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^ Actually I differ @Bornubus, the American - Africans people are nice and down to earth. They understand what racism is and more than often stand along with non Americans on the issue. In US the conviction rate, poverty, unemployment among them is really very high. And its not that they are more crime prone than others, its just that system holds them guilty more than often. The western system favors white and those who "serve" white, because decision makers in system are predominantly white. Just think when Obama was contesting for presidency, what kind of vile racists rants he had to hear from not only his opposition but also from within his party. And they are yet to stand on their own feet as official discrimination ended only in late 60's - early 70's. It wil take come more time and efforts to completely have homogenized society. US will have to get up and sit , and really think on three things:
1. Curb private gun ownership. Have system in place similar to Britain or India with regards civilian gun ownership.
2. Introduce reservations for their American-Africans and Native Americans modeled on the lines of Indian reservation system for Backward classes. It does help in maintaining social harmony of country.
3. Tone down Police Aggression. Have you ever seen in India a traffic police man carrying gun while challan-ing/fining a speeding car? In America, Traffic cops approach traffic offender with one hand on gun in holster.

Infact, strictly implementing first will help immensely in implementing third.
 

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An interesting thing which came to my notice was that China has a human rights council exclusively dedicated to hearing human rights violations happening in the US (informally referred to as the "China Human Rights Report"). This government organization was apparently started by China as a tit-for-tat response to the US taking potshots at China being a human rights shithole. Immediately after this happened, the US reports about Chinese human rights violations went down drastically, now it rarely gets any coverage in US media, except an oblique and vague reference here and there about lack of 'freedom', but the pointed ideologically motivated attacks aimed at shaming China on the international platform have stopped.
We need to follow it.................................................................
 

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Absolutely spot on.
What's more sickening is that instead of starting afresh and building upon what has already been achieved, the blacks have given into exploiting "the white man's guilt" and their own inferiority complex.
When the Europeans landed in Africa to colonise, they did not find even one two-storied house in the entire continent. This is the history and civilisation of the Negroes. There are of course natural reasons for this, the most significant of them being the IQ, which is lowest in the world.
@Batfan says they are not dumb becuase they are black, but this is exactly why they are dumb. A whole race devoid of any great ruler, any great city, any great empire, any great architecture is inferior in all aspects. We don't even have to look at the colour of the skin. Even if a white skinned civilisation were so backward we would call them dumb. But then again, the white, the brown, the yellow and the red are not so dumb are they?

Blacks are surely more racist in America than whites. Also noteworthy is the deep difference between "African Americans" and true Africans. Africans are everything the afro-ams are not. At least they do not have a rootless existence. At least they have a country, their own land, their own waters. At least they have their own shanties to grow into cities (just like Europe was a shanty once upon a time). I have respect for Africans, but no respect for the spoilt and illiterate Negroes Americans so lovingly call "African Americans".
India won't be different than Africa if all its states would have demanded to be different nations. That's what happening in Africa and ME. There is identity conflict and who is greater than who. We luckily got to be a unified nation but that's what the Africa isn't previlaged with. Africa along with Asian colonies were the reason why Europe became prosperous.
Although I can agree with you on the part that huge number of African-American just forget how privileged they are than their African counter parts and the Africans are the one why i have respect for the blacks.

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2. Introduce reservations for their American-Africans and Native Americans modeled on the lines of Indian reservation system for Backward classes. It does help in maintaining social harmony of country.
No it is discrimination, take people on the bases on race is wrong.No will hire or take dumb and incompetent people because they are of a fixed race.Why is Indian American community so successful ,because they want to be . The richest community in USA is Asian not whites it is why because they are more hard working and more educated. Reservation has done nothing for India ,it is a failure ,it is just a political tool.
 
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3. Tone down Police Aggression. Have you ever seen in India a traffic police man carrying gun while challan-ing/fining a speeding car? In America, Traffic cops approach traffic offender with one hand on gun in holster.
In India people do not gun.In USA every Tom Dick and Harry has a gun so why it Police has guns.
 

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o it is discrimination, take people on the bases on race is wrong.No will hire or take dumb and incompetent people because they are of a fixed race
Unfortunately the white man of America has given in to this as well. They call it affirmative action. That by itself is a kind of reservation.
In South Africa they have quotas for blacks. If a company or a group of individuals fail to satisfy the quota, strict action is taken. Stupid whites.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-to-be-South-African/articleshow/52006495.cms
 

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Why are we comapring ourselves (India) with dark continent Africa like a Rabid reatrd.

There was no force which could've had prevented us to form single political entity, yes India was occupied by foreigners but it was only Indians that freed this country ---- United India was an inevitibility if not in 1947 than few years later but salute to Sardar patel that he made this happen by 1950. Hindus will always live together, they always had, our Gurus came from South and establish 4 dham at 4 corners. Similarly Aryan ideas traveled to south by various Rishis such as Agastya.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agastya

There is no comparison of India with any other nation on this earth. We have our own unique identity.

India was an united entity bounded by common ideas for thousands of years. Even before British it was a single political entity from Mauryan to British. Even though it was devided among kingdoms, they were our people. I am from north but i''ve much in common with a Andhra guy than a Paki even though my ancestral village is not 500 KM from Pakistan Border.
 

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Actually I differ @Bornubus, the American - Africans people are nice and down to earth. They understand what racism is and more than often stand along with non Americans on the issue.
Yes they are but there are some people with a few screw lose like every community .
In South Africa they have quotas for blacks. If a company or a group of individuals fail to satisfy the quota, strict action is taken. Stupid whites.
Well SA went from one of the most advance country in Africa to rape and crime of Africa.
 

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Now the gun laws will be made more stringent in USA.

The reason being, White population constitutionally got guns to keep Blacks in check.

This incident will change the way White population think about guns as Blacks have now shown their 'Intent' and 'Motive' by this 'Act' of violence using sophisticated guns.

The aftermath is not how many people got killed or will be killed, but now Black population know who to escalate.

I would warn watchers not to treat it as typical USA gun violence incident.

I pray for the victims. I strongly believe Blacks themselves are stakeholders in story of USA. I hope sense will prevail and white population will introspect with compassion not inventing yet another smart way to curb dissent to keep themselves at eternal advantage.
Black people aren't going to get any justice there. The odds have always been stacked against them in a systemic manner. Every time there is an uprising, the establishment uses underhanded tactics to suppress it. They either carry out false flag attacks to malign the entire movement or take the case of assassinations of black leaders like Malcom X and other opinion makers during the 1950-2000 period. Civil rights activist Medgar Evers was assassinated by Byron De La Beckwith, a member of the White Citizens Council. Fred Hampton, a leader for the Black Panther Party in Chicago, Illinois was killed in his apartment during a police raid while sleeping, unarmed in 1968. Harry and Hariette Moore were a husband and wife team of civil rights activists and teachers who founded the NAACP in Brevard County, Florida. In 1951, the couple’s house was bombed and both of them were murdered. Martin Luther King was the face and voice of the civil rights movement. Martin would serve as a martyr for the movement after he was killed in Memphis in 1968.

Stop kidding yourself with this white-centric narrative of 'stakeholders'. It is this re-conciliatory tone which led people even in India to demand semi-autonomous dominion status when others were asking for full independence during our freedom struggle. Notice how the white crowd there has unanimously responded with disdain against this #BLM movement right from the average joe on the street to the top level leadership. I've never seen any white person speaking about re-conciliation. They go about their business with realpolitik in mind.

Sarah Palin: Black Lives Matter is a 'farce'
 
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No it is discrimination, take people on the bases on race is wrong.No will hire or take dumb and incompetent people because they are of a fixed race.Why is Indian American community so successful ,because they want to be . The richest community in USA is Asian not whites it is why because they are more hard working and more educated. Reservation has done nothing for India ,it is a failure ,it is just a political tool.
Bahamut, the wrong in reservation system is precisely what was wrong in caste system. That is ability to pass benefits of "caste privileges" from ancestors to offspring on virtue of being born in that caste. The system should prevent families who already benefited from the reservation once and make way way for other down trodden. And after few years reassess your society which community or set of people will benefit from such reservations,and extend it to them, so that they can again stand on their feet.

The reservation system's drawbacks are there because how it has been twisted by politicos for their needs. The reservation system should only be seen as "repair system". And as such providing reservations for downtrodden so that they can stand on their own feet should be done
 

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yes, because whatever little prosperity Blacks enjoy in this world is due to White. They give them religion, manners, science and political system
This is what they say about indians too. Agree ??

Hope mod deletes both (Bornubus & spikey360) of your mindless posts.
 

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Folks by agreeing to logic of "white man's burden" theory, you only trying to justify their colonial subjugation.!!! Thats wrong!!!

Those who point to SA example. Remember its recently they have ended apartheid, and it will more than half of a century for relations to be harmonized, and blacks to stand on their feet.
 

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Egyptian civilization should not be forgotten. That civilization came during those times, when most white Europeans were still living in caves!

Just because Native Africans had different lifestyle and not a copy of west, should we call them backward? Thats absurd.
 

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This is what they say about indians too. Agree ??

Hope mod deletes both (Bornubus & spikey360) of your mindless posts.
Nobody ask your opinion, if you have problem with my post just add me in your ignore list.


And I don't care about white's opinion about Indian, we don't need their recognition.

Indians wrote treaties on medicine, art, drama architecture etc when whites and European were living in caves.

So unlike a self hating, inferiority complex ridden Bharat ek Khaaj - i have superiority complex of my people.

Also, If white started persecuting Indians they have this nation to come back but where will Blacks go ?
 
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Egyptian civilization should not be forgotten. That civilization came during those times, when most white Europeans were still living in caves!

Just because Native Africans had different lifestyle and not a copy of west, should we call them backward? Thats absurd.
Can you prove Tutankhamen, greatest of Egyptian pharaos was a negro? The Egyptians were not blacks. Ask the Jews. They were subjugated by Egyptians, they know the colour of their subjugator, and the colour is certainly not black. Ancient paintings of Egyptians paint the skin as yellow, not black. The Egyptians were Caucasians, no blacks. Stop coming up with fantasies.
 

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This is what they say about indians too. Agree ??

Hope mod deletes both (Bornubus & spikey360) of your mindless posts.
Do you know how blacks became slaves in America?
Do you know that they were not kidnapped from their native land but sold by their own people?
The negros sold their poorer kith and kin to the whites for profit, who in those times, paid them fair and square and brought them over to their plantations for some laborious work.
 

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Do you know how blacks became slaves in America?
Do you know that they were not kidnapped from their native land but sold by their own people?
The negros sold their poorer kith and kin to the whites for profit, who in those times, paid them fair and square and brought them over to their plantations for some laborious work.
Are you saying entire africa was like that ? And if black sells and white buys, is it he problem of the black slaves ?? Thats a cruel logic. The so called white supremacists were the actual monsters, wherever they went, they destroyed culture, raped woman, killed men, converted children to an alien sin carrier religion, created slaves, be it india, africa or america (and may be Australia).
 

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Can you prove Tutankhamen, greatest of Egyptian pharaos was a negro? The Egyptians were not blacks. Ask the Jews. They were subjugated by Egyptians, they know the colour of their subjugator, and the colour is certainly not black. Ancient paintings of Egyptians paint the skin as yellow, not black. The Egyptians were Caucasians, no blacks. Stop coming up with fantasies.
define negro... Africans just like Indians had various color tones, hair styles.Egyptians were not white and were indegnous to Africa.
 

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Are you saying entire africa was like that ? And if black sells and white buys, is it he problem of the black slaves ?? Thats a cruel logic. The so called white supremacists were the actual monsters, wherever they went, they destroyed culture, raped woman, killed men, converted children to an alien sin carrier religion, created slaves, be it india, africa or america (and may be Australia).
You said it - cruel logic. Logic is truth. Cruel or not that is upon the viewer. Yes, the entire Africa was 'like that'. No one kidnapped blacks for slavery, they were bought from slave traders of Africa, who guess what - were all Negroes themselves.

Hahah! Destroyed their culture? Sure they did. Raped 'woman'? Ummm.. Don't think so, but I'll play along.. Yeah sure they did, why not? Converted to Christianity? Sure sure, that as well. So.. what's your point?
They did it everywhere, and every oppressed folk broke free of their colonial yoke except... you guessed it.. blacks.
 
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