Modernisation of Indian Army Infantry

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  1. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    If we modernize training of infantry with evolving technology then only Indian infantry gear will improve, for example we have rails on every INSAS 1B1 but no red dot for regular infantry in last 20 years or so even its being mass produce locally now.

    Mordenising does not meant merely copying foreign origin, This includes experienced we gained during our conflicts both conventional and unconventional fronts, for example two Airforce special force men lost their lives due to head-shots ( Forehead ) while wearing new Kevlar helmets they used to wear patkas, In past Patkas saved many lives in very similar situations.

     
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  2. Kunal Biswas

    Kunal Biswas Member of the Year 2011 Moderator

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    Why the army's changed mindset on indigenous technology is a relief | India Today Insight

    Source : https://www.indiatoday.in/india-tod...ous-technology-is-a-relief-1611391-2019-10-21
     
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  3. WolfPack86

    WolfPack86 Senior Member Senior Member

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    I want Indian Army to accept Arjun tanks, Insas Mk1C rifles, OFB 7.62x51 mm rifles and helicopters.
     
  4. Noname34

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    No thanks, i want these garbage PSUs sold off and their idiotic workforce kicked out, while the paperweight made by them is melted and sold for scrap.

    Why is it that every time the talk of indegenisation happens the arguments almost always revolve around these incompetent DPSUs which kill soldiers with impunity and amost never around the excellent startup culture being nurtured in the private sector which has started to put some good stuff in the market.

    Take an example of the optic made by the BEL chutiyas.
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    This has to be some form of mental disorder, to have those big ass sights which will be absolutely laughed out off any competition held by any organisation that calls itself an armed outfit.

    On the other hand here is what TONBO has to say on the matter.


    The problem is as clear as day here.

    The only thing these overgrown employment schemes(thats what DPSUs are) gives is that it allows some indians to derive some form of illogical pride from stuffing this hot garbage down the throat of the average soldier. Wrong(and dangerous as people depend on these equipments to save lives) mentality i'd say.
     
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  5. ezsasa

    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    In the specific example, what’s the point in blaming DPSU when the RFI by IA wanted 1 kg weight...
     
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  6. Noname34

    Noname34 Regular Member

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    You sure?
    In that case i take it back, the blame lies on those who made the parameters then.

    Can you quote the RFI please, i am curious as to what gives when they make such absurd choices.
     
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    I think RFI is available is indianarmy website..
     
  8. Noname34

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    Yep you are right, thanks for correcting me

    Here is the RFI for those who are wondering.
    https://indianarmy.nic.in/Site/FormTemplete/RFIView.aspx?MnId=ZksK1ySUqv8H7qlI5Z4Zxg==

    Weight mentioned is 1kg or less.
    Goodness what were they thinking.

    I am curious whether TONBO submitted their sight or not and if they did why weren't they selected given the low weight and enhanced capability of their product.
     
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    What's worse is they don't have any vision, for anything! Every R&D organisation has some success & failures, but Indian Army's capability to ignore the ones with actual potential is astonishing.

    Any tech that needed temporary backing by them for eventual improvement, was shat on. But what to they buy in hundreds of thousands? The one that everybody unanimously agrees to be a refined, weapons-grade pure piece of crap, the INSAS rifle.
    Even that was completely static, other than ironing out of some teething issues. All over its production for 15 years, they didn't ask for a single feature to be inserted. Not p-rails, not adjustable buttstock, not ergonomic handguards, not scopes, not even a suppressor... let alone actual mechanism upgrades!
     
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  12. Aniruddha Mulay

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    Army's mindset is yet to change. Theier love affair with imported maal has still not decreased one bit.
     
  13. Gautam Sarkar

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    US is pitching India to be a part of the new rifle program(LSAT) and adopt the 6.8 mm round as standard. The are pushing for it under the DTTI.
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  14. Gautam Sarkar

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  15. MIDKNIGHT FENERIR-00

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    Yes US Army is Adopting new 6.8x44mm and 8.7x70mm Intermediate Round for there Weapons. 6.8x44mm and 8.7x70mm will be the new NATO Standard Round which will replace 5.56, 7.62mm and 12.7mm Rounds.




     
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    US Army is also replacing there Pistols as Well. SIG SAUER is the Primary Contractor for this new Pistol. This New Pistol can use multiple types of Cartridge.


     
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  17. abingdonboy

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    Lol, DRDO has already pre-empted this IA about-face

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  18. Chinmoy

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    I thought it was by OFB. But whoever did it, it is commendable. In long run, whether we go towards the Grendel round or not, but we should not run around like headless chicken in matter of platform.
     
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    eagerly waiting for first pics of Indian Army Jawans with SIG 716G2
     
  20. bhramos

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    better use plastic clips.................................
     
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