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Intelligence Grid (NATGRID)-Super database soon: Big Brother will watch YOU

Every time you flash your credit card, pick up the phone, take a flight or access the Internet, somebody will be watching you.India is ramping up its intelligence infrastructure and networking databases in the public and private sectors.Once the National Intelligence Grid (NATGRID) is established by May 2011, it will provide security agencies real-time access into 21 categories of databases -- including bank account details, credit card transactions, driving licences as well as visa and immigration records.

This means that rather than writing to more than 50 entities -- government bodies such as the RBI and the Bureau of Immigration, and private firms like phone and airline companies -- all that a security agency has to do to get to know all about you is to feed your name into the system.

"Once you feed in a person's name, you'll get all the details about him, across all the databases," a government official said. Right from the colour of your car, outstanding traffic fines to be paid and the last time you paid by card for a late-night dinner with a friend.

"There really will not be any secrets from the State," a security official said. "It's the same in the United States."

The information grid will also have the ability to trawl through the consolidated database to sniff for suspicious trends and flag them for further investigations.
Intelligence officials insist they need this information to tackle the new sophisticated face of terrorism.

"Headley wouldn't have had a free run for three years if this kind of a system had been in place," an intelligence official said, referring to the Pakistanorigin David Coleman Headley who was arrested by US federal agents for conspiring to carry out terror attacks in India and Denmark.

"It would have raised a red flag, since he was travelling to Pakistan after every visit to India and wasn't converting enough foreign currency into Indian rupees though he was a businessman," the official said.

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Union Home Minister P.Chidambaram has inducted Raghu Menon, a security expert in the private sector, to set up the system. Menon joined this month as chief executive

Database to fight terrorism will keep eye on you- Hindustan Times

hindustan times SPECIAL - Super database soon: Big Brother will watch you
 
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Nice job home minister , it should be on the lines of NSA (national security agency) of US.
 

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Natgrid will have info on every Indian

India has decided to set up a NATGRID (National Intelligence Grid) to ensure better exchange of information between security agencies across the country.The lack of inter-state coordination and information-sharing between police officers, security experts point out, is one reason why terror-related investigations in India are often botched up.



They point out the case of a Pune blasts suspect who was picked up in Mangalore and then taken to Mumbai. The police in both states (Karnataka and Maharashtra ]) had no clue as to what the other was doing and did not share information with each other before the man was arrested.The Union home ministry realises that home-grown terrorism is the biggest threat the country confronts today. There have been instances where individuals have been picked up in one particular state and it has taken almost a month before the police force in that state has obtained information about the detainee from his home state, resulting in investigation delays.

NATGRID, which is proposed to be launched next May, will ensure that police officers feed information about individuals into a database. Officers from other states can log in and access this information.Police officers say they often encounter non-cooperation when they try to seek information from another state.NATGRID, incidentally, will compile information about every citizen in the country, not criminals alone.It will have information about the citizen's bank accounts, her/his fingerprints, property s/he owns etc.R Srikumar, a member of the Central Bureau of Investigation team that investigated the Rajiv Gandhi [ Images ] assassination, believes the more tools investigation agencies have, the better it is for them.

"There is an absolute need to share as much information with like-minded people," says Srikumar. "However, when it comes to dealing with terrorism, I would say it is enough to share information and gather the same with local police officers. We have to collect and prepare a database from the international community.""Terrorists come into the country from outside too," he added, "and we need to have a database on them. Hence, at the central level information needs to be collected internationally and the same needs to be fed (into NATGRID).Although NATGRID is a copy of the US model of compiling intelligence, Intelligence Bureau sources point out that NATGRID cannot substitute the existing process of accumulating intelligence.The intelligence agencies will still rely on manual intelligence and basic police interrogation, they say.
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Let's see how many of these bloody politicians first use it against truly corrupt colleagues and how many Suzanna Arundhati Roys are arrested, stripped of Indian passport and exiled first. Don't count your chicks before they hatch.
 

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NATGRID will be used by govt for keeing eye on opposition party rather than for its true purpose.even indira gandhi used IB and RAW against opposition during emergency.
 

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I know if I was a law abiding citizen in India I would definitely have a problem with NATGRID.
 

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As long as my Government is successful to keep ordinary civilians safe from any potential casualty to life from foreign threats or anti-national elements, I'm okay with NATGRID. This should have been done much ago but, its better late than never. Go Chidu Go!
 

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I know if I was a law abiding citizen in India I would definitely have a problem with NATGRID.
My thoughts exactly!

The potential of this being used in a negative way is dangerous and considering it doesn't take much to bribe officials here.
 

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NATGRID will be used by govt for keeing eye on opposition party rather than for its true purpose.even indira gandhi used IB and RAW against opposition during emergency.

Agreed. Congress is not exactly known for its democratic behaviour in India either. It is based on dynastic rule and a twisted sort of royal rule where laws are bent, opposition is threatened and people are fooled on a regular basis.
 

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A person with right contacts and a good amount of $$$ can get to know everything about another person.

This is India where corruption is present in every field.

Terrorists will as always get around it by using fake aliases and will only get revealed after they've blown themselves while the common citizen is spied upon.
 

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Sunday, Dec 22, 2013, 15:23 IST | Agency: PTI
NATGRID, the ambitious counter- terror mechanism envisaged post 26/11, has discretely begun churning out vital information for Indian security agencies

NATGRID, the ambitious counter- terror mechanism envisaged post 26/11, has discretely begun churning out vital information for Indian security agencies even as high-level security arrangements have been put in place to aggressively guard the system against any breach in its platform.

National Intelligence Grid (NATGRID) CEO Raghu Raman, who has been leading the creation of the ambitious department under the Union Home Ministry, said 21 data sources of various intelligence and enforcement agencies have been brought on board to put together a better picture of an incident which could be used not only to counter an impending threat but also trail suspects.

"In many ways it (NATGRID) has started.There are certain elements being helped out where it is required," Raman told PTI when asked if the grid has begun doing its job and dishing out logical clues to law enforcement agencies in the country.

The CEO, who was picked up for the creation of this ambitious project after his stint in the private sector Mahindra group, says NATGRID "has been delayed" in some senses "to make sure that the security protocols of the data sources it is using are very strong."

"The security (of NATGRID) has been kept at the highest level.As a matter of fact, I can technology-wise guarantee you that the way NATGRID will protect data will be far higher than the protection given to the data in its original location.

Security is definitely at a much higher grade than the original place where the data is," Raman said dismissing concerns over sanctity of the classified and personal user data it will access to discharge its task.

Raman clarified that the NATGRID is not using databases but 21 data sources.

"NATGRID is a tool in background.It is assisting agencies. It is only a pointer, like a compass.It is like Google. When you search for anything on Google it points you to go here and go there..likewise it (NATGRID) enables an officer to very quickly get a 360-degree view of a situation...," Raman explained.

"There will be elements of certain user agencies (in NATGRID) who have access to that data.Those user agencies, by virtue of their presence in NATGRID, will have the capability to source the information," he said.

NATGRID begins operations; high security protocols deployed - India - DNA
 

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Finally they have taken data from all the sources......:thumb:
21 Sources can be

1. Rail.
2. Airline
3. Banks
4. PAN/Tax
5. Voter card
6. DL
7. Vehicle registration.
8. Mobile phone data
9. Landline data
10.Police records.
11. Aadhar
12. Post office data.

Please add to the list, thanks in advance.
 

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I think that GOI should direct all hotels to register their guests online, with ID cards or passport scan on it, along with option of taking snaps at the reception. This way they will get more data. Already hotels have put in video cameras at reception and entrances.
 

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11 central agencies, which are:
Research and Analysis Wing, the Intelligence Bureau, Central Bureau of Investigation, Financial intelligence unit, Central Board of Direct Taxes, Directorate of Revenue Intelligence, Enforcement Directorate, Narcotics Control Bureau, Central Board of Excise and Customs and the Directorate General of Central Excise Intelligence
 

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