Nuclear Weapons Proliferation and the NPT

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North Korea was once a signatory and withdrew, and Iran is a signatory and still pursuing their program, and Israel is a non signatory and still may have nukes and will always have nukes from USA; proliferated if needed ,and Pakistan has nukes proliferated from China a NPT signatory,so what exactly does this NPT do to stop nuclear proliferation?
 

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NPT is based on non-proliferation, disarmament, and the right to peacefully use nuclear technology.

and the UNSC members have only broked the first two articles of NPT .
 

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India not signing NPT: Chavan- Hindustan Times


India is not considering signing the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty, government informed the Lok Sabha on Wednesday.


India not signing NPT: Chavan



This was stated by Minister of State in PMO Prithviraj Chavan in a written reply to a question raised by Kalikesh Singh Deo in the Lok Sabha.

“No Sir,” Chavan said to a query on whether the government was considering signing the Nuclear non-Proliferation Treaty.

In reply to a separate question, Chavan said the government had received suggestions to amemnd the Atomic Energy Act, 1962 to allow private participation in nuclear power generation.

He said the Indian private sector can participate in nuclear power generation projects as a minority partner under the present Atomic Energy Act.

State-owned Nuclear Power Corporation Limited runs all the nuclear power plants in the country.
Who said it was....?

Have they lost their senses...?
 
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If India wants the nuclear deal Obama wants India to sign NPT and CTBT (and stop having an independent foreign policy).
 

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Obama asked all countries to sign NPT . India,Pakistan ,Israel and North Korea and i dont think there is nothing wrong in that .

First Americans needs to reduce thier arsenal and then bring Israelis on board before saying to India to sign NPT .


Obama regime: India, 3 other countries must sign NPT
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...untries-must-sign-NPT/articleshow/4490055.cms
 
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Obama asked all countries to sign NPT . India,Pakistan and Israel and i dont think there is nothing wrong in that .

First Americans needs to reduce thier arsenal and then bring Israelis on board before saying to India to sign NPT .
I agree IG but Pakistan and China have already proliferated and it went unpunished so why rush to sign a sham treaty?
 

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I agree IG but Pakistan and China have already proliferated and it went unpunished so why rush to sign a sham treaty?

This whole proliferation chain goes to USA and USSR .

The head of British nuclear forces commented that even in the 1950s, British nuclear independence was a "myth"; the Pentagon explained publicly in 1962, that British nuclear forces did not operate independently; Richard Scott, permanent secretary to Britain's then prime minister Harold MacMillan, wrote in the early 1960s that the supply of Polaris "put Britain in America's pocket" (see the House of Commons defence committee, The Future of the UK's Strategic Nuclear Deterrent: The Strategic Context, June 2006).


Britain gave France the secret of the hydrogen bomb, hoping French President Charles de Gaulle would return the favor by admitting the U.K. into the European Economic Community. (He Gallicly refused.) France shared key nuclear technology with Israel and then with Iraq.

USSR gave China and China to Pakistan and North Korea .
 
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we should test a neutron bomb in our next test, we have the most tritium in the world for hydrogen , and uranium thorium for nukes, but neutron would be nice new addition.
 

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we should test a neutron bomb in our next test, we have the most tritium in the world for hydrogen , and uranium thorium for nukes, but neutron would be nice new addition.
And where we are going to use it ?

I seriously do think that Nuclear and chemical weapons should be disarmed and for this first the 5 Nuclear states should do more and disarm thier existing arsenals and stop expanding .
 
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And where we are going to use it ?

I seriously do think that Nuclear and chemical weapons should be disarmed and for this first the 5 Nuclear states should do more and disarm thier existing arsenals and stop expanding .
IG a neutron bomb is much more practical than a nuke the 5 states have 1000's of nukes if they reduce it will still be in the thousands we probably are not even in the hundreds so we can't be an idiot joining the bandwagon, especially with 600 chinese nukes pointed at Delhi.
 

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IG a neutron bomb is much more practical than a nuke the 5 states have 1000's of nukes if they reduce it will still be in the thousands we probably are not even in the hundreds so we can't be an idiot joining the bandwagon, especially with 600 chinese nukes pointed at Delhi.
China is having 600 Nukes ?
 

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No they don't have 600 and certainly not all pointed at New Delhi
 

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we should test a neutron bomb in our next test, we have the most tritium in the world for hydrogen , and uranium thorium for nukes, but neutron would be nice new addition.
LF, there is will no next nuclear test. Man you are talking in BJP style. I believe you don't need me to remind you about the international pressure and reaction that would be faced by India after nuclear test and don't forget about sanction. The nuclear test potray india as source of all problem.
We have stimulator that can be used as a substitute for actual test.
 
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LF, there is will no next nuclear test. Man you are talking in BJP style. I believe you don't need me to remind you about the international pressure and reaction that would be faced by India after nuclear test and don't forget about sanction. The nuclear test potray india as source of all problem.
We have stimulator that can be used as a substitute for actual test.
you are right and when India signs NPT and CTBT there will officially be no more.
 

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Who requires expensive actual test if it can be done using cheap stimiluator just look at the plus points a lot of money is saved, you are saved from international politics and any foriegn party won't know the true capability of your weapon.
As far as CTBT we may sign it, there is no harm in it but for NTP we won't sign it..
 

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Given his desire to "reset" relations with Russia, US president Barack Obama's visit to Moscow on July 6-7 was intended to show improvement in an otherwise strained relationship, marked by deep Russian suspicions about American moves to expand the NATO alliance, by co-opting Russia's neighbours like Ukraine and Georgia. Such moves were perceived as attempts to strategically 'contain' Russia. While suspicions remain, the visit was marked by a landmark agreement signalling Russian support to the US in Afghanistan. Russia agreed to permit 4,500 flights annually across Russian airspace by US military aircraft carrying military supplies to Afghanistan. The Americans have also heralded the understanding reached on a framework for a Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START), to reduce the nuclear arsenals of the two countries.

Obama and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev agreed they would reduce their strategic nuclear warheads from the current ceiling of 2,200 warheads each to between 1,500 and 1,675 and that they would reduce the current ceiling of 1,600 long-range strategic missiles, to between 500 and 1,100, over the next seven years. While this has been described as a great step towards nuclear disarmament, the reality is somewhat different. Even at reduced levels, the two countries will retain enough weaponry to destroy each other and the rest of the world several times over. Between them, they today possess an estimated 22,400 nuclear warheads.

The real reason for all the hype and hoopla about START lies in the fact that the forthcoming review conference of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) is due next year. The Obama administration cannot allow this review to end in a fiasco as in 2005, when non-nuclear weapons states assailed the US and other powers for failing to fulfil their obligations to disarm and grant unhindered access to nuclear energy to those who have foregone the nuclear option. The 2005 fiasco was followed by growing international concern over Iran's and North Korea's nuclear ambitions. The US would showcase START with Russia as symbolising its commitment to nuclear disarmament.

More ominously for India, it appears that the US may be seeking to divert attention from the lack of serious commitment to nuclear disarmament by focusing on the need to "universalise" NPT membership, by endorsing the suggestion that the real threat of proliferation arises from countries like India which have not signed the NPT and that they should be pressured into doing so. Islamic countries, particularly in the Arab world, are expected to support this argument as a means to pressure Israel into foregoing its nuclear weapons. The US move in the G8 to deny enrichment and reprocessing facilities to India as a non-signatory to NPT has to be seen in this context.

Obama is reportedly planning to take his nuclear agenda forward by hosting a summit of around 30 countries in 2010. How should India respond? While India has not done anything to undermine NPT's efficacy, it would have to take the moral high ground by noting that on issues of nuclear disarmament the World Court's views should not be ignored, but implemented. The World Court was asked its opinion on a query: "Is the threat of use of nuclear weapons permitted under International Law?" On July 8, 1996, the court held that states possessing nuclear weapons have not just a need but an obligation to commence negotiations leading to nuclear disarmament. It also held that the use of nuclear weapons would be generally contrary to the principles of international law, though there was some doubt about the extreme contingency when "the very survival of a state" was threatened.

Despite the World Court's view, the US, in its 2005 Doctrine of Joint Operations, reserves the right to use nuclear weapons even to "rapidly end a war" on terms favourable to it. The UK and France have reserved the right to resort to the use of nuclear weapons. Russia has discarded the Soviet policy of no first use. India should work with non-nuclear weapons states to move a resolution in the UN General Assembly later this year declaring the use or threat of use of nuclear weapons as inadmissible and calling on all states to foreswear threat of use of nuclear weapons. The guiding principles of an equitable global nuclear regime are reflected in the opinion of the World Court, more than in the NPT.

Non-proliferation and climate change will figure in the agenda for talks with US secretary of state Hillary Clinton, an influential advocate of strengthening India-US relations, during her India visit. Reprocessing of spent fuel is imperative if we are to proceed with our indigenous, three-stage, thorium-based nuclear energy programme. Denial of reprocessing facilities will slow down our nuclear power programme, inhibit India-US cooperation on nuclear power and not exactly serve the cause of replacing polluting hydrocarbons with clean nuclear energy. Sadly, it would also undermine the letter and spirit of the October 2008 123 Agreement and the "clean waiver" that the Nuclear Suppliers Group accorded to India.
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Kakodkar sounded warning on NPT link to ENR

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U.S. effort at NSG would be “breach of trust”

India must take ’concerted action’ to avert new rule


NEW DELHI: The United Progressive Alliance government may insist it is “not concerned” by the recent American move to get the G8 to prohibit the sale of enrichment and reprocessing (ENR) items to India pending a similar ban by the Nuclear Suppliers Group. But six months ago, Atomic Energy Commission Chairman Anil Kakodkar publicly drew attention to the restrictive moves afoot and warned that what Washington was pushing was “contrary to the spirit” of India’s bilateral agreement with the United States.

In his inaugural address to a seminar on Global Nuclear Challenges, organised by the Centre for Air Power Studies on January 10, Dr. Kakodkar spoke of “credible but unofficial information” that the Consultative Group of the NSG was “moving very close to the decision that ENR technologies would be available on the condition that one must have signed the NPT [Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty].”

He was referring to the NSG draft on ENR transfer rules which emerged from the November 2008 meeting of the nuclear cartel. Barring a few “bracketed” sentences, that draft has the informal approval of the NSG’s 45 members. And it is the unbracketed bulk of the text that the G8 has decided to implement from now on. That text is not public but diplomatic sources told The Hindu the proposed conditions for ENR transfers include NPT adherence. The U.S. also went on record last October to say getting NPT conditionality at the NSG was its top priority.

“Targeted at India”


Contrary to official spin that the new G8 ban (and the NSG ‘clean text’ it implements) is aimed at “rogue states” such as North Korea and Iran or “non-state actors”, Dr. Kakodkar was clear about the aim of the NPT rule: “Obviously, such a condition is directly targeted at India.”

He said this because the current NSG guidelines prohibit nuclear transfers of any kind, including ENR items, to countries outside the NPT. India secured a clean waiver from this guideline in September 2008. If the NSG now adopts a new guideline on ENR transfers specifying NPT membership, India would be the only country affected because Pakistan, Israel and North Korea — the other three outside the treaty — were already banned from receiving any nuclear transfers by the existing catch-all guideline.

India, the AEC chairman had warned, “needs to take concerted action to make sure the NSG does not take that decision. And if the NSG does take that decision, it would be a breach of trust and it would be contrary to the spirit which has been spelt out in the Bilateral Agreement with the U.S.”

The ENR issue was important, Dr. Kakodkar said, not because India was desperate about getting any technology in these areas. “The issue is how the world looks at us.” In particular, India does not want to be singled out as a target for an ENR technology ban, least of all because it has not signed the NPT.

Finance Minister Pranab Mukherjee, who spoke on the issue in Parliament last week when the ENR controversy erupted, said the G8’s decision could not be equated with the NSG. “We have received a clean waiver from 45 NSG countries… therefore we are not concerned with what resolution or position G8 takes in respect of a particular issue.” He added that individual countries had the right to decide whether to trade or not.

For India, however, what matters is the NSG waiver.

The NSG has not yet taken a final decision. But this still raises the question of why Washington is pushing rules at the NSG which amount to a “breach of trust” and which are “contrary to the spirit” of the Indo-U.S. agreement. And, of course, what “concerted action” New Delhi is planning to prevent its clean waiver from being formally diluted.

The Hindu : Front Page : Kakodkar sounded warning on NPT link to ENR
 

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