National Civil Aviation Sector

[Zebra]

C-NM5 Civil Aircraft, India

C-NM5 is a new civilian aircraft indigenously developed in India by the government-owned Council for Scientific and Industrial Research (CSIR), National Aerospace Laboratories (NAL), Mahindra Aerospace (MAPL) and its Australian subsidiary GippsAero.
It is the first 50:50 public private partnership aircraft development project in the country. The five-seat, turbo-prop plane was earlier known as NM5-100.

The first prototype of the C-NM5 light utility aircraft made its maiden flight in September 2011 at Latrobe regional airport near the GippsAero manufacturing facility in Australia.

The flight was conducted for 45 minutes to test the basic handling of the aircraft and it was subsequently followed by several flight tests. The aircraft is currently in the final flight test phase to evaluate the control and stability of the NM5 in different flight regimes.

Development of the C-NM5

NAL tied-up with Mahindra Aerospace in December 2008 to develop general aviation aircraft. The first prototype aircraft took about three years for development.

Its assembly was completed by a rapid prototyping team at GippsAero in Australia in ten months. The aircraft was developed at a cost of about $10 to $15m.

The aircraft aims to achieve Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) Part 23 certification in the normal category for international marketing opportunities. It is expected to be priced at about $0.4m and compete with the US Cessna.

The NAL and Mahindra are also developing turbetan family, a regional transport aircraft (RTA-70) and a 50-90 seat turbo-prop.

C-NM5 expected orders

The C-NM5 aircraft is expected to have a global market of 75-100 planes a year after five years from the time of commercial production. It has received an order of 20 planes from China.



Assembly / construction of the Indian civil aircraft

The demonstrator plane was planned to be fabricated at CSIR-NAL facility. NAL, however, could not receive DGCA's Production Organisation Approval (POA) and the assembly was shifted to GippsAero facility in Australia.

The Directorate General of Civil Aviation in India is expected to certify the second prototype by December 2012.

MAPL is also building a new aircraft frame and components manufacturing facility in Bangalore in Karnataka, India. It is expected to start mass production of C-NM5 in 2014 with NAL certification. The aircraft raw material will be imported. The company will produce the planes from GippsAero plant under CASA certification till then.

Design / features of the C-NM5 light utility aircraft

The aircraft has large access doors, a flat floor, multiple seating configurations, new-generation seats and a reconfigurable rear cabin.

The flexible space can accommodate two stretchers and life support systems. The airframe of C-NM5 is an all metal construction with fairings and composite cowling.

The aircraft is 8.8m long and 3.1m high with a wing span of 10.9m and wing area of 16m2. The landing gear is non-retractable. The aircraft has simple systems for easy maintenance.

The air-conditioned glass cockpit has options of Electronic Flight Instruments System (EFIS), 2-Axis autopilot integrated with GPS-enabled NAV/COM, advanced sound-proofing and cabin audio system and day / night VFR / IFR.

Avionics and electrical systems onboard

The aircraft consists of avionic systems such as transponders, NAV/COM/GPS, AMS, course deviation indicator (CDI) and emergency locator transmitter (ELT). The electrical systems include 24V DC electrical systems, 28V, 70A external generator and 24V, 19Ah maintenance free battery.

The C-NM5 aircraft has a single Lycoming IO-540 K1A5 engine. It is a six-cylinder air-cooled horizontally opposed engine with bore of 5.125in (130.2mm), stroke of 4.375in (111.1mm), displacement of 541.5in³ (8.9L) and dry weight of 199kg.

The valve train comprises two overhead valves per cylinder. The engine uses 100 octane rating gasoline with fuel injection system. The 3-bladed constant-speed propeller of the engine produces 300bhp @ 2,700rpm.

The international standard atmosphere (ISA) performance of the C-NM5 includes take off distance of 500m and landing distance of 450m, maximum level speed of 296km/h, rate of climb of 335m/min (1,100fpm), flaps-up stall speed of 110km/h and flaps-down stall speed of 96km/h.

It has a range of 1,296km for 320kg payload and cruise altitude of about 3,050m-4,572m. The power-to-weight ratio is 1.12 kW/kg. It carries useful load of 580kg.

The aircraft can be used for multiple roles such as training pilots, VIP travel, cargo transporter, tourism, air taxi and medical evacuation.

C-NM5 Civil Aircraft - Aerospace Technology

 

[Ray]

The biggest problem for any totally indigenous aircraft is the designing of the engine.

The HF 24 designed by Kurt Tank, the famed German aeronautical engineer had designed the HF 24, which was a pacesetter in design at that time, was a failure because the design capable of Mach II, could not even achieve Mach I because there was no compatible engine!

HF 24

Kurt Tank, designed Focke-Wulf Fw 190 fighter aircraft (Würger). It was the mainstay Luftwaffe single-seat fighter-bomber during World War II,

 

[Shaitan]

I've heard it's a stretched NAL Hansa.

 

[Zebra]

Someone , guide me about this please . Thanks in advance .
Which modern engine is suitable for HF-24 ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Now, there are many engines available for HF-24 like the once used in LCA..

But the HF-24 is now a outdated deign..

 

[venkat]

" It has received an order of 20 planes from China."OMG!!!!! copy cats!!!!

 

[Bhadra]

How different is it from Cessna single engine turbo prop ?
Any one please?

I have done quite a mileage in that terrifying toy.

 

[anoop_mig25]

why is gov in designing/manufacturing of civilian planes. i think i this area gov should atleast go for privitisation or 50:50 partnership with 50:50 from private firm

 

[Abhi9]

Re: ADA Tejas (LCA) - III

Found this documentary on saras =its old but worth a look ------sorry for of topic as i couldn't find an appropriate thread

News and Events, NAL, Bangalore

 

[agentperry]

saras is big waste- its so damn heavy and expensive that on one hand i can buy and maintain entire plane for its life and on the other hand i can just buy one heavy saras.

 

[Sam2012]

NAL should give production right of RTA to mahindra or tata , real problem is with HAL they right now have no capacity

Su-30MKI
LCA
MMRCA Rafale
MTA
Helicopter projects
Hawk
IJT
UAV etc

they don't plan better & make a mess of it , NAL should seriously think of parting ways with HAL

RTA can be used as Maritime aircraft & AWACS platform as well if thing go well

 

[abhi_the _gr8_maratha]

British cos show interest to partner with HAL for Regional Transport Aircraft programme | idrw.org

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Single Engine Regional Air travel ..

Condition : Need For Regional Airline

The topic raised here as India is a huge country with a billion plus population and has huge potential for regional air-travel, People here have money and have willing to travel by air but unfortunately this country has none in mass, Over that their are plenty of unused Airport all over the country in hundreds according to this report ===========>>

Unused airstrips pose security threat: IAF chief

BANGALORE: The over 400 unused airstrips in the country posed a security threat as they could be used by light aircraft for carrying out terrorist activities, the IAF chief said."They (unused airfields) pose a threat in a way that some light aircraft can use unused airstrips for not so honest purposes," Air chief marshal Major told a press conference here.

Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rity-threat-IAF-chief/articleshow/4119325.cms

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So, In short their are infrastructure though no maintain and outdated and hence scope for establishing Gov / Pvt Airline, Taking an example of United States where regional airlines were an important building block of today's passenger air system. The U.S. Government encouraged the forming of regional airlines to provide services from smaller communities to larger towns, where air passengers could connect to a larger network.

Such System Designed to facilitate transportation between small General Aviation airports using small aircraft as an alternative to traditional airline travel. A new generation of personal transportation aircraft were developed by industry from around the world. These new aircraft appear to be economically and operationally viable for use in on-demand transportation fleet operations.

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There are two main ways for a regional airline to do business:

1. As an affiliated airline, contracting with a major airline, operating under their brand name, and filling two roles: delivering passengers to the major airline's hubs from surrounding communities, known as regional feeds, and increasing frequency of service on mainline routes during times when demand does not warrant use of large aircraft, known as commuter flights.

2. Operating as an independent airline under their own brand, mostly providing service to small and isolated communities, for whom the airline is the only reasonable link to a larger town.

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Interestingly Development >

India's first intrastate Airlines in MP

The first intrastate Airlines comes operational in India. It is Ventura Airconnect who has launched the first intrastate, nonscheduled airline in Madhya Pradesh. It operates twice daily flights between different city pairs within the state. From its bases at Bhopal and Indore, the airline connects Jabalpur, Gwalior, Khajuraho, Agra, Satna, Rewa and tiger resort destinations of Kanha and Bhandavgarh. Uttam Bose, founder of Air Sahara, that was later bought and integrated into Jet Airways, serves as the managing director of Ventura Airconnect. The company has invested $3 million and currently has three nine-seat Cessna Grand Caravans fitted with glass cockpits. It leases the aircraft from Cessna Finance Corp. and uses a DGCA-approved, third-party MRO for maintenance. Ventura plans to field a fleet of 19 aircraft in three years. It will then be able to fly nearly five million passengers per year with each aircraft making an average of eight trips a day. Madhya Pradesh will underwrite three to four seats on every flight for three years and refund the VAT on fuel for five years..

Source : http://aviationherald.org/2012/02/indias-first-intrastate-airlines-in-mp-3-cessna-to-start-with/

 

[Ray]

Ineresting.


Why has this thread been closed?

 

[Ray]

Accelerated efforts on to develop North East states: VK Singh

India today said plans are afoot to form a regional airline to improve air connectivity in eight North Eastern states, including Arunachal Pradesh, besides accelerating the development of rail and road networks in the remote region.

On a visit to China to attend a conference on the peace and security in Afghanistan, Minister of State for External Affairs and North East Region V K Singh declined to comment on different perceptions India and China have on development of the border region due to the boundary dispute.


Singh, who was the former Army Chief, gave a broad outline about how development plans are being carried out to improve the infrastructure and employment opportunity in the eight states including Arunachal Pradesh which China claims as Southern Tibet.

He said a regional airline is being contemplated to operate small aircraft which can carry passengers and connect them to Air India at a bigger airports.

He specially spoke of Arunachal Pradesh where an airport is coming up at its capital Itanagar.

Land problem has been sorted and the airport is coming up, he said listing out two other small airports in the border state.

"Hopefully Tawang will take aircraft some day but it will take time," he said referring to the border town.

An airport is difficult there due to problems in acquiring the land as it was a hilly area, he said.

Singh said after the new government came to power, 58 per cent increase in railway budget allocation has been made for the region and accelerated efforts were being made to develop highways in the area.

Also inland water ways over Brahmaputra and Barrack are being developed, he said.

On concerns over China constructing dams over Brahmaputra rive, he said an integrated study of the Brahmaputra basin is being carried out, specially the water availability of its tributaries.

The study will provide the data needed to assess Brahmaputra water flows, he said.

First priority is to develop infrastructure in all the eight North East states, followed by job creation and skill development.

The first skill development school in Guwahati and soon other states too will have a school each, he said.

Besides Arunachal Pradesh eight North East states are: Assam, Manipur, Meghalaya, Mizoram, Nagaland Tripura and Sikkim.

Accelerated efforts on to develop North East states: VK Singh - Economic Times

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Condition : Poor Infrastructure & Short Runways

Malda Airport

Balurghat Airport

chakulia airport

Safdarjung Airport

Bellary_Airport

Shimla Airport

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Majority of these Airports, Are nothing but simple runways with no standing infrastructure for support, Even the condition of runways are very poor with limited length of runways under 1000ms, Operation of large or even medium Aircraft are difficult from here but Light, An Airport design to operate passengers and Aircraft consist facilities to store and maintain aircraft, and a control tower. An airport consists of a landing area, which comprises an aerially accessible open space including at least one operationally active surface such as a runway for a plane to take off or a helipad, and often includes adjacent utility buildings such as control towers, hangars and terminals. Larger airports may have fixed base operator services, airport aprons, air traffic control centres, passenger facilities such as restaurants and lounges, and emergency services.

Renovation of such small airports are important but that is time consuming effort if one is looking for a world class airport in one go, To make sure operational Airports of the existing Airstrips, It is important to take only needed measure to make sure Airport gets operational, In time the other important elements can be added ..

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Low-cost airports have been in the news recently, it highlights the growing rush by state governments keen to develop low-cost airports in Tier-II and Tier-III cities. States like Maharashtra, Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and Tamil Nadu are busy acquiring land and handing out sops to attract private bids to set up such airports. In all, some 37 greenfield or unutilised airport projects have been identified by various states.

Seeking Landing Rights: Proposed sites for low-cost airports

Maharashtra - Kolhapur, Latur, Yavatmal, Ratnagiri, Nanded, Osmanabad, Sholapur, Karad, Sangli, Amravati, Gondia, Baramati, Shirdi, Jalgaon, Solapur, Akola
Karnataka - Shimoga, Gulbarga, Hassan, Bijapur, Bellary, Karwar
Andhra Pradesh - Nellore, Kadapa/Ongole, Ramagundam, Tadepalligudem
Tamil Nadu - Tuticorin, Sriperumbudur
Kerala - Kannur
Rajasthan - Ajmer, Mount Abu
West Bengal - Kanchrapara, Barrackpore, Durgapur
Orissa - Jharsuguda
Punjab Ludhiana, Patiala

The Tata Group has tied up with Singapore's Changi, while German Fraport AG has joined hands with dlf. Other interested firms include the Anil Ambani-promoted Reliance Energy and infrastructure majors GMR, GVK, L&T and the Raheja Group. "These low-cost airports will encourage economic activity in small districts and towns, help in decongesting the metro airports and also give an impetus to regional airlines,Globally, of course, such airports provide alternatives to the major hub airports and are used by low-cost carriers flying smaller aircraft. "These airports have to be more convenient and cheaper for its users. It has just an airstrip, a basic terminal building with air traffic control and night-landing facilities. A typical low-cost airport with no frills can be built for Rs 40-50 crore," says Captain Gopinath, MD, Air Deccan, a member of the GVK, Raheja and IDFC consortium that is looking at cities in Andhra as possible destinations.

A more liberal public-private model for such airports is being put in place. A new policy on greenfield airports, recently submitted to the cabinet for approval, allows state governments to set up such airports by themselves or through any designated entity or a joint venture company. "These airports are expected to allow up to 100 per cent foreign ownership where investors could even be foreign airport companies or airlines,'' Maharashtra has decided to hand over 16 small airports and airstrips in the state to private parties for development. "We will offer huge real estate opportunities to set up IT parks, flying clubs etc and offer discounted ATF," says R.C. Sinha, MD, Maharashtra Airport Development Corporation. Apart from Amravati, Maharashtra is also looking at developing basic airports at cities like Yavatmal and Ratnagiri. In the same vein,

R. Ramasundaram, chairman, Tamil Nadu Investment Development Corporation, says, "There is a large scope of connecting manufacturing hubs Sriperumbudur and Tuticorin. Especially as there is demand given that all domestic airlines have exponentially increased their flights to other existing non-metro airports like Trichy and Coimbatore."

Andhra too is in conversation with Captain Gopinath. Says he: "An Air Deccan team has already spoken to the Andhra government and the state is keen on building low-cost airports near Adilabad, Nellur and Khammam and so on." Kerala is also planning to develop the Kannur airport on the lines of the Cochin International Airport Ltd (CIAL), India's first privately owned airport. Says A.C.K. Nair, airport director, CIAL, "We have been approached by various state governments and private consortiums to partner and build low-cost airports across the country. But, instead of going through a bidding process, we would like to be preferential invitees." Other states like West Bengal, Madhya Pradesh are also getting into the act.

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Just to add, Gov airline should come forward first and expect others latter ..

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Sir will open it as soon as its over ..

Ineresting.


Why has this thread been closed?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Condition : Need For Affordable Rugged Passenger Aircraft

AN-3

The present limitation in most of the small Airports in India that they have small rough Runways, These Runways are under 1000ms, To operate aircraft, The aircraft must have strong landing gears, It should have short takeoff and landing (STOL) capability, further these Aircraft must be less expensive and must have lesser operational and maintenance cost, Finding such aircraft are rare but few are there such as Antonov An-3, It is single-engine biplane aircraft designed and manufactured by the Antonov Design Bureau, Most important feature is it require just Take-off run 150 m, landing run 215 m , It has a pneumatic brake system (similar to those used on heavy road vehicles) to stop on short runways. It has Capacity of carrying 12 passengers at ranges of 550 km.

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Cessna 208 Caravan

The Cessna 208 Caravan is a single-engined turboprop, fixed-tricycle landing gear, short-haul regional airliner and utility aircraft that is built in the United States by Cessna. The airplane typically seats nine passengers with a single pilot, although with a FAR Part 23 waiver it can seat up to fourteen passengers. to 1,996 km, But its not known how much runway required to take off or land ..

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[Zebra]

Viking

Still Canada's most successful 19-seat commercial aircraft program with more than 800 aircraft built, the Twin Otter is popular for its rugged construction and useful STOL performance.

Perhaps the best testimony to the timelessness of the Twin Otter's design is the fact that it remains today the largest-selling 19-passenger commuter airplane in the world.

The de Havilland Twin Otter is a highly maneuverable, versatile aircraft which can be flown safely at various speeds from 80 to 160 knots. The Twin Otter is a high winged, un-pressurized, twin engine turbine powered aircraft ideally suited to operate in all conditions and climates.

Around the world in jungles, deserts, mountains, the Arctic, and anywhere where rugged reliability and short-take-off-and-landing are required you will find the hard working Twin Otter. Adding to that versatility the Twin Otter can be fitted with wheels, skis or floats.

STOL Takeoff and Landing Distance: 1200 ft (366m)

 

[Zebra]

We have to wait for these aircrafts........GA 18, GA10

Aircraft - Mahindra Aerospace

GippsAero GA18 Aircraft - A Rugged & Maintainable Aircraft

GippsAero GA10

 

[LETHALFORCE]

@Kunal
If a large international airline like air india is so poorly run how would these regional airlines fare?