Navy carries out trials of new aircraft

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  1. square

    square Strategic Issues Senior Member

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    https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.indi...raft-carrier-new-aircraft-navy/1/1013849.html


    Aircraft manufacturers, including the French Rafale and American F-18, had taken part in the trials and were asked to provide more inputs on their respective plane's capabilities to be able to take off and land at the Vikramaditya, the sources said.

    The trials were held at INS Vikramaditya's home-base in Karwar in Karnataka. The 57 new planes would be used for operations from the INS Vikramaditya and the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) being built at the Cochin Shipyard Limited in Kochi along with the 45 MiG29Ks already imported from Russia.
     
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    As per the requirement projected by the Navy, it wants to manufacture these planes in India as the Request for Information had asked the original equipment manufacturers to respond to it.

    It also sought to know at what level of Transfer of Technology (ToT) and deep repair expertise the company is willing to share with India.

    It also asked the vendor to specify critical technologies required and comment on its ability to absorb the aircraft manufacturing technology at the levels of sub vendor/supply chain elements in India through ToT from OEM and its partners.
     
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    Meanwhile in other news, just 24 hours ago a mountaineer has found the remains of Homi Bhabha and his plane which was crashed by the CIA. I hope the nation remembers that while doing trials of F18.
     
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    square Strategic Issues Senior Member

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    ToT under , make in india means only one fighter......Rafale !!!


    also along with the news of trail , navy has also given a briffing on the resently held malabar excersice.....

    https://www.google.co.in/amp/m.ndtv.com/india-news/when-indian-mig-29ks-clashed-with-us-super-hornets-over-the-bay-of-bengal-1725957?amp=1&akamai-rum=off

    it was stated that mig29k perform well against f18......
    means they are rulling out f18 ....
     
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    It should have been ruled out from trials itself.

    First they tried F16 for the single engine fighter competition under US pressure, then ruled it out, then the US put more pressure then we ended up buying GE F414 engines. So, in one way or the other, we became dependent on them.
     
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    actually i was surprise to see president Macron doing this buddy style handshake with modi at the g20 resently....
     
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    Isn't the F18 too big to fly from the Vikramaditya? I thought it doesn't fit on the aircraft elevators.
     
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    RAFALE-M with folding wings will be the winner of MRCBF competition.
    Except high cost , everything is fits well in IN needs...
     
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    ^^ Rafale doesn't have fold-able wings.
     
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    TPFscopes Rest in Peace Senior Member

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    Folding wings is the requirement set by IN just to hold them in more numbers on Carrier. DASSAULT is taking this consideration and modification is under development.
     
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    Rafale seems far fetched after the Obama admin meetings and working groups.
     
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    tech denial on f16 could also neans no tot posible for f18 too....

    thats leave only rafale and mig29k...

    will FM clear the fund for 57 rafale to navy ?
    considering they only alliow 36 for iaf...???
     
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    It seems navy has put the planes for third carrier on back burner for now. That means third carrier will come online only after2030. Same with rafale even if they sign deal by 2019-20 plane might start coming by2022-23 . So money will be planned and paid over at least a decade.
     
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    Also naval aviation might be priorities as our trade baloons in the next decade. So govt might just find the money for this on priority basis.
     
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    From where you got this idea??
     
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    not like this exactly.
    its pretty much likely that IAF will order for another batch of rafale when deliveries of first batch will start i.e. 2019.

    good news is that Dassault promised to build Rafales in india if they got orders for nearly 100unit.
    if navy gives green light to Rafale than total number becomes 36+57=93 and total becomes 93+36=129

    RDEL already preparing their infra to build jets as soon as they got orders. this will cut the delivery time for indian orders.
     
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    Nope. First 36 for iaf are being built in France already. Reliance will probably provide maintaining facility + offset works .

    Navy order is a separate deal all together .

    And there is no guarantee that additional rafale would be ordered for iaf although that is likely.
     
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    you can mark my words that there will an another trench of Rafales.
    and yes, its correct that first batch will be manufactured in france.
    i know naval order is seperate deal but will be combined under total order to dassault.
    Also RDEL is only a offset partner for now but they will manufacture/assemble Rafales in india, if Dassalt won orders
     
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    "Fly, do not be stingy, buy a painting"

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    Americans in the fight for the Indian order for a "twin-engine deck fighter" pay for all kinds of PR campaigns in the press, such as the MiG-29K after each landing on the aircraft carrier should be sent for repair. Aha. Not very strong, type. No, there are enough problems with "migraine" - landing on a "floating airfield" has always been extreme, and there are many subtleties there. But, but, but ... is not it better, kuma, to turn around on yourself?

    Another plume of "Super Hornita" - at the international airport in Bahrain. With all the honest people: after taking off from the "Nimitz" engine refused and, you see, something else. I had to land in Bahrain. Well, how to "sit down"? I slipped through the entire strip, "successfully catapulted." Something like this. Our snide noted for a couple of days before that two-thirds of the "Hornets" are now non-flying.

    Gak, hack, and the brake parachute to put all the useful ...

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