NSG to hold unprecedented special session to discuss India's membership

[Indx TechStyle]

What is it with Indians thinking their country can get a permanent UNSC seat? On what basis will this happen?



Every year this dramabaizi crops up and then quietly goes away. All you get is a lot of :blah: from all the players. US makes the same empty promises, India is pleased by this, there are warm feelings, chai and samosas are served, and then what happens? Nothing.

Let's get one thing straight, the P5 will never, ever let anyone into their elite club. US can show its support knowing full well that China will never accept India. It's all a con game. The best the UNSC will do, I think, is create another tier of permanent members, but with no veto authority.

I suggest people get over this fantasy about UNSC membership. The only way for India to get such membership is to destroy the UN as it's currently constituted and rebuild from the ground up, which is not a bad idea considering its foundations are archaic and does not reflect the new world order.

Might is always right.
And only major forces can get into UNSC. If India goes on emerging, there's no way that anybody gonna deny it's bid for UNSC.
Though, it will take time.
10 years, 20 years or probably even 50 years.

But mark my words, India will get into UNSC. France and UK are now weaker, Russia is no more a superpower, only US and China are effective players. Other one who can emerged in next few decades is only India.

 

[lupgain]

Signs are not looking good brothers...

 

[lupgain]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...indias-entry/article8767842.ece?homepage=true

CHECK THIS OUT BOYS

 

[3deffect]

China remains unmoved, says NSG will not discuss India's bid

Seoul, June 24 (ANI): In a major blow to India, China on Friday said that the Nuclear Suppliers' Group (NSG) will not discuss its membership bid into the elite group, adding that New Delhi will first have to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), as it is a must and a major criteria set up by the NSG.

Speaking to ANI here, Director-General of the Arms Control Department of Ministry of Foreign Affairs of China Wang Qun asserted that India's membership has 'never ever' been on the agenda of the NSG and that there is no such agenda item for the two-day plenary, adding that there is no point of China opposing or supporting India as well as the membership of other countries.

"One thing is clear that India's membership has never ever been taken up as an agenda item. In the two plenary sessions, there was no extraordinary session on this matter. There is no such agenda matter. In the caveat there could be observations and interventions but that's all," he said.

However, Wang added that Beijing attaches 'great importance' to India's sentiments for the membership of NSG.

Talking about India's chances into the elite group, the Chinese official said that one of the five criteria's set by the NSG is that the signing of the NPT is a must, adding that the rule was not set by China but by the group as a whole.

"China doesn't support Pakistan or India to enter NSG until they follow rules established by members. NSG consensus is in favour of Non Proliferation Treaty, hope India will join NPT first. The meeting on Thursday was an effort to find consensus on non-NPT state applications, but differences remain," Wang said.

Asserting that China was not isolated in the matter of not accepting India's bid, he further said that on the question of how to deal with Non-NPT states, the group remains divided.

"There are nations which have appreciated the efforts India has made for the NSG but in the meantime, hoped that its membership could be considered within the framework of the NPT. In fact the NPT is really an issue," Wang added.

Earlier, highly placed sources told ANI that China is not the sole opponent to India's member ship to the NSG, but Brazil, Austria, Ireland, Turkey and New Zealand too have opposed India's entry, citing it's not being a signatory of the NPT for nuclear weapons and weapons technology.

This development comes in the wake of Prime Minister Narendra Modi meeting Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Summit in Tashkent and urging China to make a fair and objectives assessment of New Delhi's application to the NSGand to judge it on its own merit. (ANI)

 

[Indx TechStyle]

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Signs are not looking good brothers...

India's bid for NSG: Members countries talking about alternate plan if China remains unmoved
Currently, 35 out of 48 support us openly. NPT may be dropped ij a resolution to make India qualify, but Pakistan will fail due to it's previous track record. But bringing such a resolution(by voting) may take few months.
First an internal election may occur in NSG.

 

[Indx TechStyle]

Will be there in NSG much before Pakistan, but we can't be a member for several year given the posture of China.

 

[lupgain]

ONE THING FOR SURE, China will now be more careful with India, It knows that India has it's presence in International Arena and aggressive one, SE Asian countries will get more close and china will see it's side effects soon.. Oh boy game getting interesting

 

[Screambowl]

It's all over for now ..............................................

 

[Screambowl]

prepare for Nuclear Commerce Group .... the alternate plan ..

 

[vayuu1]

It's all over for now ..............................................

It's not over till its over, wait for today.

Chak De India

 

[Srinivas_K]

Because India deserves to be on high table!

What is it with Indians thinking their country can get a permanent UNSC seat? On what basis will this happen?



Every year this dramabaizi crops up and then quietly goes away. All you get is a lot of :blah: from all the players. US makes the same empty promises, India is pleased by this, there are warm feelings, chai and samosas are served, and then what happens? Nothing.

Let's get one thing straight, the P5 will never, ever let anyone into their elite club. US can show its support knowing full well that China will never accept India. It's all a con game. The best the UNSC will do, I think, is create another tier of permanent members, but with no veto authority.

I suggest people get over this fantasy about UNSC membership. The only way for India to get such membership is to destroy the UN as it's currently constituted and rebuild from the ground up, which is not a bad idea considering its foundations are archaic and does not reflect the new world order.

 

[lupgain]

that's me any my son guys

 

[lupgain]

http://www.thehindu.com/news/intern...in-nuke-club/article8768460.ece?homepage=true

I think we are going towards non-discussion of India's inclusion

 

[lupgain]

BRAKING FROM SEOUL

 

[vayuu1]

BRAKING FROM SEOUL
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Koi gal nhi ji, atleast Hume pata to chla ki chinese will do everything thing to block india, now time to dump chini products and ban them once and for all

Chak De India

 

[lupgain]

Guys , lets see what PMO has to say now

 

[raja696]

Its better India to wait and say firm no to NPT. Now UK out of EU, expect elites to be desperate for Indian market like olden days (EAST INDIA COMPANY). Next time they will do the nsg job for us. Fortunately in such a time India will take over Britain companies.

 

[Zebra]

http://www.indiandefensenews.in/2016/06/shocker-for-india-switzerland-makes-u.html

Indeed, It is "Shocker" for all pro US Indians.

And Modi already knew it that after joining SCO, US won't support anyway.

But what gone wrong in this entire operation.........!

May be , it was kahin pe nigahen kahin pe nishana type operation.

And mission accomplished, as Modi dragged India as permanent member of SCO, in the name of NSG.

 

[AnantS]

Its not shocker people who already knew its a game plan of US to ask India to sign NPT. India if is not included in NSG without signing NPT, India should go back from its commitment to Carbon Emission cuts. Simple!

 

[Zebra]

Its better India to wait and say firm no to NPT. Now UK out of EU, expect elites to be desperate for Indian market like olden days (EAST INDIA COMPANY). Next time they will do the nsg job for us. Fortunately in such a time India will take over Britain companies.

NPT is just to show people as an excuse only.

Real story is different.

Modi once tried it in NSG's meet last year also. I remember.

But at that time he failed, this time looks like he did good homework.

But still got caught on DFI anyway.

If you are not sure, then try Modi say no to SCO, totally.

Then try again for NSG.

And see what happens next.