"My target is 100 children", says father of 35

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But we can't blame those families. That's is their only way to get out of poverty. It is other thing that Govt. should facilitate infrastructure, quality education, banks, etc there; atleast like a small town. They have no other option. If one child didn't get proper education, you have another to raise. If that one dies for some reason, yet you have another child in stockpile. That's how it goes. When a BPL family reaches low middle class status, they automatically decrease child birth rate. When in upper middle class, decrease even more. And highly rich families hardly have more than 1-2 children as the situation is different. There is so much wealth that they don't want to divide that with themselves, so less children. That's why I always say to give equal oppertunities, facilities to all ASAP. Otherwise we will always have a curse and vicious cycle, i.e, poor continuing more children which is burden for country.
 

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But we can't blame those families. That's is their only way to get out of poverty.
That's true. The 'individual' is the weakest unit in any society, he cannot be blamed for trying to circumvent the realities imposed on him by decisions made by/for the collective. Having said that, I wouldn't extend the same logic to the muslims though because unlike the sample set for your case study (Indian poor), this sample set isn't exactly a product of economic engineering (global community of muslims). Their social engineering is steeped in theological endorsement of more children. The best way to verify this theory is to do an A/B testing and you will find that even if you swap all other economic indicators, nationality and economic models, there is a pattern of higher population growth amount muslims cutting across the spectrum and political or economic ideology of their nation.

There is a trend (not exception) of rich muslim families in capitalist western countries having more kids, poor muslim families having more kids, muslim families in socialist and communist countries having more kids, basically more kids regardless of other factors. One can't put the blame on poor economy or economic inequality in this case. It's purely theological. One could understand if it were merely culturally localized (like FGM) but it really is theological (like circumcision). More kids are considered good, primarily for theological reasons, the economic reasons are orthogonal and incidental and only sometimes economical.

Your theory applies to Hindus very well because when they are poor, they have more kids, but when there is upward social/economic mobility, the average number of kids is reduced. In a way this validates your theory, but same is not true for muslim families. Otherwise rich muslims wouldn't have had so many kids. For them, it's considered a gift from god, and they keep yearning for more gifts, regardless of their financial standing. The best testament to this is the man who is featured in the news himself (and many other Ghazis like him), when interviewed by news channels about their finances, they say "if I had more money, I could have even more kids, god willing". This directly contradicts your economic theory which equates financial upliftment with less kids. Here, the propensity to have more kids is not adversely affected by more income, on the contrary it is exacerbated.

Ideologically motivated people will continue to pursue an unsustainable game plan, you can't use any logical theory to rationalize their behavior. Ideology is inherently irrational. In short, jihadis will be jihadis.
 

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thank God he is not in India. .....
There are many in India who are like him. Each one may not have 35~100 kids so it doesn't show up in Limca and Guniess book of world records but if you look up the recently released census survey of India, you will find that muslims have a higher fertility rate than any other community, cutting across economic and class barriers. They have an average of 4 kids or at least 3; 2 is considered a failure to contribute to the 'Kaum', because there is no comparative 'increase'. A family having 2 kids implies they are only replacing themselves, not adding new Ghazis to the pool.

A good Khatoon is expected to pop out at least 4 cartoons.
 

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There are many in India who are like him. Each one may not have 35~100 kids so it doesn't show up in Limca and Guniess book of world records but if you look up the recently released census survey of India, you will find that muslims have a higher fertility rate than any other community, cutting across economic and class barriers. They have an average of 4 kids or at least 3; 2 is considered a failure to contribute to the 'Kaum', because there is no comparative 'increase'. A family having 2 kids implies they are only replacing themselves, not adding new Ghazis to the pool.

A good Khatoon is expected to pop out at least 4 cartoons.

because marriage and aulaad is sunnah for muslims.
 

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No need many cases of this kind reported in India too
paki population growth rate has remained higher than India's since 1947. :lol:
Moreover, India's population will start decline after increasing by just 30%. Meanwhile pak will at least multiply it by three times.
Funny thing is that, when Indian population would be increased by just 30% in 2060 , you will have doubled your population.
But you won't be overtaking our economy anytime soon because our GDP per capita will be your 5-6 times by then. :p
but I wish you explain how Dropati makes her all 5 husbands happy at once...?
Just like you guys have 5 wives on earth and 72 in heaven.
Plus sometimes father marries his daughter.
Bro and sis marry together.
I'm a secularist person and but you have provoked me over the issue of religion.

Q. What to do when you will have to make 1+1 =3.
Ans. Get them married.
Q. What to do if you've to make 1+1=11
Ans. Do their nikakh.
Seriously, India has high population because of large size, high immigration but you guys really breed like pigs.
:love:

:kiss:

:baby::baby:
may be @Neytiri answers this :bounce:
How pervert are you to drag girls into such discussion.
No doubt why your rape per capita is 3-4 times of India. Shameless muzzies. :tsk:
 

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Will never get to 100 with 3 wives.
He's got to bat with a few more for that century.
With 3 wives means on an average each wife has to beget 33 children ! Not possible for any mammal.
 

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I salute the giuy for putting his thesis into actual practice , he insists that a smaller family does not bring hapiness but rather a larger one ( something akin to that ) .....and from what i understand he is not doing it via govt expenses but rather on his own ?

it that's the case then i think the people and govt in india should consider his model of family relations
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i had a different set of numbers fro a french study group ....china has already peaked and is already declining , india to peak at 2 billion round about end of century , Peskystan to peak at 500 million

http://www.newgeography.com/content/002940-pakistan-where-population-bomb-exploding
in this reference , it is interesting that india's growth rate is HIGHER than Bdedsh's

http://www.theguardian.com/global-d...-the-2015-revision-9-7-billion-2050-fertility

in this article the graph shows pakstan as having a gradual growth rate along with a whole hos of others .....the same graph shows india's growth rate as slightly higher than that group and nigerias as being v much higher

nigeria is the one to watch , they may peak at well above 2 billion ?

and while peskystan is shown as being in the group with the others, perhaps , the figures may have been manipulated by their govt so as not to cause alarm ?
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I may add at the risk of receiving brickbats, Muzzies require large number of sons to fight their holy-war (Jehad). What for Hindus like Lalu yadav produce 9 children? years ago when a reporter asked, Lalu allegedly muttered "Bhagwan ki kripa hai". The man had the gumption to accuse God of fornicating with his wife.
 

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