tamils in Sri Lanka should be given autonomy like this. Don't you think that they can also act against the state like this?

 

[Kaalapani]

Everyone in DFI argues that Tamils in Sri Lanka should be given autonomy like this. Don't you think that they can also act against the state like this?

you don't have idea of autonomy .

 

[HeinzGud]

you don't have idea of autonomy .

With the autonomy Indian states have it is better I do not know about it.

 

[Bhadra]

Everyone in DFI argues that Tamils in Sri Lanka should be given autonomy like this. Don't you think that they can also act against the state like this?

Hello Sinhala Guderian ... long time ... No see.

Autonomy does not mean beyond sovereignty but the right to decide for themselves how they would live - why should Sinhala decide that Tamils should eat beef !!

 

[Bhadra]

With the autonomy Indian states have it is better I do not know about it.

you surely mean Tamilnadu !! Ha Ha Ha .... They are going to attack you .. ?? They do not have that autonomy. LTTE pullighals had no one from Tamilnadu in their ranks .... They do not have pullies in Tamilnadu !!

 

[Mad Indian]

You cannot talk about Article 370 without simultaneously bringing up the ethnic dynamics at play. Fact is there is a huge divide in the state. Kashmiris want to keep the status quo or even better seek independence. Jammu Dogra Hindus do not want to be independent, seek separation from Kashmiri domination and maybe repeal of Article 370. You are way in over your head here, just like all the other threads where you have "contributed". Btw your spelling is atrocious.

Excellent point. See what you can do when you are not your usual "identify crisised-self".

Anyway , while what you said is a good short term solution, won't it come back to bite us in long term- .ie division of the state along religious lines will further put legitimacy to their claim for seperation from India?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

This article has to be wiped out, For those who support it, Have two choice ..

1. Leave this country be with some other who would be happy to adopt you ..
2. Rot in Jail ..