Modi asks Indian space scientists to develop SAARC satellite

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There is no comparison, the debate evolves around the question if both nations should be spending large sums of.money on space and defence technolofy when half the population is poor and lacks basic facilities.

You are selective deaf and only hear what you what to hear.
better come prepared next time raising questions about authenticity of my claims.
lol and now a failed terrorist sate will tell us how to spend our money? sir paile aap ke girebaan me jhaanke. aap india ke saath nahi iraq aur somalia ke saath compare kare apne aap ko.

and when you visit pakistan next time, make sure to have a blast. you may never know it might be your last :D
 

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better come prepared next time raising questions about authenticity of my claims.
lol and now a failed terrorist sate will tell us how to spend our money? sir paile aap ke girebaan me jhaanke. aap india ke saath nahi iraq aur somalia ke saath compare kare apne aap ko.

and when you visit pakistan next time, make sure to have a blast. you may never know it might be your last :D
UK and many other developped countries questioned the ambitious Mars mission for the same reason. Is UK a failed country?

Indians are so fcuking delusional and selective blind to their own misery that they ignore hard facts like poverty, mal nutrition and basic development. Large sections of population score lower than Sub Saharan Africa on HDI, one of out of four children under the age of five is underfed, sixtyseven percent of massive 1.25 billion people survives on.less than 2 dollars a day. You are a failed state when it comes to these hard facts which affect hundreds of millions.
A boat carrying 153 Indian aslylum seekers is almost sinking in Australian waters as we speak. I wonder if Iraq and Somalia have desperate people packed like rats on a small.ship sailing for Australia to seek asylum.

Yahan par trolling karne se pehle apne graiban me jhanko mian aur zara bhi sharm hai to chullu bhar pani me doob marro.
 

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@Neo what is poverty in India have to do with Indian Space program ??
 
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@Neo ,
the point was a failed state comparing its missile launch with range of 60km to india's space program.
aap ko itni simple baat samaj nahi aati?

next time mummy ko bole complan me thoda zeher mila ke pilaye. :D
 
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@Neo what is poverty in India have to do with Indian Space program ??
Nothing at all mate, nothing at all. Just countering a troll post with the content of the video posted above. A pathetic attempt to derail the topic.
 
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@Neo ,
the point was a failed state comparing its missile launch with range of 60km to india's space program.
aap ko itni simple baat samaj nahi aati?

next time mummy ko bole complan me thoda zeher mila ke pilaye. :D
Stop trolling and stick to.the topic.
 
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you cant really expect a constructive statement from a baki national on indias achievements, can you?
The same can be said about a Bh indian. When was the last time you posted anything constructive about Pakistan?
 

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Can we desist from trolling here... please...
 

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Stop trolling and stick to.the topic.
talking about the topic, its really takes a big heart like that of india for deciding to launch a space satellite free of cost for saarc countries including pakistan. who have bled india though 1000 cuts. instead of appreciating such a welcome you guyz ranting about india so desperate to play as big B ?

if you guyz think like this than both countries can never resolve each others issues and threat perception will still prevail.
yaar kabi toh apne muh se meethe lafz nahi nikaal sake toh kadvi toh na nikaale.
 

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The success gives India a head start for building and lunching satellites at a cost one third of what US or Europe will manage... So there an economic spin off that India must harness... France, Japan, United Kingdom, Germany and USA can out source satellite construction to India...
 

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i feel providing with a free of cost satellite to pakistan throws the ball in there court. would be interesting to see whether they respond to this friendship gesture warmly or by another 26/11.
 

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talking about the topic, its really takes a big heart like that of india for deciding to launch a space satellite free of cost for saarc countries including pakistan. who have bled india though 1000 cuts. instead of appreciating such a welcome you guyz ranting about india so desperate to play as big B ?

if you guyz think like this than both countries can never resolve each others issues and threat perception will still prevail.
yaar kabi toh apne muh se meethe lafz nahi nikaal sake toh kadvi toh na nikaale.
It takes two to tango so cut the I am holier than thou crap.

We are capable of building our own small satellites.
 

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There is no comparison, the debate evolves around the question if both nations should be spending large sums of.money on space and defence technolofy when half the population is poor and lacks basic facilities.

You are selective deaf and only hear what you what to hear.
errr.... When did pakistan started spending on space research?
 

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The success gives India a head start for building and lunching satellites at a cost one third of what US or Europe will manage... So there an economic spin off that India must harness... France, Japan, United Kingdom, Germany and USA can out source satellite construction to India...
I think its already happening ISRO jas a growing list of foreign customers including some western nations. Future launches will be.dominated by China and India.
 

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Older article but still relevant.

For those foreigners and anti-Indians who are crying about supposed "waste of money" by India conducting such space programs rather then eliminating poverty, make sure to read this twice. Interesting facts highlighted in bold.

Indian rockets aim for space market
Mars bid showcases frugal but effective program


NEW DELHI – India's bid to become the first Asian nation to reach Mars sets a new benchmark for frugal interplanetary travel and puts it in a perfect position to grab more of the $300 billion global space market, experts say.

"Everyone wants to do low-cost missions nowadays," Indian science author Pallava Bagla said. "Don't underestimate it because it is a low-cost mission."

The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) staged a flawless launch on Nov. 5 of its Mars-bound spacecraft, loaded with a camera, an imaging spectrometer and a methane sensor to probe for life on the red planet.

The mission's price, a record-low $73 million, "has been an eye-opener" for the world, said Susmita Mohanty, co-founder and chief executive of Mumbai's Earth2Orbit, India's first private space enterprise startup.

That is not only because of the mission's meager price when compared with its U.S. counterpart, NASA's Maven, which is due to launch Nov. 18 and costs 10 more, but also because "the world was largely ignorant about the advanced nature of India's space program," Mohanty said.

India already ranks among the top six space-faring nations in technological capabilities, the others being the U.S., Russia, China, France and Japan, Mohanty said.

India's successful lunar orbiter mission in 2008 — Chandrayaan-1 — which cost $89 million, got the ball rolling in showing how to carry out space exploration on a minimal budget, and the Mars mission enhances its low-cost reputation.

"India's space program has always given the biggest bang for the buck," said Mohanty.

The secret to the Indian space program's trailblazing affordability — ISRO has an annual budget of $1.1 billion, one-seventeenth of NASA's — has been "indigenization of the program, which has helped keep costs low," ISRO spokesman Deviprasad Karnik said. "The launch vehicle — the PSLV (the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle), which is a workhorse — and spacecraft are Indian," Karnik said. Also, the pay scales of its scientists are far lower than in the West.

Western sanctions that were slapped on India after the nation staged a nuclear weapons test in 1974 gave a major thrust to the space program, and five years ago, the Indian rocket Chandrayaan-1 found signs of water on the moon.

India has come a long way since it began its space program half a century ago when it set up the first rocket launchpad in a coconut plantation in southern Kerala state. A church was the main office, the bishop's house was converted into a workshop and a cattle shed became the research lab.

Now 21 Indian satellites circle Earth, giving support to telephone operators, broadcast outlets, weather forecasters and providing remote education and health care.

ISRO also earns money from launches through its commercial arm, Antrix, and since 1999 has launched 35 satellites for other nations, including France, Italy, Germany, Belgium, South Korea, Indonesia, Argentina, Israel, Canada, Denmark, Japan and the Netherlands.

But it wants to do more to exploit the global space market, whose 2012 revenues totaled $304.31 billion, according to the Space Foundation, a U.S.-based advocacy and research group, the latest figure available.

Indian ingenuity in cutting costs and "frugal engineering" were on display with the Mangalyaan (Hindi for "Mars craft") mission.

Lacking a rocket large enough to fire the satellite directly out of Earth's atmosphere, ISRO had to rely on the famed Indian skill of "jugaad" — creating a cheap alternative solution.

Instead of flying directly to Mars, the 350-ton vehicle will orbit Earth for nearly a month, building up the speed to "slingshot" its way out of Earth's gravitational pull to embark on its 400-million-km journey.

Even without a major scientific discovery from the mission, getting a spacecraft into orbit around Mars would highlight Indian technology.

"India is sitting on a space gold mine. Indian companies can leverage the impressive portfolio of space products and services that ISRO has developed," said Mohanty.

Satellite launch industry revenues totaled $2.2 billion in 2012, while worldwide satellite industry revenues were $189 billion, according to the U.S. Satellite Industry Association.

With foreign space agencies increasingly looking to outsource space missions to rein in spending, ISRO could compete for multibillion-dollar contracts, experts say.


Success of the Mars mission is by no means assured, as recent attempts by both China and Japan have failed.

ISRO Chairman Koppillil Radhakrishnan said before the launch that he was unfazed at the mission's complexity. "If it is a failure, then learn. Failure is a steppingstone for success."
 

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