Narendra Modi - the people's politician

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  1. Deathstar

    Deathstar Regular Member

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    Manure is an excellent idea cz cow manure is quite expensive and now a days organic trend is growing
    Also export of unwanted cows can be done to countries like Bangladesh this would also solve the problem of illegal smuggling
    Cattle are one of the sources lf GHGs which lead to climate change , so controlling the cattle population is very much needed
    No need to get emotional with cow slaughter , our ancestors didnt worship cows cz they were gods but cows provided useful products to humans just like coconut trees hecne paid respects
    Banning milch cows is okay but slaughter of old cows should be allowed , maintaining cows is quite costly but its meat is cheap
     
  2. Aaj ka hero

    Aaj ka hero Regular Member

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    I can't even say anything about this.
    Man........ just because we have more power mean we have the authority to kill anybody.
    Cows can take care of themselves they were present here since the ages Without DOING things LIKE RAISING GREEN HOUSE OR DESTROYING MOTHER EARTH, the biggest monsters are us humans.
    Despite being A STUDENT OF Warfare I am opposed to killing of living being which did not do anything to us.
    YOUR points sirji are....... SORRY to say but too full of holes.
    And I am vegetarian by the way so no chicken and fish.
     
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  3. Vishwarupa

    Vishwarupa Senior Member Senior Member

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    What's happening? Is there any strategy behind this?
    Achievements of #56inch:
    1. No ban on Cow slaughter, atleast not nationwide(and in BJP ruled states not enforced)
    2. No Black money from Swiss Banks, I did not get my 15 lakhs in my account.
    3. No Uniform civil code
    4. No removal of article 370
    5. Temples still under the hold of Government
    6. No Ram temple, hindutva is only opportunistic agenda for BJP, Aruni Jaitleyy revealed in Wiki(CIA leaks don't remember) leaks
    7. Missionary activities increased manifold with BJP MLA, MP's themselves supporting missionary activities openly
    8. Rise of Jihadi activity, love Jihad
    9. Terror activities increased manifold by Pakistan
    10. No action on Roberto Vadra, Italian barmaid and her duffer son(In how many speeches Modi glorified their activities pun intended)
    11. Salman khana got away cheaply, Judiciary intervening in hindu festivals and Modi's silence in these regards, complete mockery of Judiciary.
    12 Forceful Exodus of hindus from Kairana, Dhulagarh, Azamgarh, Malda, Rani ganj, Asansol and Modi's complete silence on these issues.
    13. Modi told on record that Gaurakshaks are Gundas.
    14. Jai Shah scam, company got money worth thousands of crores overnight.
    15. No action on P Chidambaramm, Karthi Chidambarmm.
    16. No action on any minister caught in thousands of scam in UPA.
    17. All corrupt congress leaders joining BJP, no self respect whatsoever.
    18. 100% FDI is defence and most of the sectors, equals selling of country for good.
    19. No amendment of Biased marraige laws because of which lakhs of men are committing suicide.
    20. Proposed FRDI law to loot common citizens.
    21. Corruption in Bureacracy, Police, Judiciary, Politicians at an all time high.
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    22. Massive demographic changes in J and K due to rohingyas
    23. No sensus of illegal bangladeshis forget about removing them. By the way they also get Aadhar cards now.
    24. Humiliation of Kashmiri pandits by Supreme Court and Modi's complete silence in this regard.
    25. Started Shaadi Shagun for Muslim girls to get married.

    26. Mother Ganga is still horribly unclean, Modi asked votes from people of Varanasi on the promise that he will clean the river calling her his own mother, but his treatment of the river is lower even to what treatment a person would give to a beggar.

    26. No action on 2G accused

    27. FRDI bill(this is the biggest scam of all time) and not finding permanent solution NPAs because of current businessmen + babu+ bank chief+ rbi governor nexus.

    28. Letting Padmavati release but no solution on ram Jamnabhoomi or Kashmiri Hindus.

    29. Making temple lands available for miscallaneous businesses like schools, colleges, hospitals.

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    30. Open appeasing of Christians and muslims even after knowing they will never vote for you.

    31. Inability to pass one good law or make amendments to existing laws(this is what he is there for everything else is secondary)

    32. Inability to take on the Judiciary Mafia(Modis surrender when corrupt Judiciary struck down National Judicial Appointments Commission)

    33. Allowing 100% FDI in retail. Amazon, Walmart etc capture the market. edit, now reduced to 25% in Feb 2019 to win elections.

    34. Utter disgrace and stupidity of Modi to say he wants Muslims with quran in one hand and computer in the other. We all know what happens after this.

    35. Salaman Kan got bail in black buck case.

    36. Complete incompetence and lack of will in handling the Asifa issue, resulting exodus of hindus from the Jammu village.

    37. Rs 1 lakh to Muslim candidates preparing for UPSC

    38. Declaring Unilateral Ceasefire biggest blunder.

    39. Making SC/ST act stricter so that general category can be made to suffer even more. This draconian law needs to go but Modi makes it even more draconian
    Details here:
    http://pib.nic.in/newsite/PrintRelease.aspx?relid=181758

    40. Not waging war with Pakistan even after returning Abhinandan Pakistan carried out countless ceasefire violations killing Jawans, women, small babies, children. Even during tensions carrying on with election rallies.

    41. Starting Samjhauta express 14 days after Pulwama attack. No shame whatsoever.

    42. No decision to save hindu temples from Government control after anti-hindu judgement of the Supreme Kotha.
    While nothing in similar fashion is done for any Chruch or Mosque.
    https://www.mynation.com/…/pakistan-tries-to-hack-bjp-websi…

    43. Introducing more and more reservations making General category people to flee the country.

    44. Modi said minorities made to live in fear
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...end-this-pm-to-party/articleshow/69500818.cms

    45. Government to offer scholarship to 5crore Madrassa students
    Why hindu students have done some crime that they cannot get any scholarship. So now SC/ST/OBC have reservations and madrassa Students get scholarship. Should Upper Caste hindus just flea India ?
    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...hips-in-5-years-govt/articleshow/69748292.cms

    46. Mob of 300 attacked a hindu temple but modi could not do anything instead he is saying that minorities live in fear. There is no mention of this in any of his speeches.
    https://satyavijayi.com/hindu-templ...ob-of-over-300-amid-chants-of-allah-hu-akbar/

    47. Modi government wants more muslims in IAS, IPS hence it is going to increase funding for their coaching
    https://theprint.in/india/modi-govt...-raises-budget-for-free-upsc-coaching/259153/

    48. Modi government said it had independent foreign policy and nobody could dictate its relation with other countries. Unfortunately this was proved wrong raising strong questions even about its sovereignty because this decision shows clearly that India does obey stronger countries
    https://www.rt.com/business/460160-india-oil-imports-iran/
     
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  4. Deathstar

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    Disappointed with Modi government , Hindus are doomed anyways
     
  5. Vijyes

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    Evidence?
    Evidence?
    Modi only said lynching not acceptable for any reason. Where is calling of gundas?
    This confirms that you just intend yo spread fake news. Jai shah was a trader. When did he get money of thousands of crores? He actually suffered a net loss.
    How many rohingya came to J&K? How is there a demographics change?
    Lot is these illegals are hindu Bangladeshi. Moreover, NRC is a form of census itself.
    This means informed marriage which is good to control birth rate.
     
  6. vampyrbladez

    vampyrbladez Senior Member Senior Member

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    Then presenting the alternate reality :

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    Thank God for this :

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  7. prasadr14

    prasadr14 PrasadReddy Senior Member

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    Last few days I have lost a lot of respect for Modi.

    He is eager to speak when attacks happen against muslims but is silent on temples being desecrated and destroyed.

    Not just that but he seems a lot more arrogant, basically bullying his MP's and MLA's not to even speak freely. What an absolute disgrace and nonsense.

    May be the victory has gone to his head but he needs to change fast. This is India, just like Mamta has lost momentum, BJP can loose momentum too & very very quickly.

    Nothing wrong in wanting to win Vishwas of muslims,
    BUT
    it can't come on the alter of Hindu dead bodies.

    I will still support him but if things stay the same for next 2 years, in 2024 I will be working to defeat BJP.
    Would rather have Congress who are openly anti-Hindu, that way we won't feel BETRAYED like how we are feeling now!!

    This guy speaks against lynchings of Muslims in parliament but keeps mouth Shut when Hindus and temples are at receiving end.
    Speak for all or speak for none.
    If these silly debates happen in parliament, let other MP's who have more balls than you to address it and show the opposition the mirror.

    yesterday Delhi police arrested the person arranging Hanuman Chalisa.
    Left an extreme bad taste in mouth & the betrayal was heart wrenching.
    Got me thinking, what is the difference between Mamta and Modi at this point?
     
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    prasadr14 PrasadReddy Senior Member

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    What's worse is these type of idiotic posts.
    When you mix fiction with facts especially in a forum like this where people are highly educated and can fact check easy, you lose traction.

    Be a genuine critique.
    Stop posting idiotic posts picked from useless WhatsApp groups.

    This is coming from a guy who is absolutely pissed off with Modi.
    Base your posts on facts, that will lead to people taking you and your posts seriously.

    You post is a disgrace....and these are the kind of idiotic rants that have helped Modi immensely.
     
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  9. Willy3

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    Modi ji will realize how futile this 'savka viswass' is by 2022 UP election....
     
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  10. Indrajit

    Indrajit Regular Member

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    That’s not the correct way to look at it. Muslim vote for the BJP will never be a reality, it wasn’t for Vajpayee, it won’t be for Modi. However neutralising some of the bad press that will always come helps keep the overall direction of the government on track instead of having it focused on one topic alone and sucking out both the oxygen and the spotlight from important accomplishments.
     
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    while some points can be attributed fiction, some are absolutely spot on. I wonder if hindus are doomed demographically so much that, even hardcore rightwing party which is power, are crawling on their stomach to appease muslims - to keep their votebank in future?

    Why subsidize and specially make entry of muslims in ias and ips via madrassas? thats the most stupid idea, even congress in 10 yrs did not think of implementing. So we want shariat to be slowly be legitimized - if not through constitution - but via subtle policy implementation? Daily so many temple desecration, mob immobilization, rapes news are coming as if on a cue these incidents are being triggered? yet i see no alarm - forget alarm no action in controlling agencies fueling these incidents?
     
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  12. vampyrbladez

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    Is there a concerted attempt to sow doubts against PM Modi among his most loyal base?

    A new theory in town. That PM Modi has suddenly decided to go ‘secular.’

    ABHISHEK BANERJEE
    JULY 22, 2019

    By now, everyone of us who is out there on social media is aware of this strange new phenomenon. The toughest, most loyal BJP supporters are suddenly reeling as if struck by a Category 5 Hurricane. The feel good atmosphere of May 23 has all but evaporated and a sense of gloom and doom prevails among the online support base of PM Modi.

    A new theory in town. That PM Modi has suddenly decided to go ‘secular.’ Or in other words, he has embraced the pseudo-secular trappings and hypocrisies of the old Indian political establishment.

    I have to take this theory head on. Not necessarily to oppose. But because I want to discuss.

    First of all, is there merit in the claim that the BJP has not done enough to break down the pseudo-secular old establishment? Absolutely there is. For example:

    Why can’t we bring in a law to build a Ram Temple at Ayodhya? The courts began looking at the Ayodhya dispute since 1855-56! After what is possibly the longest legal case in history, it appears that the Supreme Court has thrown up its hands and asked for mediation! At least now it is time for the Govt to address the matter directly and build the Ram Temple, honoring the will of the people.

    Why do we even have a ministry for minorities? Isn’t that where all the recent discontent about “minority scholarships” began? As Rahul Roushan wrote in an OpIndia article, why not just go for “deminoritization” and shut down this ministry? For those who care, the “Ministry of Minorities” isn’t even a time honored tradition. It was dreamed up by the UPA specifically as a vehicle for appeasement and vote bank politics. Why not abolish it?

    Now that said, I have to ask if there is genuine cause for the sudden surge of negativity that has come to dominate social media in the last few months. Did something change suddenly? And more importantly, are there elements who are now actively playing on this negativity, trying to actually break Modi’s strongest support base by playing up half truths?

    Let us start with the matter of minority scholarships. It’s the spot where this theory of ‘minority appeaser BJP’ originated and the anger has been simmering since. In a pronouncement that I suppose nobody on social media has forgotten, Minority Affairs Minister Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi declared that minorities would receive “5 crore scholarships” over 5 years of Modi 2.0.

    That sounds like a big number, which made the outrage take off. Social media was flooded with all sorts of numbers. But was it really? I mean, the BJP government claims to have 22 crore beneficiaries in its first term. Since minorities make up more than 20% of the population, one can confidently claim that at least 4.4 crore minority beneficiaries in Modi’s first term. From 4.4 crore to 5 crore does not seem like that much.

    What about scholarships specifically? Here is the expenditure by year:

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    Post matric Scholarship expenditure
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    Pre matric scholarship expenditure
    As you can see from the data, there has been hardly any increase in either number or total amount spent on minority scholarships. The number of scholarships appears to have gone down significantly in fact compared to the last year of UPA and the first year of Modi’s term (during which smaller expenditures like these would mostly have been carried forward on auto pilot from previous government). And never forget that budget staying “constant” is really a cut in terms of inflation.

    But people argue that the numbers are beside the point because it is a question of principle. And I agree. But then it must also be acknowledged that there has been no sudden change in BJP policy which would warrant the sudden outrage.

    But what I really wonder is whether other players are trying to capitalize on the bout of outrage and trying to sow fear and dissension in BJP’s core base.

    News articles appeared with headlines like “80% of government scholarships go to Muslims.” They appeared to draw from the Government’s National Scholarship Portal. As it happened, it seems the graphic on that portal did not include data for SC/ST scholarships, the vast majority of which go to Hindus. This is the kind of routine communication gap between govt agencies that any citizen would be familiar with. But the articles and the headlines started an outpouring on social media that raged for weeks.

    Eventually, there was the moment of truth when the Budget arrived. Not surprisingly, the Budget for both Pre-Matric and Post-Matric scholarships for minorities was actually *cut*. Which means the budgets were basically cut by 3-4% when you consider inflation.

    Mysteriously however, headlines appeared after the budget focusing on the fact that the budget for subsidized coaching for minority candidates had been increased. By how much? It used to be Rs 8 crore. It’s now Rs 20 crore. I don’t know how much can get done in India of 2019 with an extra Rs 12 crores. But it seemed like the headlines wanted to tell a story.

    Only today, a prominent news anchor shared on Twitter a video of a top BJP minister making an Islamic affirmation, without really mentioning that it is from Jan 2016. You can see the date in the video if you look carefully, but we know how social media works. Most people wont see the date.

    Naturally, this video was promptly incorporated into the confirmation bias and seen as further evidence of a new minority appeasing face of Modi 2.0.

    Yes, you can ask why the date matters so much. Because nobody really cares what one individual BJP minister does at home during his puja. People want to know what the top BJP leadership thinks. If they knew this video was from 2016, they would treat it as a random fact about one politician. If people think it’s recent, they will lump it together with other misinformation and fall for a narrative. No surprise that I saw recently a photo of PM Modi holding a chaddar to be sent as a gift at a certain famous dargah. The caption did not mention that the photo was from 2015. In any case, lots of Hindus offer chaddars at that famous dargah.

    The dates matter. That’s precisely why some people appear to be leaving the dates out. Because if people think that all these things happened in the last couple of weeks, it will look like a coordinated PR campaign by BJP for appeasement of minorities.

    Now who would want that? And are Hindu right wingers walking into a trap?

    I will finish with a request to Hindu right wing online. It is absolutely right to accuse the BJP of not doing enough to roll back decades of minority appeasement. But do you think that Modi 2.0 would deliberately opt for minority appeasement? Can you think of any possible motive for this? Do you think that anybody, that too a politician, would do something without a motive? What gain do you think the BJP would hope to make from minority appeasement?

    You and I know that BJP will not gain a single vote from minority appeasement. So please. Please don’t tell me that the two sharpest political minds in India cannot see that much.

    Meanwhile, I would suggest looking around and seeing how much the dominant narrative has changed in the last five years. Remember that many of us took to social media precisely because we thought the English language media was not listening to us. How does that look now?

    I don’t know how many remember the Vajpayee government passing the POTA Act. The opposition was so resolute in blocking it that a joint session of parliament had to be called to pass the bill. There were MPs on both sides who came from their hospital beds to shore up the numbers for their side.

    Last week, the NIA Amendment Bill passed the Lok Sabha with 278 voting in favor and just 6 against. Surely, something has changed.

    We’ll get there, eventually. By the way did you know what is happening in states?

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    Gujarat government does not allocate budget for minorities
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    Yogi Adityanath government slashes minority welfare department outlay in UP
    We Hindus have been treated so badly in history that we have a hard time keeping the faith. This time will be different. Let’s not be misled so easily.

    https://www.opindia.com/2019/07/is-...ts-against-pm-modi-among-his-most-loyal-base/
     
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    Netanyahu election ads: Putin, Trump & Modi
     
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    Apna launda chaa gaya! :cool1:

    Modiji great!
     
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    Easy to say and when u look at it without context, unexceptionable. However, who’s going to look after the million and millions of unproductive cows? Already, in many states the unwanted cows are causing plenty of hardship to farmers and others that even the BJP leaning psephologist Dr.Pravin Patil warned that if nothing is done on this, the backlash will be substantial.

    However much your feelings on this may be strong, one has to look at it practically. We simply cannot sustain this burden which is why most cow protection laws of the states have an age limit on the prevention of slaughter.
     
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    Indx TechStyle War Mongerer Veteran Member Senior Member

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    I got no problem with banning animal slaughter. But please do some inhabitation arrangement or transfer them in jungle.

    Lot of stray cows are creating problem here in cities as well now.
     
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    Modi to feature in Man vs wild

     
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    VIP Ultra Nationalist Senior Member

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    Frankly, that's deliberately created problem here atleast in Gujarat, almost all stray cows are owned by some person who doesn't want to feed from his pocket, they just loose their cattles and then these cows roam free, eat crap and shit everywhere making the place dirty. And when sun goes down, these cattles gather around and return to their home where owner milk them and in the morning they release them again. When authority capture these stray cows, their owners mysteriously appear and take them at home and again the circle continues. The life of such cows decrease significantly and milk productivity also decreases significantly. When they are no use of their owners, owners just abandoned these cows.
     
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    angeldude13 Lestat De Lioncourt Senior Member

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    I visited my village last weekend and the cows were everywhere. They are stray cows that no one wants as their milk is very cheap and a dairy guy would not buy it because of the low fat content so people are just abandoning desi cows. You could see them grazing on a standing crop. My cousin told me they are destroying up to an acre of land of yield.
    Interesting thing is almost all the villagers use barbed wire to keep the animals out but cows are smart animal and they have somehow find a way to get inside the fenced area.
     
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    Reading this reminded me of a specific episode of satyamev jayate where a gentleman from Tamil Nadu had brilliant idea to solve this problem without causing any harm to anyone.
     

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