Muslims protesting against Myanmar killings and Assam riots turn violent

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I will only wish HAPPY RAMADAN to all of those pious beings who have hit the streets to prove a point. They are doing a good job according to their conscience and their empty bellies which will be served with best delights of this world today evening.
 

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Whoever among those protesting wanting to move to BD/Pak or any other "Islamic" country should be sent at the earliest including Owaisi.

The rest of the Muslims who eat, drink, sleep, breathe India can do so in peace.

Seriously, the government should have the balls to ask who wants to leave India if they in any manner don't "identify" with India. I know te numbers will not be large so an orderly send off will be possible. At least these 50,000 or 100,000 people don't tarnish the rest of the millions of Muslims who live in India and invite the hatred of Hindus who we are perfectly in ease with.
 

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Seriously where is this Assam? Place known for Bodos. What part of india is it? :troll:
It's a part of China. Once a guy asked me like 'Assam is in manipur?'. I liked his geography, and I replied back 'yes mate'.
 

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Whoever among those protesting wanting to move to BD/Pak or any other "Islamic" country should be sent at the earliest including Owaisi.

The rest of the Muslims who eat, drink, sleep, breathe India can do so in peace.

Seriously, the government should have the balls to ask who wants to leave India if they in any manner don't "identify" with India. I know te numbers will not be large so an orderly send off will be possible. At least these 50,000 or 100,000 people don't tarnish the rest of the millions of Muslims who live in India and invite the hatred of Hindus who we are perfectly in ease with.
Yusuf, Sikhs in USA have showed us a way. Even though they found themselves at the receiving end more than once, they still maintained their composure and did not turn to vigilantism, and hence gained the sympathy of the whole country. Our society has been trapped into a cycle of violence and counter violence. None of the two sides seem to be backing off now. It has now become extremely hard to distinguish between a trouble maker and a victim.

Our system has become faulty beyond repair. Our Law enforcement agencies have been politicized to such an extent that it is extremely hard to put trust in them that they will act in an impartial manner. Legal provisions are being used to protect the criminals instead of protecting the innocent. Situation is grim.
 

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What is the official Government response to this violence and what is the Assam CM pleading for peace in Mumbai. He should focus on his state, get the Government back on the street.

Maharashtra CM and RR Patil have not yet come out with official response and strategy so that the violence is contained immediately.
 

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If they think that this is the right way, then they should not complain if Non-Muslim mobs resort to violence after every bomb blast claiming innocent lives in any part of this world. This should have been done right after 26/11 and after every act of terror. May be that will deter some of them, they will have to think about their families before planting a bomb or before pulling the trigger.
 

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why arnt ndtv/cnn-ibn/tn are reporting it ?? only news waalas are reprting it . is this called secularism . it hindus are to be blamed for . they are divided it among class -caste and continue to support congress/bsp/sp. our coming generation would suffer because of mentality of such stupids people
 

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What is the official Government response to this violence and what is the Assam CM pleading for peace in Mumbai. He should focus on his state, get the Government back on the street.

Maharashtra CM and RR Patil have not yet come out with official response and strategy so that the violence is contained immediately.
I don't think they want to contain. It suits them.
 

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Yusuf, Sikhs in USA have showed us a way. Even though they found themselves at the receiving end more than once, they still maintained their composure and did not turn to vigilantism, and hence gained the sympathy of the whole country. Our society has been trapped into a cycle of violence and counter violence. None of the two sides seem to be backing off now. It has now become extremely hard to distinguish between a trouble maker and a victim.

Our system has become faulty beyond repair. Our Law enforcement agencies have been politicized to such an extent that it is extremely hard to put trust in them that they will act in an impartial manner. Legal provisions are being used to protect the criminals instead of protecting the innocent. Situation is grim.
Right Wing would then do well to rise to change the system which breeds discrimination than rise against a particular community. Its the system which allowed politicians to manipulate the people and put the country in a mess.

If the executive, judiciary, legislative, law enforcement was separated with checks as balances, this would not have come to pass.
 

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Latest : in the place i lived they are flying SP flags....Migrants..:facepalm:
 

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Right Wing would then do well to rise to change the system which breeds discrimination than rise against a particular community. Its the system which allowed politicians to manipulate the people and put the country in a mess.

If the executive, judiciary, legislative, law enforcement was separated with checks as balances, this would not have come to pass.
I am sorry to say this but our current system is beyond repair. It has been corrupted to it's foundations by the party which has ruled over us for most of years after independence. Nobody but us are responsible for such mess and we deserve to pay for it.

Solution can only come from us the general public, and not from the politicians, even the Right Wing has god it's vested interest. I am trying to hear some sane voices, but I haven't succeeded so far. Nobody including me supports the Right Wing religiously, because the best path is always the middle path, but we have run out of options. Our faith in the foundation of this nation has been shaken.
 

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Right Wing would then do well to rise to change the system which breeds discrimination than rise against a particular community. Its the system which allowed politicians to manipulate the people and put the country in a mess.

Right wing does not need to do anything special to breed discrimination. but these people are more than enough to encourage discrimination agaainst themselves.

One small example - If these people are prone to such behaviour, how would any one trust them with flats and when they refuse they call it anti-muslim discrimination. This is how things begin.



Raza Academy ? That's a Barelvi organization. Neither Deobandis, nor Wahhabis but Sufis.

Raza Academy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They are promoting a nice "culture". :rolleyes:
 

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Seems like Asaduddin Owaisi had to do a lot of cleaning up on his Twitter account after the kind of messages he received from the netizens in past few days.
It says
@asadowaisi's account is protected.

and all his tweets have vanished.
 

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Tooic not related to this thread but part of it has relevance here and what I talked about Saudi money in India

Considering there are some 170-180 million Muslims in India and about 25-30 percent of this population are shias, the country's West Asia policy, not unreasonably, has walked on eggshells. It has refused to tilt the majority sunni or the minority shia way and inertness of posture has, for once, been a virtue – commended as much by realpolitik as common sense. And then in February this year, the Congress party coalition government seemed to throw it all away, jettisoning caution and the long-nursed attitude of aloofness to the usual tumult in that region. As temporary member of the United Nations Security Council (UNSC), India voted against the Alawaite-shia regime of Bashar al-Assad in Syria. Following upon the vote for intervention against Gaddafi's Libya the year before, it heralded India's tacking to a new policy of supporting interventions at the behest of major sunni states backed by Western powers.

The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) was quick to put out, however, that the February resolution did no more than ask for a cessation of hostilities by all sides and, in that sense, was unobjectionable. Except, the campaign against Damascus was kick-started by this resolution, and the groundwork was laid for a more intrusive approach. Sure enough, a resolution in the General Assembly followed on August 4 with Saudi Arabia and Qatar taking the lead in crafting a resolution that imposed sanctions and demanded that Assad step down. Much politicking later, the resolution was whittled down to merely urging Assad to go. But Indian Permanent Representative at the UN, Hardip Puri, explained that the offending part was its reference to a previous Arab League resolution, absent which, he indicated, India may well have supported the resolution and, perhaps, got the country deeper into a jam.

The fact that the Arab League has been turned by Saudi Arabia into an essentially sunni Muslim platform is not a surprise – oil and money speak.- Riyadh's using it to oust shiite governments in the region is a new development. The Saud family fears both physical endangerment and the possibility of Tehran and Damascus instigating a Saudi shia rebellion. Were a separate shia homeland within Saudi Arabia to be carved out, Riyadh will lose most sources of its oil found in the Nejd and other provinces populated by the shias. That this is also, quite literally, a fight to the death was brought home to the Sauds with the killing on July 23 of Bandar bin Sultan – former ambassador in Washington and close to the US government — by a bomb that exploded in the offices of the General Intelligence Agency he headed. If Bandar couldn't be protected, no one in the Saud family is safe. It explains the Saudi vehemence in dealing with Iran and Assad.

Or just, may be, terrorism that the Sauds have spawned for decades is coming home to roost. So far Riyadh escaped the winds of Islamic extremism because it had managed to direct the extremist-wahabbist impulses outward. No regime has been more responsible for spreading terror world-wide than the Sauds. This has been done through the Islamic charities that channel funds, especially to trusts in South Asia. The result is a profusion of Hafiz Saeeds frothing at their mouths and the various Lashkars active in Pakistan. And in India Saudi monies have incubated communalism by polarizing previously peaceful societies, such as in Kerala, for instance, and funded the building of a series of new mosques in India's terai region to propagate wahabbist beliefs, as the Intelligence Bureau has been reporting to government. For Saudi Arabia to blame Bashar for the violence in Syria then is a bit rich. And for India to associate itself in any way with Saudi moves is to get sucked inexorably into the big sunni-shia conflagration in the making. The timid Congress-coalition government has yet to issue a demarche to Riyadh to cease and desist on the wahabbist funding front or even to implement some basic policing – like monitoring just how and where the Saudi and Gulf funds go to do what.

Consider the larger picture. Four Russian warships, presumably laden with military hardware and stores, have docked at the Tartarus naval base on the Mediterranean in northern Syria that Damascus has provided for Russian naval use. A Chinese missile destroyer has entered the Mediterranean ostensibly for naval exercises with Russian and Syrian warships off Syria's coast. With Russia and China committing military support for the Assad regime, it is even less likely Bashar will bow to external pressure. With U.S. President Barack Obama deciding overtly to arm the sunni rebels and making it Washington's business to oust Assad, the fat may be on fire because Russian President Vladimir Putin is determined to restore Russia's lost status and stand up to the United States. Syria is the regional hotspot where Russia may decide to eye-ball America.

Worse, Turkey is being drawn into the fray. With Turkish Alawites sympathetic to Syria and insurgent Turkish Kurds likely to join with the opportunistic Syrian Kurds in seeking independence, a largely sunni Turkey may get together with the U.S. and the Sauds, though this will not restore the status quo ante that would, other than Bashar, benefit it the most. With the Battle for Aleppo developing into a decisive encounter and Aleppo bordering Turkey, American material assistance is bound overland to transit through this sunni majority town, seriously compromising Ankara.

West Asia is a hornets nest. Russia and China are doing the heavy lifting of vetoing UN resolutions targeting Syria. It is best for India, in the circumstances, to abstain on all UN votes relating remotely to West Asia and otherwise distance itself, foreign policy-wise, from the unfolding drama in those parts. There is no other way of minimizing the adverse fallout on the law and order situation in this country when the situation blows up. Home Minister Sushil Kumar Shinde better anticipate trouble, alert the state intelligence agencies, order strict policing, and take pre-emptive measures now, unless he wants again to be in the dark when the crisis hits.
http://bharatkarnad.com/2012/08/11/hand-in-the-hornets-nest/
 

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