National Higher Education Entrance Examination of China,Day one

[s002wjh]

no in DoD or any defense contractor, which require security clearance, only US citizen can apply. they will have significant amount of background check, espeically if they didnt live in US for too long, so those naturlized citizen who didn't live US too long or have family back in their home country typically don't pass the background check or their clearance will get revoked when they travel aboard frequently. i know this cause i'm working in defense

 

[SPIEZ]

no in DoD or any defense contractor, which require security clearance, only US citizen can apply. they will have significant amount of background check, espeically if they didnt live in US for too long, so those naturlized citizen who didn't live US too long or have family back in their home country typically don't pass the background check or their clearance will get revoked when they travel aboard frequently. i know this cause i'm working in defense

whatever, US citizens or not theie country of origin would be some other am I right?

 

[SPIEZ]

BTW, how would u judge a student?
Math and english alone?

 

[nimo_cn]

BTW, how would u judge a student?
Math and english alone?

National Higher Education Entrance Examination - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"3+2" Examination System"3" refers to three compulsory subjects, including "Chinese, Mathematics and English". "2" refers to selecting two subjects either from Politics, History or Geography for arts students, or from Biology, Chemistry or Physics for science students.
[edit] "3+X" Examination SystemAs a pilot examination system used in order to promote education system reform, this examination system has been implemented in most parts of the country.

"3" refers to compulsory subjects, including "Chinese, Mathematics and English".
"X" means that students can choose, according to their own interests, one or two subjects from either arts subjects (Politics, History and Geography), or science subjects (Biology, Physics and Chemistry).
[edit] "4+X" Examination SystemThis system is used after the New Curriculum Reform being employed in Guangdong province.

"X" means that according to their own interests, candidates can choose one or two subjects either from arts subjects, including Politics, History and Geography (Politics and Geography cannot be chosen simultaneously), or from science subjects, including Biology, Physics and Chemistry (Physics and Biology cannot be chosen simultaneously).
Chinese and a foreign language are compulsory. Two separate Mathematics tests are designed respectively for arts students and science students.
In addition to three compulsory subjects and X subject, arts students have to take comprehensive tests of arts, and science students have to take comprehensive tests of science.
[edit] "3+1+X" Examination SystemThis system has been implemented in Shanghai since the employment of comprehensive courses.

"3" refers to three compulsory subjects "Chinese, Mathematics and a foreign language", with 150 scores for each subject.
"1" refers to one subject that candidates choose according to their own interests and specialty from "Politics, History, Geography, Physics, Chemistry and Biology". This subject accounts 150 scores when admitted by universities and colleges at undergraduate level. The score is not included in the total score when admitted by vocational and technical colleges. Therefore, candidates can give up this subject when applying for colleges at vocational and technical level.
"X" refers to comprehensive ability test, which is categorized into arts tests and science tests. Arts students can either choose one subject from Politics, History and Geography, or take an arts comprehensive test when giving up "1' subject. Science students can either choose one subject from Physics, Chemistry and Biology, or take a science comprehensive test when giving up "1" subject. Regardless of arts and science categories, all the comprehensive ability tests cover knowledge of six subjects, including Politics, History, Geography, Physics, Chemistry and Biology. In the first volume of the arts test, number of questions related to arts subjects exceeds science questions, and vice versa; the second volume of the two tests are the same.
[edit] "3+2+X" Examination SystemThis is a pilot college entrance examination system implemented by the Jiangsu Province in 2003 (still in use in 2004) after examining other testing systems.

"3" refers to three compulsory subjects "Chinese, mathematics and a foreign language."
"2" refers to choosing two subjects from the following six areas "politics, history, geography, physics, chemistry, biology,"
"X" refers to a comprehensive science or liberal arts exam, which is not recorded in the total score, only for university admission reference.
[edit] "3+X+1" Examination SystemThis is part of the curriculum reform in China.

"3" refers to Chinese, Mathematics and a foreign language, which are compulsory testing subjects for each candidate.
"X" means choosing one, according to the students' interest, of the two comprehensive tests in either sciences or liberal arts.
"1" refers to a basic proficiency test on skills that high school graduates needs and should have in order to adapt to social life. This college entrance examination system was implemented for the first time in Shandong in 2007.

s002wjh has a point, Chinese education system is a flawed system and possesses some inherent shortcomings.

Basically, Chinese NHEEE, along with Chinese education system, is a compromise between equality and efficiency, hence isn't the best way to foster and recruit talents.

 

[s002wjh]

whatever, US citizens or not theie country of origin would be some other am I right?

NO
majority of DoD employee are US born. naturlized are usually live in US 10+yrs. you think DoD just gonna hire some new foreign grad who has family tied with a foreign country, and only live in US for few years. unlikely they will pass the background check, thats why most researcher/scientist/engineers working in defense are american born, consists majority of caucasian.

anyway we are off topic.

alot chinese recognize the shortcoming of chinese education, memorization type of education alone is not good enough, china need a system of mixing memorization/free thinking.

 

[SPIEZ]

s002wjh has a point, Chinese education system is a flawed system and possesses some inherent shortcomings.

Basically, Chinese NHEEE, along with Chinese education system, is a compromise between equality and efficiency, hence isn't the best way to foster and recruit talents.

Neither is the 12th standard examinations, but my govt doesn't agree

But on a broader basis how would you judge a student?
For eg the Graduate Record Examinations of the US, which is equivalent to studying a bachelors degree bin India, would test a student on his English and Math skills. Are those alone enough?

 

[SPIEZ]

memorization type of education alone is not good enough, china need a system of mixing memorization/free thinking.

True so what is required to judge a student?
Here in India we have something called the IIT's which is being run by the central govt, they are the best in India, however not managed to get a very good international ranking. Moreover they double up as a HIGH PAYING EMPLOYMENT EXCHANGE.

It requires 4 years of training beside the standard school curriculum, and this training is also expensive and time consuming.

At the end, a mech engg from the IIT, goes on to work as an investment banker.

 

[s002wjh]

average grade over the careers of the student, lab, projects, any award for math, scienice competition etc etc plus several exams, not just 1 BIG exam determine all. china college entry exam is basically do or die, if they didn't score a good grade there are done. also encourage student free think, not just memorize the equation, chinese teacher has a habit of shut down student who question/free thinking too much.