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Okay so this is what is gonna happen. The US will try to push for some serious export bans and trade bans on N.Korea and will push it through the UN. China and Russia will block the moves and the US will go back to square one. That is the grim reality now...unless Obama can somehow charm the pants off the Russian President and the Chinese premier.
You are rightly said this is will going to happen. It is useless to expect any thing Productive from Mr. Barak Obama , he is not Kennedy. The beeline is clear that the USA's reputation as world's police is deteriorating.

Pyro, the key rests to Japan's hand, they need to change that Killer Constitution first, disband Article 9, buy doing that it can survive. It is a pity for a country that gave birth the Samurais are in a helpless position. If you are gentleman and think others gentleman you are wrong. It is time for Japan to realise that.

According to Reuters Japan Protests the North Korean rocket launch.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSTKE004254

apan protests "regrettable" N.Korean rocket launch
Sat Apr 4, 2009 11:20pm EDT

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TOKYO, April 5 (Reuters) - Japan strongly protested the launch of a North Korean rocket over its territory on Sunday, branding Pyongyang's move "extremely regrettable".

Chief Cabinet Secretary Takeo Kawamura said that even if the object launched was a satellite, it was a violation of U.N. resolutions, and the Japanese government would convene a security panel meeting in the afternoon.

"From the government's point of view, even if it is a satellite launch it is is a breach of U.N. resolutions 1695 and 1718, which call for a halt to all North Korea's ballistic missile-related activities, so we had strongly urged North Korea to cancel the launch.

"It is extremely regrettable that North Korea went ahead with the launch despite this and we protest strongly."

The United States, South Korea and Japan had all said ahead of the launch it was a disguised test of the Taepodong-2 missile, designed to carry a warhead to U.S. territory. (Reporting by Linda Sieg; Editing by Rodney Joyce and John Chalmers)
 

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Another report is from BBC


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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7982874.stm


N Korea rocket launch condemned
Satellite image of the North Korean launch pad at the Musudan-ri base in Hwadae (11/03/2009)
The launch pad on the north-east coast has been picked up on satellite images

North Korea has defied international warnings and gone ahead with a controversial rocket launch.

The rocket blasted off from the Musudan-ri launch site in the northeast of the country at 0230 GMT.

North Korea says it is sending a satellite into orbit, but its neighbours suspect the launch could be a cover for a long-range missile test.

Japan, South Korea and the US strongly condemned the launch. Tokyo requested a meeting of the UN Security Council.

The US called North Korea's launch a "provocative act".
See satellite images of North Korea's launch pad

America would take "appropriate steps to let North Korea know that it cannot threaten the safety and security of other countries with impunity", a US State Department Spokesman said.

Japan called the move "extremely regrettable", while South Korea said it constituted a clear breach of a United Nations resolution.

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North Korea announced several weeks ago that it planned to send what it called an "experimental communications satellite" into space.

Its rocket blasted off just before midday local time, within a pre-announced launch window.

An undated photo of North Korean missile test

North Korea's missile programme
Reaction to North Korea launch

It flew over Japan towards the Pacific, with two booster stages dropping into the ocean to the east and west of Japan, Tokyo said.

Japan said it did not try to intercept the rocket. It had indicated it would do so if the rocket threatened its territory, and had deployed ships equipped with interceptor technology.

North Korea says that the launch is part of what it calls peaceful space development.

An unidentified South Korean official told Yonhap news agency that the rocket did appear to be carrying a satellite. It is not clear whether a satellite was successfully put into space.

But Pyongyang's neighbours believe the real aim of the launch was to test long-range missile technology.

They suspect North Korea of testing its Taepodong-2 missile, which could put parts of the US within the communist nation's military reach.

North Korea first tested a Taepodong-2 in July 2006. Three months later, it carried out a nuclear test.

International talks involving the US, South Korea, Japan, Russia and China on an aid-for-nuclear disarmament deal are currently stalled.

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North Korean launch fails to put anything into orbit

Sunday's failure of an improved version of the North Korean Taepo-Dong-2 has deprived U.S. intelligence agencies from assessing performance of the vehicle's third stage. This is deemed critical to determining the precise threat the vehicle poses as an ICBM that could attack Alaska, Hawaii or deeply into the continental U.S.


Almost immaterial in the post-flight analysis is the failure of the vehicle to place a small communications satellite in low earth orbit, North Korea's stated intention.

Unlike on the previous launches of earlier versions of the long-range vehicle, the North Koreans announced the planned impact zones for the first and second stages of the vehicle to warn ships and commercial aircraft out of the area.

North Korea says the satellite launch mission succeeded, but the U.S. says the vehicle failed about half way through an about 13-minute ascent. This plunged the second and third stages, along with the satellite into the mid-Pacific Ocean.

The vehicle was heavily redesigned after its 1998 initial launch failure that succeeded in sending the second stage over Japan.

A redesigned version was launched in July 2006 and this time failed early in first stage flight.

The design was then changed again to the version launched Sunday, with liquid propellant first and second stages and a long narrow solid propellant upper stage with a short bulbous satellite shroud.

A factor lost on virtually all news media commentators in describing the vehicle following its launch is that the North Korean rocket flown is a thre- stage, not a two-stage vehicle.

The U.S. was able to monitor key phases of the countdown using land, sea and air-based electronic intelligence assets. In the minutes prior to launch, the North Korean activation of its tracking radars was a tip off that the launch was imminent.

Following liftoff at 0230 GMT (10:30 p.m. EDT Saturday) the vehicle flew on essentially a 90.5-degree azimuth. The launch occurred at 10:30 a.m. local time at the North Korean Musudan-ri launch on the northeast coast of the Korean peninsula.

Radars in Japan and on U.S. and Japanese destroyers in the Sea of Japan and the western Pacific detected the launch immediately as it occurred as did two or three Defense Support Program (DSP) missile early warning spacecraft monitoring the Pacific region. The DSPs likely also detected the fiery reentry and breakup of the vehicle over the west-central Pacific several minutes later.

The first stage burned as planned and fell into the Sea of Japan 280 kilometers (173 miles) west of northern Japan.

Japanese navy ships were pre positioned in the area and raced to the splashdown area with the hope of recovering debris for analysis.

The second stage may have ignited, but analysts are still assessing for how long it burned. If it did ignite, the second stage did not complete its firing. As a result the vehicle impacted 1,070 kilometers (664 miles) in the Pacific off the east coast of Japan. This was several hundred miles west and short of the area that North Korea announced where the second stage and payload shroud debris would fall.

U.S. intelligence agencies are closely assessing whether the first and second stages used an up-rated rocket engine compared with the previous two launches.

The third stage has not yet been tested in flight, a key objective for both North Korean success and U.S. analysis of the rocket's capabilities.

"Once they are successful with a third stage they would have a missile that could reach the western U.S.," according to Rep. Jane Harmon (D-Calif.), chairwoman of the House Homeland Security Subcommittee On Intelligence and Risk Assessment. "This is very serious and so it is critical that this administration play keen attention to this test activity," she said in a recent NBC interview.

The solid propellant upper stage resembles that used on the U.S. Thor-Able rocket design flown in the early 1960s.

The North Korean stage would have accelerated the payload to 17,500 mph velocity for the orbital mission or a targeted slower velocity cutoff for ICBM missions to North America.

Light-weight variations of the TD-2 with an advanced third stage could fly as far as 15,000 kilometers (9,315 miles) placing much of the U.S. at risk from a nuclear or biological attack if the North Koreans are able to master the miniaturization of such weapons.


http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0904/05northkorea/
 

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N. Korea Says It Conducts Underground Nuclear Test

N. Korea Says It Conducts Underground Nuclear Test

North Korea announced Monday that it successfully carried out an underground nuclear test, weeks after threatening to restart its rogue atomic program.

The country's official Korean Central News Agency called Monday's test "part of measures to bolster its nuclear deterrent for self-defense."

President Lee Myung-bak convened an emergency security session. His spokesman, Lee Dong-kwan, confirmed that a nuclear test may have been carried out in the North.

Seismologists from the U.S., South Korea and Japan reported earthquakes in an northeastern area, where North Korea conducted a nuclear test in 2006.

A 4.7-magnitude earthquake was registered in northeastern North Korea at 9:54 a.m. (0054 GMT), the U.S. Geological Survey said.

The quake, measured at a depth of 6 miles underground, occurred 40 miles northwest of the city of Kimchaek, the USGS said.

The Japan Meteorological Agency also said it detected seismic activity Monday morning. "We are checking whether they were due to a nuclear test," agency official Gen Aoki said in Tokyo.

In Seoul, the Korea Institue of Geoscience and Mineral Resources reported a 4.5-magnitude quake in Kilju in North Hamgyong Province.

North Korea also carried out a nuclear test in October 2006 in Kilju, a test that drew sanctions from the United Nations and prompted five other nations to push negotiations on a nuclear disablement-for-aid pact with North Korea.

In Washington, State Department spokesman Andy Laine said the U.S. government had no confirmation of a new nuclear test.

"At this point we've seen the reports and we're trying to get more information, but we're not able to confirm at this time," Laine said.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/25/world/asia/25nuke.html?ref=global-home

North Korea Claims to Conduct 2nd Nuclear Test

By CHOE SANG-HUN
Published: May 24, 2009

SEOUL, South Korea — North Korea announced on Monday it had successfully conducted its second nuclear test, defying international warnings and drastically raising the stakes in a global effort to get the recalcitrant Communist state to give up its nuclear weapons program.

The North’s official news agency, KCNA, said the country had conducted an “underground” nuclear test.

The announcement came moments after the South Korean government’s geological sensors had detected an artificially triggered tremor emanating from Kilju, northeast North Korea, said Lee Dong-kwan, spokesman of the office of President Lee Myung-bak of South Korea.

The spokesman said “intelligence officials of South Korea and the United States are analyzing the data and closely monitoring the situation.”

Word of the nuclear test sent a shudder through Asian financial markets, with Korea’s stock index plunging four percentage points within minutes.

North Korea conducted its first nuclear test on Oct. 9, 2006, and it had given some advance notice of its intention to test a device. That initial test also was in the northeast.

North Korea recently threatened to conduct a second nuclear test, citing what it called Washington’s “hostilities” against the isolated Communist regime.

The test came against a backdrop of heightened tensions between North Korea and the United States, which keeps a heavy military deployment in South Korea.

Two American journalists are scheduled to be tried June 4 in North Korea, charged with illegal entry into the North and “hostile acts.” That case in particular has aggravated tensions between Pyongyang and Washington, which were already strained after the North launched a long-range rocket on April 5.

After that launching, Washington pressed the United Nations Security Council to tighten sanctions on the North. In retaliation, Pyongyang expelled United Nations nuclear monitors, while threatening to restart a plant that makes weapons-grade plutonium and to conduct a nuclear test.

This month, one day after an American diplomat offered new talks on North Korea’s nuclear program, the North said it had become useless to talk further with the United States.

“The study of the policy pursued by the Obama administration for the past 100 days since its emergence made it clear that the U.S. hostile policy toward the D.P.R.K. remains unchanged,” the North Korean Foreign Ministry said, using the initials for the country’s official name, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

In comments carried by KCNA, the ministry said: “There is nothing to be gained by sitting down together with a party that continues to view us with hostility.”

The rebuff came as Stephen W. Bosworth, the American special envoy on North Korea, began a trip to Asia with a fresh offer of dialogue. The North’s vow to “bolster its nuclear deterrent” came just hours before Mr. Bosworth was due to arrive in Seoul.
 

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Seismic and Satellite reports are needed to confirm this.
 

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China had better get ready for a major earthquake, as that seems to follow underground tests especially in their own back yard.

This is dire news for all the world, even worse than if the test had been in Iran.
I wouldn't want to be living in South Korea with a young family now.
 

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China had better get ready for a major earthquake, as that seems to follow underground tests especially in their own back yard.

This is dire news for all the world, even worse than if the test had been in Iran.
I wouldn't want to be living in South Korea with a young family now.
You make it sound like they are crazies. Ready to fire them as soon as they get it.

I do agree that it is dangerous but then the N bombs were also dangerous with the "Superpowers" keeping them at hair trigger alerts in their thousands.
 

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You make it sound like they are crazies. Ready to fire them as soon as they get it.

I do agree that it is dangerous but then the N bombs were also dangerous with the "Superpowers" keeping them at hair trigger alerts in their thousands.
Yeah but they didn't did they? Only history will show if we can say the same thing about a rogue state like North Korea.
 

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Just saw the news and am back... China has supposedly "severely criticized" North Korea's nuclear test...

Nice game played by the Chinese, they give support to all of these rogue states like Myanmar, North Korea, Sudan, Pakistan etc. and then come out openly and condemn them so that they can increase their own credibility in the eyes of the world...

Either way, those Chinese don't lose... its a win-win situation for them...
 

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And, the most shocking part is that the Western Media as well believes what the CCP official statement is without analysing that its with their support that North Korea has been wagging its tail...

They're now portraying China as a peaceful superpower nation....

Couldn't be further from the truth !!!
 

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And, the most shocking part is that the Western Media as well believes what the CCP official statement is without analysing that its with their support that North Korea has been wagging its tail...

They're now portraying China as a peaceful superpower nation....

Couldn't be further from the truth !!!
well, personally speaking, I indeed dislike the leader of North korea. I just feel that Kim should be a crazy guy like Hilter . Of course , Hitler managed economy much better than Kim.

North Korea's decison has nothing to do with China
 

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well, personally speaking, I indeed dislike the leader of North korea. I just feel that Kim should be a crazy guy like Hilter . Of course , Hitler managed economy much better than Kim.

North Korea's decison has nothing to do with China
So, are you saying that you don't supply him weapons or any such technology and that he learnt to make nuclear derivatives, missiles etc all on his own without outside intervention???

I find that rather hard to believe given that you have been his staunches ally all through these years...
 

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So, are you saying that you don't supply him weapons or any such technology and that he learnt to make nuclear derivatives, missiles etc all on his own without outside intervention???

I find that rather hard to believe given that you have been his staunches ally all through these years...
N.korea's nuke is the hertage from Soviet and had nothing to do with China.

fact is that N.kroea can not afford expensive high-tech convetional weapons. while nuke is cheap.

To some extent, CHina is hijacked by N.korea----- neither can china uncrown crazy Kim by china itself , nor can china let USA invade N.korea and overthrew Kim.:2guns:
 

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N.korea's nuke is the hertage from Soviet and had nothing to do with China.
Wake up. Stop showing your ignorance.

Pakistan got nukes from China, and Iran and NK got blueprints for warheads from Pakistan courtesy A Q Khan. In turn, Pakistan got NK missile technology.

So if A=B, and B=C, go figure.:((
 

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well, India dislikes the Nepal's communist in power,but can India allow China to overthrow Nepal communist and occupy Nepal ?
With all due respect, I fail to see the analogy...

  1. Nepal doesn't threaten the world with Nukes and long range weapons
  2. Nepal doesn't threaten to nuke India or other countries with its weapons
  3. Nepal doesn't have a closed totalitarian regime
  4. Nepal doesn't have a long standing conflict with its neighbours

Frankly, I think we can discuss your Nepal strategy later in another thread... that's another appalling show of the sheer arrogance of your communist party...
 

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Wake up, stop this BS.

Pakistan got nukes from China, and Iran and NK got blueprints for warheads from Pakistan courtesy A Q Khan. In turn, Pakistan got NK missile technology.

So if A=B, and B=C, go figure.:((
the mainbody of N.korea nuke industry was buil with the help from Soviet in 1970s-1980s.

China didn'nt deliberately help N.korea with nuke .

China's policy is that " let N.Korea survive but never let N.kroea live too easy"

If N,korea can live on one piece of bread, CHina never give N.korea 2 pieces of bread.

what China wants most is to make N.kroea Survive but stiill hungery
 

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