No Women at the Top in China

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No Women at the Top in China

BEIJING — A row of nine men in identical-looking dark suits — the all-male line-up of the Standing Committee of the Politburo, the inner circle of power here — is a familiar image in China.

The lack of women at the top is perhaps no surprise. China is ''a male-dominated society,'' as Cai Xia, a professor at the party-building center in the Central Party School, recently told the People's Daily (here's the report in Chinese).

But how are women doing lower down in ''the organization,'' as the Communist Party is known here? (In Chinese that's zuzhi, pronounced dzoo zher.) Are women faring better lower down the ranks?

Not really, according to new figures released by the two most official news sources here, the party-run People's Daily and Xinhua, the state-run news agency.

In fact, the numbers show something interesting: Fewer than one in four of China's nearly 83 million party members are female, or just 23.3 percent. The party is largely a boys-only affair.

As the party gears up for its important 18th Congress later this year — when 2,270 delegates from around the country will gather in Beijing to formally choose a new leader, or general secretary (that person is widely expected to be the current, male, vice president, Xi Jinping) — provincial party committees have also been appointing new leaders in China's 31 provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions.

These people are crucially important. They will form the core of the next generation of party leaders who will work under the new general secretary, implementing orders from above and, sometimes, reaching their own local solutions to local issues.

But at the provincial level, too, women are poorly represented. Just one party secretary is a woman — Sun Chunlan, the party secretary of Fujian Province. There is one female provincial governor in China — Li Bin, governor of Anhui Province.

A total of 37 women (including Ms. Sun and Ms. Li) sit on the provincial standing committees, the inner circles of power at the provincial level. That amounts to just 9 percent of the standing committee members, the People's Daily reported.

There is a modest bright spot for women in the party: Of the 37 female standing committee members, a greater proportion is younger, which means they may rise further. Women under 55 accounted for 57 percent of their age cohort.

The lack of women serving as party secretaries in the provinces has consequences. An unwritten rule dictates that only those who have run a province may be promoted to the Standing Committee of the Politburo. Unless that changes, if women aren't being promoted to provincial leadership earlier in their careers, they have little chance of making it to the top.

For Ms. Cai of the Central Party School, the situation is clear: for a woman, ''It is extremely difficult to rise from the middle level to the top level,'' she told the People's Daily.

It's so hard for women to be promoted that ''if a female official wants to secure approval, she has to be absolutely elite,'' she said. ''And they frequently hit a glass ceiling on their way up.''

No Women at the Top in China - NYTimes.com
One learns of great achievements of China from our posters.

It is indeed worth knowing.

While China grows with money and infrastructure, it appears that the basic human requirements are missing.

Women are treated as sub humans.

If they were not, then surprising such a populous country with teeming millions, cannot have or produce one woman of intelligence or with leadership qualities.

Very surprising for a Nation which spews pious platitudes and want to educate the world of finer things of life!
 

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I am sure as an indian you truelly know the place of woman in society.

The female labor participation rate is 68 percent in China compared to 29 percent in India. I hope one day when situation has improved in China, you will finally take a look at your own country. :rolleyes:

Labor participation rate, female (% of female population ages 15+) | Data | Table

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am sure as an indian you truelly know the place of woman in society.
I sure do, quite a few are deciding the destiny of the country.

And quite a few are heading big corporates!

female labor participation rate is 68 percent in China
That is the fate of Chinese women - Labourers!

In India, they decide the destiny!

They are power brokers in India and not slaves to labour!

They are not contented to be second class as in China!

Indian women also head foreign MNCs!
 
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The gentleman is blaming us for not having a lady as the president. :shocked:
Men are more reliable than women when dealing with politics, it's generally as simple as that.
 

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The gentleman is blaming us for not having a lady as the president. :shocked:
Men are more reliable than women when dealing with politics, it's generally as simple as that.
NO.

A lady awyhere who can decide the Nations politics and economy,

That you feel that a man is better than a woman shows how stupid you can be.

Check the lady world leaders and how they have made monkeys of men and Nations.

See how Hillary Clinton is making a monkey of China.

Never underestimate women!

Darwin had said - The female of the species is more dangerous than the male!
 

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The gentleman is blaming us for not having a lady as the president. :shocked:
Men are more reliable than women when dealing with politics, it's generally as simple as that.
That is a dumb assumption. Even US doesn't have a lady president. Its not about a woman president but about women in powerful positions that behoves their dignity and a sign of a society showing equality and social progress.

In India you will find women as president of political parties, as chief ministers, as ministers, as head of companies and as head of institutes. Though their participation is not as good as I would like to have but definitely things are progressing in the right direction. A progress of country can be measured by the participation of women at all levels not just as laborers in factories.
 

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I sure do, quite a few are deciding the destiny of the country.

And quite a few are heading big corporates!



That is the fate of Chinese women - Labourers!

In India, they decide the destiny!

They are power brokers in India and not slaves to labour!

They are not contented to be second class as in China!

Indian women also head foreign MNCs!
Now I know why 2/3 of indian women dont have a job. Because they choose to!


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Now I know why 2/3 of indian women dont have a job. Because they choose to!
:rofl:
At least the chose to. They had a choice.

They don't have to work as forced labourers in slave camps called Chinese factories. :rofl: :rofl:
 

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At least the chose to. They had a choice.

They don't have to work as forced labourers in slave camps called Chinese factories. :rofl: :rofl:
Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap | World news | The Observer

Another they choose to? Dont be absurd. Clean up your own mess first before you point fingers at others. Indians laughing at chinese for female labour participation. How droll. :rolleyes:

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Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap | World news | The Observer

Another they choose to? Dont be absurd. Clean up your own mess first before you point fingers at others. Indians laughing at chinese for female labour participation. How droll. :rolleyes:
How the women at top become about slave children. Stick to the topic.

If you don't having anything to say about how 'Women at Top' in China is not happening then don't say it but don't make this off-topic. Its perhaps you have no defence that you have to come with these typical off-topic posts. Accept that China is a male dominated society with no opportunities for women at top position in politics.

More off-topic posts will bring infractions on you.
 

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Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap | World news | The Observer

Another they choose to? Dont be absurd. Clean up your own mess first before you point fingers at others. Indians laughing at chinese for female labour participation. How droll. :rolleyes:
As usual Chinese way of approaching issues.

Obfuscate and deflect.

It is agreed that you have no idea of English, but the topic is No Women at the Top in China

To help you let me give a rough translation:

没有一个妇女在china!顶部


Don't be Ping Pong!

Or be a ding bat!
 
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Indian 'slave' children found making low-cost clothes destined for Gap | World news | The Observer

Even on this do you want me to remind you of those slave children and brick klin and all that?
 

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Mr. Obama and Ms. Clinton are not good examples when serious politicians are referred to, at least not that qualified in Chinese people's mind. There lies a systematic distinction between US and China when their future leaderships are formed. A man or woman who has very limited experience in both basic civil level politics and higher international level politics will have no chance to be suddenly promoted as the head of China nowadays, and those special cases happened in Mao's late years all failed quickly in the end. But this is still OK to the United States because the true power is not held by the goverment itself and the true decision makers, or in another name advisors, are behind the president and his/her fellows.

Back to the topic, the situation in China is that there are far less women who have interest in participating political games at the very beginning, for most of them they simply don't care that at all. While the promotion procedure here is strictly one leveled up each time, no one can be elected as the president from a mayor in one night. Since the base of pyramid is already smaller than male's, even assumed that females share the same chance in promotion, the female's pyrimid is definitely shorter and the number above certain high level is of course out of the proportion.

And there are less Political-Right pressure in China, such as balance between Sex or among Races to affect the normal promotion procedure which is mainly based on abilities, relationships and past political records, especially when we are talking about promotions to the key positions in frame work.
 

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But this is still OK to the United States because the true power is not held by the goverment itself and the true decision makers, or in another name advisors, are behind the president and his/her fellows.
How do you come to that conclusion?

Are these women bimbos?

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What a lame excuse - the Chinese women are not interested in politics.

Heard of Madam Chiang Kai Shek, the woman behind the man in Power

or Mao's wife Jiang Qing, who was a part of the Gang of Four and was wanting power?
 

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一个

This is not necessary because the sentence became a woman, not women.

So,
没有妇女在中国顶部。
 

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2004-06 Minister of Women, Child Welfare and Community Service, 2006-09 Minister of Foreign Affairs, 2009-12 Vice-President, Founder and leader of the People's Party in 2011 after she fell out with the President who did not include her in the Cabinet, though she remains Vice-President according to the constitution and as such she took over as head of state after the death of her predecessor. (b. 1950-)


10.02.2012- Acting Prime Minister Adiatu Djaló Nandigna, Guinea Bissau

Also known as Maria Adiatu Diallo Nandigna, she was Minister of Culture, Youth and Sport 2007-08 and has been Second in Cabinet since 2008 and Minister of the Presidency of the Council of Ministers, Social Communication and Parliament from 2009.
 

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Having given all the lists of women as the Head of Govt, it shows the pathetic Chinese mentality that men are only fit and women are not as was mentioned by one Chinese around here!

And then they run helter skelter like scullery rats (metaphorically) running for cover with inane bleats that Chinese women are not interested in politics or like that wonderman who is adept in obfuscating and deflecting like a harried God's Gift to neurological aspects of the cranium, wasting everyone's time and bandwidth.
 
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^^ Considering the original article is from New York times, I'd say this is one of those "clueless poster not bothering to read the OP" situations.
 

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Considering that women's rights are neglected more in India that in China, I'd say this is one of those "pot calling the kettle black" situations.
Another one of the Chinese wonders.

English is too obscure for him to understand the topic.

Total decadence in modern thinking.

Stereotyped and archaic!

Still being enamoured thinking of the past of pigtails and bound feet!
 

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