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BC!............Now pakistanis will take the credit of our increasing forex reserves.
Not a big deal for them.

They were crying few days back for not taking credit of OBL hunt. This time they are trying to take it heads on.

Now it would be interesting to see congis and left going crazy here.
 

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The saga of Shahpurkandi Dam


HEM CHANDER JERATH
As per Indus Water Treaty – 1960 signed between two nations, the India can solely utilize all water flowing in the eastern rivers like Ravi, Satluj and Beas presently flowing from India to Pakistan.
A deadlock regarding the construction of Shahpurkandi Dam between the States of J&K and Punjab was broken when the Ministers of the both the States exchanged, approved MoU by the State Cabinet in the first week of September 2017:clap2: at Srinagar so as to enable both the states to utilize every drop of water of Ravi River rather than allowing to flow directly into Pakistan.:clap2:

In the interstate conference held at New Delhi on 29.01.1955, the state of Jammu & Kashmir was allocated 0.65 MAF water from Ravi River in addition to the pre-partition utilization of 0.04MAF from river Ravi. Accordingly, a DPR was prepared by Punjab for a multipurpose scheme called Thein Dam project for utilization of Ravi Waters and in October 1977 it was decided to take up the construction work on the project.

A bilateral agreement was signed between Punjab and J&K on 20.01.1979 in which it was agreed that J&K Govt shall take off Ravi Canal from Shahpurkandi Barrage and draw its share of water (1150 Cusecs). The Shahpurkandi Barrage shall be started at the First Technically Feasible opportunity. The J&K state shall get 20% of total power generated from Thein Dam and Shahpurkandi Dam at bus bar rate as its share of power. 15% personnel shall be taken from J&K for the project. The persons affected shall also be rehabilitated.

The Punjab Government delayed in construction of Shahpurkandi Dam and finally enacted ” Punjab Termination of Agreements Act 2004″ whereby it unilaterally terminated all Agreement signed by it relating of waters of Ravi- Beas . Due to which the J&K could not draw its allocated share of water and power leading to huge losses to the State.'

As per the agreement of 1979 the J&K State’s agreed share = 0.69 MAF (incl. 0.04MAF pre-partition share)
The quantity of water being utilised by the State at present = 0.215 MAF(Kathua Canal = 400 Cusecs, Kerian Gandial = 45 Cusecs, Old Basantpur Canal = 25 Cusecs i.e 470 cusecs)
Balance quantity of water as per the agreed share from Shahpurkandi Dam =0.475 MAF (i.e 1150 Cusecs).

Number of meetings were held between Chief Secretaries of both the states and number of times matter was deliberated under the chairmanship of secretary Ministry of Water Resources, Government of India. The ice was finally broken after a lapse of more than three decades when the Secretaries of the both the states resumed talks on the issue and MOU was signed on 3rd of March 2017 in presence of the Union Secretary MOWR, GOI. with the following clauses :-
The crest levels of both the Head regulators shall be fixed at 398.40 m as agreed.
The Central Water and Power Research Station (CWPRS) Pune will carry out Model study to assess the crest levels of head regulators so as to ensure that the mandated share of 1150 cusecs of water is available to the State of J&K, which will be binding on both the States.
The project will continue to be implemented by the Government of Punjab.
The balance costs on account of compensation for land acquisition in respect of Thein Dam, as per the agreement would be paid for by the Government of Punjab promptly
The Government of Punjab would be making available to the Govt. of J&K 20% share in the total power generated at the Thein Dam at the mutually agreed rate of Rs. 3.50 per unit immediately, subject to the confirmation of the rates by the CERC.
After detailed discussions it was decided that the issues of claims and counter claims would be referred for arbitration in accordance with Clause 16 of the Agreement of 1979.
The two State Governments will work on a draft agreement in this regard.
Punjab Government reiterated its commitment to construct the balance 2.3 km Ravi Canal/ and syphon for the Kashmir Canal/ co-terminous with the construction of the Shahpur Kandi Dam.
It was unanimously agreed that the work on the Shahpur Kandi Dam Project would resume as soon both the State Governments formally approve the agreed decisions.
The State of Punjab ratified the MoU in the month of May 2017. Since the earlier agreement of 1979, lot of water has been passed through the Ravi River for the period more than three decades, the present government was highly serious to alienate the sufferings of the poor farmers of Samba and Kathua Districts.
The MoU was placed before the State Cabinet which vide Decision dated 09.08.2017 took note of the MoU signed by Secretaries of both the States on 03.03.2017 and while conveying its approval, the Cabinet has desired that the Agreement of 1979, in so far as it relates to the State of Jammu and Kashmir should remain intact and further steps for implementation of the project shall rest as per the said MoU.
1. Benefits after construction of ShahpurKandi Dam:
i) The Punjab shall immediately release the balance cost of land compensation and other allied items as per present rates. Apart from this affected persons shall be provided employment in the construction of Dam.
ii) Over one lac acres of kandi area of Districts of Samba & Kathua falling in the command of Ravi Canal shall get irrigation facility on implementation of water sharing Agreement with Punjab. The benefit on account of agriculture production shall be approx. 250 crore per year after release of agreed share of water i.e. 1150 cusecs.
iii) Now Punjab has agreed to supply the power @ Rs. 3.50 per unit subject to the approval by CERC as soon as the work is resumed. After resumption of the work of Shahpur Kandi Dam the J&K state shall start getting 20 % of power i.e. approx. 300 MU annually from Ranjit Sagar Dam and another 20% from the Shahpur kandi project after its completion/Commissioning. At present there will be benefit of about Rs. 165.00 crore per year to the J&K state on account of power from RSD.
iv) The state of J&K shall save Rs. 14.00 crore annually on account of power and operational charges being paid for lift stations at Basantpur and Lakhanpur.
v) The state of Punjab has agreed to construct the balance portion of Ravi Canal for a length of 2.3 Km and canal syphon for carrying water for Kashmir Canal out of their own resources (out of cost of National Project funded by Govt. of India) for which the state of J&K has not to make any investment in this regard.

Decks having been cleared for the project Shahpur Kandi Dam and it will be game changer for the entire region of Kathua and Samba district thus bringing revolutionary transformation not only in agriculture and irrigation sector but also in power sector. After completion of the Shahpurkandi Dam the economic conditions of the poor farmers both the districts Samba & Kathua shall be improved and there will be green revolution in the area which will result in making the J&K State self sufficient as far as food is concerned . Apart from the above benefits there will be lot of indirect benefits to the farmers living adjoining to the canal network.
After the ratification of MOU by the Punjab and J&K state Cabinet , the Punjab government has conducted the complete survey of the area and fixed the alignment of the purposed canal syphon.The detailed revised cost has been worked out by the irrigation department of Punjab and submitted to the government for its approval so that the construction of Shahpur Kandi Dam is resumed as early as possible without wasting any further time.

The most feasible and economical alignment of the canal from head regulator on J&K side to Basantpur lift station is being fixed with a view that maximum state land is acquired. The acquisition of land needs to be taken up on fast track and resources for rehabilitation should be explored and arranged. A separate collector land acquisition should be posted to expedite the acquisition process as the post stands abolished by the Govt. since two year.

To ensure agreed share of water for J&K statemathematical study of the proposed Dam and Head Regulators stands completed by CWPRS Pune.The physical model study is yet to be done by CWPRS Pune.
Since the main canal and its network inciuding structures have been completed about three decades back, for carrying agreed share of water, the remodelling of main canal ,distribution network and structures needs to be done for which DPR is to be prepared as per CWC guidelines and resources are to arranged either from GOI or through statesector.
At this stage other components of the agreement be implemented without wasting any further time such as employment ol balance Dam oustees ,maintaining 15% cadre strength at Shah Pur kandi Dam and evacuation of 20% of power being generated at Ranjit Sagar Dam at present. Due to this delay J&K state is suffering losses continuously.
The complete project shall likely to be completed within a span of two years. The benefits on account of power shall start paying dividends immediately after the state of J&K constructs the balance infrastructure for evacuating power from Ranjit Sagar Dam and the irrigation benefits shall be possible only after the completion of the Project.

Had the execution of the Project started in beginning of the century there would have been Green Revolution in both the states there by contributing for the overall development of the nation.
It is well said that ” It is never to late.”

(Author is Retd. Chief Engineer from J&K State & former chairman of Institution of Engineers, Local Centre Jammu)

http://news.statetimes.in/the-saga-of-shahpurkandi-dam/



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The saga of Shahpurkandi Dam


HEM CHANDER JERATH
As per Indus Water Treaty – 1960 signed between two nations, the India can solely utilize all water flowing in the eastern rivers like Ravi, Satluj and Beas presently flowing from India to Pakistan.
A deadlock regarding the construction of Shahpurkandi Dam between the States of J&K and Punjab was broken when the Ministers of the both the States exchanged, approved MoU by the State Cabinet in the first week of September 2017:clap2: at Srinagar so as to enable both the states to utilize every drop of water of Ravi River rather than allowing to flow directly into Pakistan.:clap2:

In the interstate conference held at New Delhi on 29.01.1955, the state of Jammu & Kashmir was allocated 0.65 MAF water from Ravi River in addition to the pre-partition utilization of 0.04MAF from river Ravi. Accordingly, a DPR was prepared by Punjab for a multipurpose scheme called Thein Dam project for utilization of Ravi Waters and in October 1977 it was decided to take up the construction work on the project.

A bilateral agreement was signed between Punjab and J&K on 20.01.1979 in which it was agreed that J&K Govt shall take off Ravi Canal from Shahpurkandi Barrage and draw its share of water (1150 Cusecs). The Shahpurkandi Barrage shall be started at the First Technically Feasible opportunity. The J&K state shall get 20% of total power generated from Thein Dam and Shahpurkandi Dam at bus bar rate as its share of power. 15% personnel shall be taken from J&K for the project. The persons affected shall also be rehabilitated.

The Punjab Government delayed in construction of Shahpurkandi Dam and finally enacted ” Punjab Termination of Agreements Act 2004″ whereby it unilaterally terminated all Agreement signed by it relating of waters of Ravi- Beas . Due to which the J&K could not draw its allocated share of water and power leading to huge losses to the State.'

As per the agreement of 1979 the J&K State’s agreed share = 0.69 MAF (incl. 0.04MAF pre-partition share)
The quantity of water being utilised by the State at present = 0.215 MAF(Kathua Canal = 400 Cusecs, Kerian Gandial = 45 Cusecs, Old Basantpur Canal = 25 Cusecs i.e 470 cusecs)
Balance quantity of water as per the agreed share from Shahpurkandi Dam =0.475 MAF (i.e 1150 Cusecs).

Number of meetings were held between Chief Secretaries of both the states and number of times matter was deliberated under the chairmanship of secretary Ministry of Water Resources, Government of India. The ice was finally broken after a lapse of more than three decades when the Secretaries of the both the states resumed talks on the issue and MOU was signed on 3rd of March 2017 in presence of the Union Secretary MOWR, GOI. with the following clauses :-
The crest levels of both the Head regulators shall be fixed at 398.40 m as agreed.
The Central Water and Power Research Station (CWPRS) Pune will carry out Model study to assess the crest levels of head regulators so as to ensure that the mandated share of 1150 cusecs of water is available to the State of J&K, which will be binding on both the States.
The project will continue to be implemented by the Government of Punjab.
The balance costs on account of compensation for land acquisition in respect of Thein Dam, as per the agreement would be paid for by the Government of Punjab promptly
The Government of Punjab would be making available to the Govt. of J&K 20% share in the total power generated at the Thein Dam at the mutually agreed rate of Rs. 3.50 per unit immediately, subject to the confirmation of the rates by the CERC.
After detailed discussions it was decided that the issues of claims and counter claims would be referred for arbitration in accordance with Clause 16 of the Agreement of 1979.
The two State Governments will work on a draft agreement in this regard.
Punjab Government reiterated its commitment to construct the balance 2.3 km Ravi Canal/ and syphon for the Kashmir Canal/ co-terminous with the construction of the Shahpur Kandi Dam.
It was unanimously agreed that the work on the Shahpur Kandi Dam Project would resume as soon both the State Governments formally approve the agreed decisions.
The State of Punjab ratified the MoU in the month of May 2017. Since the earlier agreement of 1979, lot of water has been passed through the Ravi River for the period more than three decades, the present government was highly serious to alienate the sufferings of the poor farmers of Samba and Kathua Districts.
The MoU was placed before the State Cabinet which vide Decision dated 09.08.2017 took note of the MoU signed by Secretaries of both the States on 03.03.2017 and while conveying its approval, the Cabinet has desired that the Agreement of 1979, in so far as it relates to the State of Jammu and Kashmir should remain intact and further steps for implementation of the project shall rest as per the said MoU.
1. Benefits after construction of ShahpurKandi Dam:
i) The Punjab shall immediately release the balance cost of land compensation and other allied items as per present rates. Apart from this affected persons shall be provided employment in the construction of Dam.
ii) Over one lac acres of kandi area of Districts of Samba & Kathua falling in the command of Ravi Canal shall get irrigation facility on implementation of water sharing Agreement with Punjab. The benefit on account of agriculture production shall be approx. 250 crore per year after release of agreed share of water i.e. 1150 cusecs.
iii) Now Punjab has agreed to supply the power @ Rs. 3.50 per unit subject to the approval by CERC as soon as the work is resumed. After resumption of the work of Shahpur Kandi Dam the J&K state shall start getting 20 % of power i.e. approx. 300 MU annually from Ranjit Sagar Dam and another 20% from the Shahpur kandi project after its completion/Commissioning. At present there will be benefit of about Rs. 165.00 crore per year to the J&K state on account of power from RSD.
iv) The state of J&K shall save Rs. 14.00 crore annually on account of power and operational charges being paid for lift stations at Basantpur and Lakhanpur.
v) The state of Punjab has agreed to construct the balance portion of Ravi Canal for a length of 2.3 Km and canal syphon for carrying water for Kashmir Canal out of their own resources (out of cost of National Project funded by Govt. of India) for which the state of J&K has not to make any investment in this regard.

Decks having been cleared for the project Shahpur Kandi Dam and it will be game changer for the entire region of Kathua and Samba district thus bringing revolutionary transformation not only in agriculture and irrigation sector but also in power sector. After completion of the Shahpurkandi Dam the economic conditions of the poor farmers both the districts Samba & Kathua shall be improved and there will be green revolution in the area which will result in making the J&K State self sufficient as far as food is concerned . Apart from the above benefits there will be lot of indirect benefits to the farmers living adjoining to the canal network.
After the ratification of MOU by the Punjab and J&K state Cabinet , the Punjab government has conducted the complete survey of the area and fixed the alignment of the purposed canal syphon.The detailed revised cost has been worked out by the irrigation department of Punjab and submitted to the government for its approval so that the construction of Shahpur Kandi Dam is resumed as early as possible without wasting any further time.

The most feasible and economical alignment of the canal from head regulator on J&K side to Basantpur lift station is being fixed with a view that maximum state land is acquired. The acquisition of land needs to be taken up on fast track and resources for rehabilitation should be explored and arranged. A separate collector land acquisition should be posted to expedite the acquisition process as the post stands abolished by the Govt. since two year.

To ensure agreed share of water for J&K statemathematical study of the proposed Dam and Head Regulators stands completed by CWPRS Pune.The physical model study is yet to be done by CWPRS Pune.
Since the main canal and its network inciuding structures have been completed about three decades back, for carrying agreed share of water, the remodelling of main canal ,distribution network and structures needs to be done for which DPR is to be prepared as per CWC guidelines and resources are to arranged either from GOI or through statesector.
At this stage other components of the agreement be implemented without wasting any further time such as employment ol balance Dam oustees ,maintaining 15% cadre strength at Shah Pur kandi Dam and evacuation of 20% of power being generated at Ranjit Sagar Dam at present. Due to this delay J&K state is suffering losses continuously.
The complete project shall likely to be completed within a span of two years. The benefits on account of power shall start paying dividends immediately after the state of J&K constructs the balance infrastructure for evacuating power from Ranjit Sagar Dam and the irrigation benefits shall be possible only after the completion of the Project.

Had the execution of the Project started in beginning of the century there would have been Green Revolution in both the states there by contributing for the overall development of the nation.
It is well said that ” It is never to late.”

(Author is Retd. Chief Engineer from J&K State & former chairman of Institution of Engineers, Local Centre Jammu)

http://news.statetimes.in/the-saga-of-shahpurkandi-dam/



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I had heard somewhere the UPA put the Shahpurkandi project into cold storage as a confidence building measure (cbm) with Pak. Is it true.????
 

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We're just getting started bitches! Pakistan announced it has a new water policy. We must now adopt a no water policy for pakistan. But really, its so sad that we let such a strategic and important decision hanging just because of a prior disagreement between two states within our own country. We need a new mechanism to quickly settle disputes between states. Any additional projects coming up? How much more water can we keep without letting it flow into pakiland?
 
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CIA concerned about potential contacts between extremists and Pakistani nuclear scientists

WASHINGTON: The CIA continues to be very concerned about the potential connection between extremist groups and Pakistani nuclear scientists and is very closely monitoring this, a top official from the spy agency has told lawmakers.

"There was very deep concern about potential contacts, and we continue to monitor this very closely, between extremists and Pakistani nuclear scientists," Gina Haspel, US President Donald Trump's nominee for CIA director told the members of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee during her confirmation hearing on Wednesday.

Haspel, if confirmed by the Senate, would be the first female head of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). She was responding to a question from Senator John Cornyn.

"(Recently reading through a book) I was reminded that post-9/11, President Bush was concerned about reports he had received that Osama bin Laden and al Qaida were meeting with the Pakistani officials connected with their nuclear programme to gain access to a nuclear device that they might then use for a follow-on attack against the cities like Washington DC," Cornyn said.

"Without divulging classified information, can you confirm that there were concerns about follow-on attacks using nuclear devices, biological weapons, other weapons of mass destruction that might have killed more innocent Americans as happened on 9/11? Was that the environment in which you and the country were operating in at the time?"Cornyn asked.

There were very grave concerns on that front, Haspel answered.

"And indeed, al-Qaida had those kinds of programmes, efforts to acquire crude, dirty bombs, efforts to develop -- they had a programme -- a biological weapons programme. I remember the operative who was in charge of that," Haspel said.
 

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I had heard somewhere the UPA put the Shahpurkandi project into cold storage as a confidence building measure (cbm) with Pak. Is it true.????
Absolutely.. Such shit did happen
 

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LeT militant asks Terrorists to shun violence; says Pakistan is misleading youth in viral video

An LeT militant, who was arrested along with others for their alleged involvement in the Baramulla terror attack, has urged the ultras to “shun the path of violence” in a video that has gone viral. “My name is Aijaz Ahmad Gojri. I request my other friends–Suhaib Akhoon, Mohsin Mushtaq Bhat and Nasir Amin Drazi–who are on the wrong path and have left their families, their good life and living in forests, to return home. I request Nasir to come back as his mother is very ill,” the militant said in the 2-minute video, which was shot while he was in Army custody. “Pakistan is misleading the youth,” he said.

A Lashker-e-Taiba terror module was busted in north Kashmir yesterday with the arrest of 10 people, including four militants who were allegedly responsible for gunning down three boys at Baramulla on April 30. “We have ample evidence to suggest the hand of outlawed Lasher-e-Taiba group in instigating violence and killing innocent people in north Kashmir,” Inspector General of Police (Kashmir range) Swayam Prakash Pani told reporters yesterday.

A police spokesman said two of the four militants held were involved in the killing of Haseeb Nabi Khan, Irfan Ahmad Sheikh and Mohammad Asgar Sheikh – all residents of Baramulla, on April 30. The police said multiple parties of police, Army and the Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) were tasked to track the culprits.

In the video, Gojri can be heard saying that the Army gave him a “new life” by arresting him rather than killing him. “We fired at Army personnel, but they did not fire on us. I ran from the spot and hid in the forest, but the Army found me and instead of killing me – they arrested me and gave me a new life,” he said.

The militant also blamed the neighbouring nation for misleading the youths of Kashmir. “We were mislead by our leaders in Pakistan about the Indian Army, which is not true. You should come and meet the Army officers. This is a conspiracy wherein they (Pakistanis) are playing with our lives,” he said.


https://www.financialexpress.com/de...n-is-misleading-youth-in-viral-video/1162417/


India is turning terrorists sent by pakistan to sent a message across loud and clear.

IN YOUR FACE PORKIS!!!
 

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Dubai airport refuses to refuel PIA planes due to non-payment

These Porks don't have money to even buy a few dollars worth of fuel for an aircraft, how the dickens are they going to buy the 8 subs costing Rs 60,000 crores PKR from China?
 

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These Porks don't have money to even buy a few dollars worth of fuel for an aircraft, how the dickens are they going to buy the 8 subs costing Rs 60,000 crores PKR from China?
Simple pura mulk kho china ke hawale kar dega aur kya....badle mein Army aur ISI ko bahut paise milenge. Baad me gaya awam...
 

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Nawaz Sharif Admits Pak Terrorists Carried Out 26/11 Mumbai Attacks

Ousted Pakistan Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif appeared to admit that Pakistani terrorists carried out the 2008 Mumbai attacks, known as 26/11, and suggest that such terror strikes could have been prevented. In an interview to the Dawn newspaper published on Saturday, Mr Sharif also lamented that Pakistan had isolated itself. He indicated that his country should look into why its narrative that it had been fighting terrorism had not been accepted by the international community "despite sacrifices".

India has long accused Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba of carrying out the attacks in Mumbai on 26 November, 2008, that left 166 people dead and many injured after 10 terrorists with backpacks, automatic weapons and grenades launched a three-day siege on India's financial capital targeting multiple locations.

Mr Sharif did not name Mumbai attack mastermind Hafiz Saeed and Maulana Masood Azhar's Jamaat-ud-Dawah and Jaish-e-Mohammad that operate in the country with impunity in the interview. Or the Lashkar-e-Taiba, which according to India, sailed into Mumbai from Karachi, to carry out the attacks in an operation that was coordinated by Pakistani intelligence agency, ISI.


"Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can't we complete the trial?" he said, according to the newspaper.

The Mumbai case is being tried in an anti-terrorism court since 2009 but the case isn't going anywhere. Indian officials say Pakistan did not keep its end of the bargain and sent the case to court without really investigating the conspiracy that led to the attacks.

Islamabad, on the other hand, has blamed setbacks during the trial on India, insisting that New Delhi had not given "solid evidence" against Hafiz Saeed and others. When Saeed was ordered to be released after 10 months of house arrest in November last, the Pakistan government had justified the move, saying the law was equal for all.

Mr Sharif, 68, was disqualified by the Supreme Court for not being "honest and righteous" as he failed to declare in 2013 a salary he got from the company of his son in the UAE. In February, the top court also disqualified him as the head of the ruling Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz.

Former PM Nawaz Sharif's apparently conciliatory remark on the state's role in terrorism, however, is unlikely to indicate a concrete shift in Islamabad's position. Just months before Hafiz Saeed was released from detention, Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi had launched a sharp attack on India, over what he had described as, "brutally suppressing" people in Jammu and Kashmir.

In March again, Pakistan had attempted to drag in the Kashmir issue at the United Nations again and was pummelled by New Delhi that underlined India was still waiting for "credible action" to bring all those involved in the 2008 Mumbai attacks to justice.


https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/naw...ists-carried-out-26-11-mumbai-attacks-1851224


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India should shift Pak from grey to black list: Defence Expert



Defence experts on Saturday called for sterner action against Pakistan after former prime minister Nawaz Sharif admitted the involvement of his country in the deadly 26/11 Mumbai terror attack, saying, “India should ensure Pakistan is shifted from grey list to black list.”


“Pakistan speaks in a language so that they can gain international sympathy. Take the case of former dictator Pervez Musharraf’s example, who instigated terrorism in Kashmir. Thereafter he admitted openly that it was Pakistan which started terrorism in Kashmir. He was trying to become a hero by acknowledging that. Nawaz is doing something similar,” Defence expert Anil Gupta told ANI after reports of Nawaz’s statement, wherein, he admitted that the terrorists sent by Pakistan were responsible for the deadly 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks.

“One must ask him (Nawaz) when he was the country’s prime minister for four years why did he keep refusing the evidence provided by India is not enough evidence. India showed dosseirs showing involvement of Pakistan but it denied. Now that he has admitted it, India should ensure Pakistan is shifted from grey list to black list,” he added.

Echoing similar sentiments another defence expert DS Dhillon underscored how Pakistan was constantly in the denial mode despite dossier submitted by India.

“Role of Pakistan was always very well established in the world media but his admission puts an official stamp on the role of Pakistan media and press and ISI attack in Mumbai 26/11,” Dhillon told ANI.


On Friday, Nawaz said that terrorists sent by Pakistan were responsible for the deadly 26/11 Mumbai terror attacks that claimed over 160 lives.

“Militant organisations are active. Call them non-state actors, should we allow them to cross the border and kill 150 people in Mumbai? Explain it to me. Why can’t we complete the trial?” Nawaz noted in an interview to Pakistan’s Dawn newspaper in a reference to the Mumbai attacks-related trials which have stalled in a Rawalpindi anti-terrorism court.

Pakistan has so far not completed trial in the 26/11 case.

On November 26, 2008, 10 Pakistan-based Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists had sailed into Mumbai from Karachi and carried out coordinated attacks in different parts of the city, killing about 166 people and injuring over 600 others.

The Jamaat-ud-Dawah (JuD) was believed to have plotted the 26/11 attacks. Its mastermind, Hafiz Saeed, has been roaming freely in Pakistan.

India has, time and again, protested against Islamabad for harbouring Saeed, who is wanted for allegedly plotting the 2008 attack.


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I had heard somewhere the UPA put the Shahpurkandi project into cold storage as a confidence building measure (cbm) with Pak. Is it true.????
Surprised? I ain't! The Cong can even sell their souls to Pak as a confidence building measure. Don't believe me? Ask Mani Shankar Aiyar.
 

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How Pakistan made a fool of India

The Preamble of the Indus Water Treaty says that the Governments of India and Pakistan have entered into the Treaty to attain satisfactory utilisation of the waters of the Indus system of rivers “in a spirit of goodwill and friendship…” India made a great sacrifice by giving 80 per cent of the water of our west-flowing rivers to Pakistan in order to secure this friendship. This friendship, however, has been shattered by the support given by Pakistan to cross-border terrorism. The Treaty provides that any modification will be done only by mutual agreement of India and Pakistan. However, since the very objective of the Treaty has not been achieved, India would be justified in either abrogating or otherwise modifying the terms of the Treaty unilaterally. It is a well-established principle that a law must be interpreted in the light of the Preamble. Let us say, one enters into an agreement with a taxi driver to carry oneself from Mumbai to Pune for Rs 2,500. That agreement falls if the taxi driver is not willing to take the passenger to Pune.


Similarly, India and Pakistan entered an agreement to secure goodwill and friendship. The Treaty falls if Pakistan works contrary to the principles of goodwill and friendship.
Article III of the Treaty provides that India may interfere with the flow of the rivers allotted to Pakistan for domestic use, non-consumptive use, and generation of hydro-electric power. The basic idea was that India should not withdraw water for these rivers for “consumptive” uses such as agriculture that would reduce the amount of waters that would flow to Pakistan. The generation of hydropower is non-consumptive. The amount of water coming from upstream is released downstream after generation of electricity. The amount of water flowing to Pakistan remains unchanged. Water is stored in the small reservoir behind the dam for a few hours and released for the generation of electricity when the demand for electricity is more. Therefore, there is no intra-seasonal storage as in projects like Bhakra and Tehri. The hydropower projects being made by India on the three rivers allotted to Pakistan are therefore within the four corners of the Treaty. India has built the Kishanganga and Ralte hydropower projects on the Neelum and Ravi rivers under this provision of the treaty. Pakistan has objected to two aspects of these projects. First objection is that India is diverting waters of the Neelum river into Ravi for increasing the supply of water to the Kishanganga project. The water of Neelum will flow to Pakistan through the Ravi after generation of electricity; instead of flowing directly through the Neelum itself. There is no reduction in the supply of water to Pakistan — only the point of supply is being changed from Neelum to Ravi. Pakistan is not convinced. Pakistan is building hydropower projects on the Neelum river downstream after she enters Pakistan. The diversion of water of the Neelum to Ravi will reduce the water available to the downstream projects on Neelum being made by Pakistan.:rofl:

The Treaty does not explicitly says whether Indian can or cannot divert water of one river of Pakistan quota to another river of Pakistan quota.:hehe:


The Treaty only says that India will not make any consumptive use of the waters. Hence, India’s action is in the grey area. That said, this much is true that the investment made by Pakistan on downstream projects on the Neelum will be rendered waste if the water of Neelum is diverted to Ravi and supplied to Pakistan through the Ravi.:india2::cruisin2:


The second objection raised by Pakistan is that the flushing of sediment done by the Kishanganga Project will disturb the flow of sediments and affect the working of downstream hydropower projects on the Ravi. :clap2:Sediments are brought by the river from upstream and are accumulated in the reservoir behind the dam of hydropower projects. These sediments fill the reservoir behind the dam. In due course of time, often as short as a couple of years, the reservoir gets filled up with sediments and is no longer able to hold the water for supplying to the turbines in a regulated manner. The project becomes dysfunctional once this happens. Gates are installed at the bottom of the dams to flush out the sediments to overcome this problem. These gates are opened, say, once a week. At this time a gush of sediments is flushed out of the reservoir, the sediments are removed and the project remains functional. Pakistan has objected that the flushing undertaken by India leads to a gush of sediments at a particular time and disturbs the working of the downstream hydropower projects being made by it. Pakistan’s objection is technically correct. These two objections made by Pakistan were referred to the World Bank under the mediation clause built into the Treaty. The World Bank has largely given decision in favour of India. The details are not important here. The overall situation, then, is that India and Pakistan entered into the Indus Treaty in a spirit of goodwill and friendship. India gave 80 per cent of the waters of the west-flowing rivers to Pakistan to secure this goodwill and friendship.

The support by Pakistan to cross-border terrorism has removed this basic foundation of the Treaty. Therefore, India is within her rights to abrogate the Treaty and deny the 80 per cent water of the rivers to Pakistan. But Pakistan has made a fool of India by raising petty technical matters such as diversion of waters from the Neelum to the Ravi and installation of flushing gates in the hydropower projects. :india: In accepting the validity of these disputes, and by not abrogating the Treaty, India has allowed itself to be trapped into these petty issues and strayed away from raising the basic violation of the Treaty by Pakistan in the sponsor of cross-border terrorism. :india:

This is like the wrongdoer in a property dispute cleverly raising the issue of what clothes are worn by the contending parties and distracting attention from the property dispute. India must wake up. We should remind ourselves that the there is no International law that binds India to honour the Treaty. The United Nations has passed a non-binding resolution that an upstream country will take into account the interests of the downstream country in managing its international rivers. India is within her rights to abrogate the Treaty and start diverting the 80 per cent waters presently she is allowing to flow to Pakistan until Pakistan stops sponsoring cross-border terror.

Formerly Professor of Economics at IIM Bengaluru By Dr Bharat Jhunjhunwala


 

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Pakistan's envy, India's pride: PM Narendra Modi to dedicate 330 MW Kishanganga power project to nation


A long-cherished dream is becoming a reality on Saturday when Prime Minister Narendra Modi will dedicate the 330 Mega Watt (MW) Kishanganga Hydro Power project to nation.

An engineering marvel, the project, constructed near Line of Control (LoC) in Gurez, saw many ups and downs and international arbitration after Pakistan's objections.

Constructed at a cost of Rs 2726 crore, the work on this power project started in 2007 in the geologically complex Himalayan region. Spread over 379 hectares across two valleys, it has an integrated project with rockfill dam, tunnel and powerhouse being built under one single contract.

The highlight of the project is the 23.24-km-long head race tunnel. "It was built by two methods. "Around 8.14 km from Gurez side was built by Drill and Blast (DBM) method while the 15.1 km from Bandipora side was by Tunnel Boring Machine. The remote location throws numerous logistical and connectivity challenges for transportation of heavy machinery, men and material," said IA Benny Project Manager, Hindustan Construction Company.

The biggest challenge for the engineers was the transporting TBM from Mumbai to the project site. The shipment containing 160 containers was planned in three lots. Lot 1 had 52 containers plus 10 Over Dimensional Consignments (ODCs), Lot 2 had 48 containers plus eight ODC and Lot 3 had 45 containers.

The major hurdle was crossing the Jawahar Tunnel connecting Jammu with Kashmir. The height of Jawahar tunnel at 4.6 metres was just enough to clear the containers. However for transporting ODC special trailers were used with depleted tyres.

"We are very proud to say that we could complete the strategic project. On May 19, the PM will dedicate this project to nation. We are part of the nation building and we are proud of it," said Benny.

The project, however, ran into rough weather number of times after Pakistan appealed to the Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration (CoA), complaining that Kishanganga Hydro Power project violates the 1960 Indus River Treaty by increasing the catchment of the Jhelum River and depriving Pakistan of its water rights in 2010.

Under the 1960 treaty, India has forfeited the claim to use and store the waters of three rivers —Jhelum, Chenab and Indus — flowing from Jammu and Kashmir into Pakistan in exchange of three rivers — Satluj, Beas and Ravi. The treaty prevents the storage of the water of Jhelum, Chenab and Indus rivers otherwise owned by the state.

In June 2011, the CoA visited both Kishanganga and Neelum–Jhelum Projects. In August 2011, the court ordered India to submit more technical data on this project.

After Pakistan's application was rejected, the court asked India in late September 2011 to stop constructing any permanent works that would inhibit restoration of the river. While India could not construct the dam, NHPC continued the work on the tunnel and power house in the hope that the court order will finally favour India.

On December 20, 2013, the International Court of Arbitration gave its final ruling, wherein it allowed India to go ahead with the construction of the Kishanganga dam. The final verdict specified that nine cumecs of natural flow of water must be maintained in Kishanganga river at all times to maintain the environment downstream.


PAKISTAN’S ENVY, INDIA’S PRIDE ::

The highlight of the project is the 23.24-km-long head race tunnel.
Around 8.14 km from Gurez side was built by Drill and Blast (DBM) method while the 15.1 km from Bandipora side was by Tunnel Boring Machine.
The biggest challenge was transportation of TBM from Mumbai to the site


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...w-kishanganga-power-project-to-nation-2615924
 

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Pakistan's envy, India's pride: PM Narendra Modi to dedicate 330 MW Kishanganga power project to nation


A long-cherished dream is becoming a reality on Saturday when Prime Minister Narendra Modi will dedicate the 330 Mega Watt (MW) Kishanganga Hydro Power project to nation.

An engineering marvel, the project, constructed near Line of Control (LoC) in Gurez, saw many ups and downs and international arbitration after Pakistan's objections.

Constructed at a cost of Rs 2726 crore, the work on this power project started in 2007 in the geologically complex Himalayan region. Spread over 379 hectares across two valleys, it has an integrated project with rockfill dam, tunnel and powerhouse being built under one single contract.

The highlight of the project is the 23.24-km-long head race tunnel. "It was built by two methods. "Around 8.14 km from Gurez side was built by Drill and Blast (DBM) method while the 15.1 km from Bandipora side was by Tunnel Boring Machine. The remote location throws numerous logistical and connectivity challenges for transportation of heavy machinery, men and material," said IA Benny Project Manager, Hindustan Construction Company.

The biggest challenge for the engineers was the transporting TBM from Mumbai to the project site. The shipment containing 160 containers was planned in three lots. Lot 1 had 52 containers plus 10 Over Dimensional Consignments (ODCs), Lot 2 had 48 containers plus eight ODC and Lot 3 had 45 containers.

The major hurdle was crossing the Jawahar Tunnel connecting Jammu with Kashmir. The height of Jawahar tunnel at 4.6 metres was just enough to clear the containers. However for transporting ODC special trailers were used with depleted tyres.

"We are very proud to say that we could complete the strategic project. On May 19, the PM will dedicate this project to nation. We are part of the nation building and we are proud of it," said Benny.

The project, however, ran into rough weather number of times after Pakistan appealed to the Hague's Permanent Court of Arbitration (CoA), complaining that Kishanganga Hydro Power project violates the 1960 Indus River Treaty by increasing the catchment of the Jhelum River and depriving Pakistan of its water rights in 2010.

Under the 1960 treaty, India has forfeited the claim to use and store the waters of three rivers —Jhelum, Chenab and Indus — flowing from Jammu and Kashmir into Pakistan in exchange of three rivers — Satluj, Beas and Ravi. The treaty prevents the storage of the water of Jhelum, Chenab and Indus rivers otherwise owned by the state.

In June 2011, the CoA visited both Kishanganga and Neelum–Jhelum Projects. In August 2011, the court ordered India to submit more technical data on this project.

After Pakistan's application was rejected, the court asked India in late September 2011 to stop constructing any permanent works that would inhibit restoration of the river. While India could not construct the dam, NHPC continued the work on the tunnel and power house in the hope that the court order will finally favour India.

On December 20, 2013, the International Court of Arbitration gave its final ruling, wherein it allowed India to go ahead with the construction of the Kishanganga dam. The final verdict specified that nine cumecs of natural flow of water must be maintained in Kishanganga river at all times to maintain the environment downstream.


PAKISTAN’S ENVY, INDIA’S PRIDE ::

The highlight of the project is the 23.24-km-long head race tunnel.
Around 8.14 km from Gurez side was built by Drill and Blast (DBM) method while the 15.1 km from Bandipora side was by Tunnel Boring Machine.
The biggest challenge was transportation of TBM from Mumbai to the site


http://www.dnaindia.com/india/repor...w-kishanganga-power-project-to-nation-2615924

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Pakistani rivers getting lowest flow of water from India, may affect crops

Rayyan Baig

THE water is the most precious commodity on the earth, without water there is no concept of life on the planet. It’s the foundation for the agriculture and industrial development; no water means no development, no food and no life. The biggest challenge confronting living beings on earth is the availability of sustainable clean potable water. Though 70 % of the earth is covered with water but 98% of this water is unusable. Only 2 percent of the water is fresh water, out of which 1.6 percent is locked up in the polar ice caps and glaciers and only 0.3 percent is usable. This 0.3 percent is proving to be insufficient and unsuitable due to population explosion and environmental factors, created by human beings. This shortage of water is feared to be the cause of future conflicts/ wars between and among nations.

Pakistan is faced with multiple challenges with regards to water i.e., population explosion, shortage of water, environmental factors, mismanagement/ misuse of water and above all the apathy by all concerned about the looming threat. As per international standards any country having the availability of water over 1700 m3/ person/year is known to have abundance of water, less than 1700 m3 water is called water stressed and less than 1000 m3 as water scarce. From a lavish 5500 m3/person/year availability of water in Pakistan at the time of independence, it has fallen to around 1000 m3 in just 70 years, it is feared to be down to 800 m3 by 2025.''

Before partition six major rivers used to flow into Pakistan from Kashmir namely Indus, Jhelum, Chenab, Ravi, Beas and Sutlej. The Hindu leadership and British Indian Administration conspired and drew unjust political boundary between Pakistan and India right across the Indus Basin, making Pakistan lower riparian of India. The headwaters were intentionally kept on Indian side giving her physical control to cut off supply of water to Pakistan at will. As intended, immediately after partition India stopped the supply of water to Pakistan from every canal flowing from India into Pakistan, compelling it to go for an agreement on the issue. After extensive negotiations through World Bank the famous Indus Water Treaty was signed between both the countries. The three Eastern Rivers were exclusively given to India and three Western rivers were given to Pakistan, with restricted use to India. Over a period, India violated the treaty and built dams/ reservoirs, diverted the water of rivers and obstructed the agreed flow of water of these rivers to Pakistan. She has built the capability to stop Pakistan’s water for 30 days or flood Pakistan whenever desired. This year Pakistani rivers are getting the lowest flow of water from India which may also affect the crops in Pakistan.

The reduction of water coupled with the population explosion ie 6.3 times increase in 70 years, from 33.7 million in 1947 to 212.7 million in 2017, has compounded the problem. The mass migration of population to urban centers, industrialization and unscientific agriculture has further accentuated the situation. Unfortunately, no steps have been taken by the successive governments to resolve the problem despite being highlighted by the World Bank decades ago. After IWT, amidst the construction of Tarbela and Mangla dams, the WAPDA felt the need of more water reservoirs to meet future requirements. In 1963 on the request of President Ayub khan the World Bank assigned the experts to conduct a study known as “Indus Special Study”. The three and a half years long study suggested that for continued financial progress Pakistan needs to have another big dam by 1992. It further said that to complete said work Pakistan must start necessary work by 1977. Surprisingly, much before the controversy, the study recommended construction of Kalabagh Dam, due to its natural location, followed by Bhasha Dam. Sadly, no concrete steps have been taken since then, we wasted unforgiveable precious time in politics and threw billions of MAF water into the sea. Due to the absence of big reservoirs tens of millions of MAF floods water goes to the sea unutilized causing havoc enroot. At times the wasted flood water equals more than half of the country’s annual requirement. The existing dams are also fast losing their capacity due to the accumulation of millions of tons of silt every year. Another problem is the low system efficiency of canals and conventional method of irrigation which wastes lot of water.


There is no governmental policy on groundwater extraction, resultantly it is mercilessly extracted causing the water tables to drop with alarming speed. Similarly, the absence of rules/ checks and balance by the government on the treatment of waste water results into huge quantity of polluted water/ toxic material dropping into the rivers, canals and getting mixed up with subsoil water. As a nation we too do not have any realization and waste lot of water in our daily lives. Pakistan is among the countries with least forests, the irony is that still ruthless deforestation takes place, between 1990 and 2005 Pakistan lost 24.7% of its forest cover. As per the World Bank data Pakistan’s forest area dropped from 3.3% in 1990 to 1.9 % in 2015 of its total land mass area. This drop adversely affected the overall climate, rainfall, snowfall and availability of water in the country. Being an agrarian economy the present state of affairs doesn’t augur well for Pakistan. If we don’t wake up as a nation, God forbid, what to talk of exporting grains we won’t be able to meet even our domestic requirements. Stringent laws need to be enacted to ensure that no untreated/ polluted water gets into the rivers, canals or drains. There should also be some check/ policy and price tag on the extraction of subsoil water. All public buildings, schools, hospitals and mosques etc should mandatorily have sensor taps instead of existing classic faucets. Last but not the least, we in individual capacities and as a nation also need to learn to conserve water and check its pollution.



https://pakobserver.net/pakistani-rivers-getting-lowest-flow-of-water-from-india-may-affect-crops/


Good!!! One article a day on water woes will be a good start in pakistan.
no matter what season.
 

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