News of the WS-15!

[tharun]

India doesn't care about IP from drug companies by making unlicensed generics so it definitely wouldn't care when it comes to national security

India dosen't care...? ever heard of court cases between govt and companies...for IP violation
Generics are made when the IP expires not before IP expiration...

 

[SexyChineseLady]

AURA is a drone....powered by dry thrust of a turbofan
Kaveri is not small weak engine..it is good engine with over weight...it had after burner with a 81 kN..but lca need 90+ kN

Okay, let's see if the WS-15 with 180kn gets in first on the J-20 or the Kaveri with 80kn and no ab on a drone.

 

[SexyChineseLady]

BTW, Chinese drones are already killing people with their missiles around the world. Please read my drone thread. Lots of videos there!

 

[airtel]

Okay, let's see if the WS-15 with 180kn gets in first on the J-20 or the Kaveri with 80kn and no ab on a drone.

we dont need 180 kn thrust we are making a medium size fighter AMCA = Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft , LCA = Light combat Aircraft , for heavy fighter we will use FGFA .

Life , reliability & Thrust to weight ratio is more important than wet thrust of 180 kn .

BTW, Chinese drones are already killing people with their missiles around the world. Please read my drone thread. Lots of videos there!

Chini drones are only Killing some random rebels which dont have any Radar or anti aircraft guns .

 

[captonjohn]

What is this discussion all about?

 

[sorcerer]

What is this discussion all about?

A chinese having blond moments and getting into a dick measuring contest on the internet!

 

[SexyChineseLady]

This thread is about the super cool development of the WS-15 which is the intended powerplant for future J-20 variants. It has reached 180kn of force in ground tests. It will soon begin testing on a CFTE Il-76 flying test platform. A major step towards induction.

For comparison, the F119 of the F-22 does around 160kn

 

[sjmaverick]

This thread is about the super cool development of the WS-15 which is the intended powerplant for future J-20 variants. It has reached 180kn of force in ground tests. It will soon begin testing on a CFTE Il-76 flying test platform. A major step towards induction.

For comparison, the F119 of the F-22 does around 160kn

If that is the case than throw some specs and development history about this so called super fooled WS 15..if the intention is to compare this versus that than please dont waste time in comparing donkeys like "WS"series with horses...like kaveri which agreed have to up its game with change in platform requirement. Why not open a thread on a Mars space mission to satisfy ego for comparing India's industrial and technical base versus china..

 

[SexyChineseLady]

This is the China country watch, you don't have to come here if you don't want to read about Chinese things like the WS-15.

Or is the China Watch only for Indians to insult Chinese people with racist comments to make themselves feel better about being so far behind?

 

[Pash]

Dear Sexy Lady,
Who has started this all. who has tried to compare. It fine if your what a shit (WS) -15 works. Who care

Another point, yes Indians are better. Recently got a chance to talk few Chinese pretty girls, they are intersted in Indian man and one of them told her cousin is marrying Indian man.

Why?

I can't tell you here.

Luck for your WS and future

 

[SexyChineseLady]

From Taobao: The WS-15 completed its ground test on August 9th 2015.

Its thrust reached during ground was actually 12% higher than the original core design which was TWR 10 according to the 2003 document. So instead of 180kn, this engine could produce near 200kn!

The TWR 11+ WS-15 variant is now declared official and is ready to start flight testing on the IL-76 platform!

 

[wuzetian]

I see, the testbed for the Kaveri is on il-76 with Russian markings. So India needed to send to Russia for all testing.

The Chinese testbed is in China at the CFTE (China Flight Test Establishment) in Xi'an.

But China also sent one engine to Russia for testing

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[cw2005]

This is the China country watch, you don't have to come here if you don't want to read about Chinese things like the WS-15.

Or is the China Watch only for Indians to insult Chinese people with racist comments to make themselves feel better about being so far behind?

You may have a valid point that this is the China Watch and it is OK to post whatever about China here. However, I personally disagree with the boasting and hurting of the Indian members‘feeling here. No one argue that China has been making rapid progress in the military technology sector comparative to other developing nations, but China is still playing the catch up game. The China Watch in this forum provides a good chance to increase Indian members’ understanding of China, not to deepen their hateful feeling.

 

[republic_roi97]

She definitely is not a chinese girl and definitely doesn't have an Indian boyfriend. Stop bullshitting, copying everything and making it on your own are two different things that the chinese have never understood. But on the brighter side, Kudos to china for their new engine regardless of it being a copy or not.

 

[republic_roi97]

Well OK and Kudos to Chinese for their fast paced developments. But you don't have to be a jerk about it. Tell me a single thing that you make is not a copy of some sorts ?? WS series as explained before by a member is knocked off from some other design.
Now Kaveri engine its ours, we can call it ours because it has been designed and developed in India without knocking off others products. Can you say the same for yourselves. Now is your time, enjoy it. Our time would come and then we'll enjoy. LOL

 

[SexyChineseLady]

Tell me a single thing that you make is not a copy of some sorts ?? WS series as explained before by a member is knocked off from some other design.

Again, that is the same racist excuse Indian used to denigrate the Chinese to make themselves feel better.

It also shows a complete lack of understanding of industrial processes.

You cannot "copy" an engine or an airframe like a piece of paper or software code. You need to build an entire industrial infrastructure that can manufacture thousands of parts.

No non-white nation outside China and maybe its East Asian neighbors Japan and S Korea can build an engine like a F404 even if you gave it the blueprints. It simply wouldn't have the infrastructure and India is no different from any other non-white nation.

The WS series from WS-6 to WS-10 to WS-15 were all designed and more importantly made in China. They might have use foreign data (from CMF56,etc) to decrease development time but they were all designed to use Chinese parts from Chinese manufacturers.

Because they use Chinese parts and are built inside a Chinese supply, testing and assembly eco system they can't be stopped by an outside embargo. This is why development in China is so quick and so prolific.

Now Kaveri engine its ours, we can call it ours because it has been designed and developed in India without knocking off others products.

Okay I agree the Kaveri is yours even though you needed assistance from the Russians and French every step of the way to design and test it. It also powers no plane and is therefore pretty much a failure so far. It is surprising that you have such a low and easy to pass standard for India.

Now the WS-10 -- which is designed, manufactured and tested entirely in China and is powering hundreds of Chinese Flankers -- is ours. You can call anything you're jealous of a "copy" but unlike the Kaveri it is designed to work and work entirely with Chinese components.

Now is your time, enjoy it. Our time would come and then we'll enjoy. LOL

Sorry, have you seen the multitudes of killer drones coming out at Zhuhai? They are all powered by Chinese poweplants -- not as well known as the WS-10 or 15 but indicative of the depth and breadth of China's industrial eco system.

India doesn't have a drone yet because it is waiting for an engine.

Sorry, with each new Chinese engine, the gap widens exponentially because it means that the Chinese industrial base can take something it controls entirely to experiment, change and improve while India is still waiting for something that actually works.

 

[armyofhind]

BTW, Chinese drones are already killing people with their missiles around the world. Please read my drone thread. Lots of videos there!

LOL. Best joke I heard today.
What a dumbass propaganda pushing machine this bitch is.

 

[armyofhind]

You may have a valid point that this is the China Watch and it is OK to post whatever about China here. However, I personally disagree with the boasting and hurting of the Indian members‘feeling here. No one argue that China has been making rapid progress in the military technology sector comparative to other developing nations, but China is still playing the catch up game. The China Watch in this forum provides a good chance to increase Indian members’ understanding of China, not to deepen their hateful feeling.

Don't you get it? This account itself has been created to push forth chinese propaganda and try to downplay Indians. That's all there is to it.

And this bitch is so stupid to even believe that her posts aren't showing it.

 

[armyofhind]

Now the WS-10 -- which is designed, manufactured and tested entirely in China and is powering hundreds of Chinese Flankers -- is ours. You can call anything you're jealous of a "copy" but unlike the Kaveri they were designed to work and work entirely with Chinese components.

WS-10 isn't yours. It's a re-engineering of the AL-31F to use locally manufactured Chinese parts. That's all. There is no difference in the design, thrust, or bypass ratio.

Stop posting your bullshit propaganda here yellow monkey. You will be called out and exposed at every turn.

 

[armyofhind]

For the benefit of my countrymen and to bring this yellow monkey to the reality here.. take a look at the following..

http://m.scmp.com/business/article/...eing-copycat-and-thats-why-its-tech-companies

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-downed-US-fighter-develop-stealth-jet.html

http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a746/3319656/

http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/1699756-7-military-weapons-china-copied-from-the-united-states/

http://www.defensenews.com/story/de...al-raises-reverse-engineering-issue/76102226/

Bitch ass Chinese lying through their teeth to try and prove they are worthy of recognition for having developed "new" technology.
When in reality, all they do is illegally copy the technology which another nation has perfected.