National Socialist Heinrich Himmler Fascination With Ancient India

[Bornubus]

You are a victim of nazi mythology. They were severely beaten by those they were considering as their racial inferiors and slaves, the Russians and the other people of USSR. And they were severely beaten by the Americans too anywhere they fought against them.

What !

You forgot mighty French

So it was US, Commonwealth, Soviets whose combined Resources, military, manpower encircled Germans and ultimate defeat.

Is this a Fkn achievement ?

 

[Bornubus]

krishna speaks of many things.

He gave many explanations regarding many variety of topics.
Bhakthi is one thing. And doing duty is another thing.

Emergence of sikhism was too late to stop Islamic cults. It preserved some of the important things though.
You are too much of Kshatriya. May be that is the reason why you are attracted to the war side of Sri Krishna.

It is broad topic. And I am getting sleepy. We will continue tomorrow.

Lamo

Bhakti, basically is a medieval phenomena both in North - South and East - West.

Tell me where was Bhakti before 700 AD.

Tell me why didn't we heard any Bhakti saint like Chaitnya who introduced "keertan" perfectly suited to elderly women and Kripalu Maharaj type.

So just like Kripalu Maharaj, Chaitanya and Bhakti their contribution to this nation is = 0

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Secondly emergence of Sikhism was not against Islam. Infact Sikhism is not against any religion but speaks against evils of Hinduism.

 

[Tactical Frog]

I think there is an Indian fascination for Nazi Germany which can only lead to disaster.
I was myself a victim of fascination for the Werhmacht, reading everything about Rommel and the Afrika Korps. But just like the great Rommel whom I still respect and admire, I understood that nazism was a dead end and an absurdity !

 

[OrangeFlorian]

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Julius Evola
Savitri Devi
Miguel Serrano

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ok have fun you little scamps you

 

[Bornubus]

I think there is an Indian fascination for Nazi Germany which can only lead to disaster.
I was myself a victim of fascination for the Werhmacht, reading everything about Rommel and the Afrika Korps. But just like the great Rommel whom I still respect and admire, I understood that nazism was a dead end and an absurdity !

I think there is an Indian fascination for Nazi Germany which can only lead to disaster.
I was myself a victim of fascination for the Werhmacht, reading everything about Rommel and the Afrika Korps. But just like the great Rommel whom I still respect and admire, I understood that nazism was a dead end and an absurdity !

Tell

I think there is an Indian fascination for Nazi Germany which can only lead to disaster.
I was myself a victim of fascination for the Werhmacht, reading everything about Rommel and the Afrika Korps. But just like the great Rommel whom I still respect and admire, I understood that nazism was a dead end and an absurdity !

Tell me what is wrong with the Nazi concept of -

Nationalism, scientific temper which reflected in German engineering, expansionism and securing one's distinct identity.

I know their Racial beliefs are not applicable in India as India itself is made of several Races bonded by Common religion and Culture of 1 billion people.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

Tell


Tell me what is wrong with the Nazi concept of -

Nationalism, scientific temper which reflected in German engineering, expansionism and securing one's distinct identity.

I know their Racial beliefs are not applicable in India as India itself is made of several Races bonded by Common religion and Culture of 1 billion people.

Those several races are also bonded by common mixed aryan/ dravidian blood if you exclude northeasterners from the equation

 

[OrangeFlorian]

does anyone here know of the great oswald mosley?

 

[OrangeFlorian]

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[Tactical Frog]

Tell


Tell me what is wrong with the Nazi concept of -

Nationalism, scientific temper which reflected in German engineering, expansionism and securing one's distinct identity.

I know their Racial beliefs are not applicable in India as India itself is made of several Races bonded by Common religion and Culture of 1 billion people.

Okay ... well if nazism was just about these four criteria you mention it would not make headlines anywhere
Glad that you don' t embrace their racial views.
Correct me if I am wrong but nazis also choosed to believe in the guidance of an almost supernatural gifted Fuhrer- a leader who would ensure victory over all their ennemies, without having to bother about elections and rule of law, freedom of speech and medias. Is that a model you would like to see replacing Indian democracy ?

 

[OrangeFlorian]

@Tactical Frog
Indian Democracy exploits caste, ethnic and religious divisions within the country to the extent where the process leading up an election is just nominally controlled chaos in some parts. We are not Britain or France or America where everyone is either simply left or right that doesn't work here.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

As of 16 September 2014, the total number of parties registered was 1761, with six national, 49 state[2] and 1706 unrecognised parties.

 

[Screambowl]

Any power right or wrong if wins a war becomes correct. This is why we say might is right.

If Hitler had won the war the world would have called him right
The Allied won the war , they are now correct.

The basic fundamental is you have to perform your karma. The only one reason Lord Krishna stayed with the Pandavas because of the Dharma. The Kaurava's were suppose to give back the Hasthina pur after exile but werent given.

 

[OrangeFlorian]

Any power right or wrong if wins a war becomes correct. This is why we say might is right.

If Hitler had won the war the world would have called him right
The Allied won the war , they are now correct.

The basic fundamental is you have to perform your karma. The only one reason Lord Krishna stayed with the Pandavas because of the Dharma. The Kaurava's were suppose to give back the Hasthina pur after exile but werent given.

its the same thing with Muhammad but I don't see him questioning Muslims. Voltaire anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahomet_(play)

 

[Screambowl]

its the same thing with Muhammad but I don't see him questioning Muslims. Voltaire anyone?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahomet_(play)

There were no muslims before mohammad. Thats why synonym for muslims is mohammadan.

Secondly you are relating Mahabharat with a total different story or fiction and both of them are differeng.

The story you mentioned give one message but Mahabharata is our history and gives many messages and it is related with other scriptures.

It is the connection of all scriptures with eachother os what makes karma and dharma binding together.

 

[Bharat Ek Khoj]

Germans claimed they were the master RACE blond hair and blue eyes. Can you clarify?

Blond hair and blue eyes make them superior race ? Is that a criteria ?

 

[Peter]

You seem to have a fascination with Lolis it seems.:biggrin2::bounce:

 

[Kshatriya87]

Yeah because God said once during war what he thinks. And its not a book.
Righteous thing is what Arjun did fighting adharma.

If Arjun was fighting adharma and kauravas were the ones doing adharma, why did the kauravas went to heaven and pandavas went to hell?

 

[Bornubus]

So Krishna ji cheated Kauravs and at several instances bend the rules in the favor of Pandavas, this is according to Mahabharata.

Now who will judge his karma and who will decide it was according to Dharma ?

 

[Bornubus]

Okay ... well if nazism was just about these four criteria you mention it would not make headlines anywhere
Glad that you don' t embrace their racial views.
Correct me if I am wrong but nazis also choosed to believe in the guidance of an almost supernatural gifted Fuhrer- a leader who would ensure victory over all their ennemies, without having to bother about elections and rule of law, freedom of speech and medias. Is that a model you would like to see replacing Indian democracy ?

Lol Indian de

Okay ... well if nazism was just about these four criteria you mention it would not make headlines anywhere
Glad that you don' t embrace their racial views.
Correct me if I am wrong but nazis also choosed to believe in the guidance of an almost supernatural gifted Fuhrer- a leader who would ensure victory over all their ennemies, without having to bother about elections and rule of law, freedom of speech and medias. Is that a model you would like to see replacing Indian democracy ?

Lol Indian democracy !

For the most part of our history since 1947 its more like Oligarchy. There is nothing wrong if a country govern by a single charismatic leader.

Imagine if Hitler could've had diverted the energy of German Nation from war and expansion. Soviet and China became super power under the dictatorship not democracy.

Bose had the vision for India that democracy is not suited for Indian Masses. He was absolutely right.

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Now, Look what freedom of press etc doing in India.

For example - Even the result of tank ammunition is known to our enemy while India can't tell how many Jets are crash in China.

 

[Ancient Indian]

Lamo

Bhakti, basically is a medieval phenomena both in North - South and East - West.

Tell me where was Bhakti before 700 AD.

Tell me why didn't we heard any Bhakti saint like Chaitnya who introduced "keertan" perfectly suited to elderly women and Kripalu Maharaj type.

So just like Kripalu Maharaj, Chaitanya and Bhakti their contribution to this nation is = 0

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Secondly emergence of Sikhism was not against Islam. Infact Sikhism is not against any religion but speaks against evils of Hinduism.

The main evil of Hinduism at the time, was Islam. Brahmins ares second in the line.
I had seen pictures depicting the true history of India. Guru Gobindh singh's story and khalsa story is main focus in initial training camps of Sangh.

There was Bhakthi before 700 AD. Have you ever heard of alwars or nayanars?
They were famous in south.

Kripalu Maharaj, Chaitanya may not have contributed much to nation. But they did great service regarding Moksha.

Moksha and Dharma, both are equally important.