Maoists kill 2 Senior Congress Leaders in Chattisgarh

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first we should stop exploitation of natural resources for billions of dollars and benefited by few netas and babus.They should first understand if they want to save for hundreds of their coming generation but what is the use if they destroy the nature resulting in destruction of earth .Even here in tn they are mining all hills and in 20 years children will lakes and mountains only in pics or paintings
 

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@Ray @Singh @Yusuf @VIP @LurkerBaba

The top rank and file of the Maoist cadre is from AP.Kataka Sudarshan planned this attack and executed.I think a brigade of Maos have participated in this attack
 
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The aim of the Maoist is to overthrow the democratically elected Govt and replace it with a totalitarian Maoist regime.

It is obvious that this is not acceptable.

The areas where Maoists are active are areas where there are the tribal rights and the Govt has respected the same and hence there has been very little development. The only constructive activity there has been of the Christian missionaries who have worked amongst them to give them some modernity through education and basic health care. It goes without saying that the activities were not altruistic since conversion is a part of the mission that has been ordained by their Faith.

Conversion is mandated in the scriptures of the Abrahamic religions and so it is not incorrect to do so. But then wily nily, they play a sinister role that makes them act not only as agents of their God, but also as sinister tools of neocolonialism giving credence to Bishop Desmond Tutu's famous last words -"When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said, 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land."

With liberalisation, the NGOs have also been active in a big way. I saw NewsX yesterday and there was this debate on the Maoist attack on the Congress leaders' convoy. The ex RAW spokesman said that these NGOs were being sustained by massive influx of foreign funds. It is no rocket science that though internationally all laud India's growth, they are wary of India becoming another challenge like China. The only way to keep this from happening is to ensure that the funds accrued by India through this growth is also. spent on unproductive activities as equipping of the military, police and such like. This can be achieved if there is a threat within and without the country. Therefore, keeping these threats active is in the interest of those who do not wish India to have a robust economy and progress that can itself prove to the foreign interests at work.

If one observes the insurgency areas, it will be noticed that the Church has been active in such areas. In the NE insurgency the activities of the Baptist Church is no secret. In fact, it is this Church that sowed the idea that the Nagas had no link with the Hindus or Muslim of India and were a separate ethnically and culturally. Dr. Ashikho Dailio Mao in his book Nagas: Problem and Conflict has written "Culturally Naga Hills became a colony of American evangelism".The role of Rev Micheal Scott in foisting Phizo is well documented. It is interesting to note that ever since India has 'aligned' with the US, these insurgencies have waned. The few that exist are funded and equipped by the Chinese through proxies and the rationale for this requires no elaboration.

The Mizo National Front came into existence on October 22, 1961, with the declared objectives of complete political independence for greater Mizoram, improving the socio-economic condition of the Mizos, and promoting/safeguarding Christianity. The role of the Presbyterian Church and the Baptists cannot be ignored. It may be noted thaty ccording to the 2001 Census, there were 31,562 Hindus in Mizoram. Out of this, 26,448 were non-indigenous and 5,114 were indigenous tribal. Earlier there were significant Hindu population among the Reang(Bru) communities, but after the ethnic riots of 1990s, most of them migrated to Tripura and Assam (According to the 1991 Census, 90% of all indigenous Hindus of Mizoram were Reang. Hindu population among the Mizo tribe is negligible, with only 2,616 Hindus out of a population of 646,117 (0.40%). A total of 1,666 Hindus from the Reang community remained in Mizoram at the time of 2001 Census.

In this connection, this is an interesting article

NE Insurgency: The Religious Dimension
NE Insurgency: The Religious Dimension » Indian Defence Review

It indicates how the tribal were easy picking to foment divisions, conveniently giving short shrift to the concept of India being a multi ethnic, muliti religion, multi lingual entity, belonging to all.

All area aware of the activities of the Church (meaning foreign powers) and NGOs funded with foreign funds in the tribal belts of Jharkand, Bengal, MP, Chattisgarh, AP, Gadracholi etc and hence not being elaborated on.

Having said that, it is not that the Govt is beyond criticism.

In the new found manna of industrialisation, GDP, insular growth and other fancy terms that conveniently forgets the social cost and gives recognition to that (social cost) through ill conceived populist policies that come to bought and breds more corruption and govt high handedness. the Govt has sold itself to their quest of opening up the economic spoils to the selected few and the selected social strata.

In the bargain, Maoism and Naxalism finds fertile soil to flourish, duly assisted by the vested interests that are pursuing their own agenda to keep India on the boil and hence not being a challenge to their supremacy!
 
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@Ray the Maoists from AP are against Christianity as policy of opposition against organized religion
 
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@Ray @Singh @Yusuf @VIP @LurkerBaba

The top rank and file of the Maoist cadre is from AP.Kataka Sudarshan planned this attack and executed.I think a brigade of Maos have participated in this attack
A brigade is ~5,000 to ~10,000 people. A platoon is ~50 people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platoon


@Ray the Maoists from AP are against Christianity as policy of opposition against organized religion
What you are saying is correct, and what @Ray Sir's post says is correct about NE.
 
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@Ray @Singh @Yusuf @VIP @LurkerBaba

The top rank and file of the Maoist cadre is from AP.Kataka Sudarshan planned this attack and executed.I think a brigade of Maos have participated in this attack
There are many theories doing the round.

One is not aware as to what were the security steps taken to protect the convoy along the route and if the route was sanitised with the Route Opening drill.

It is said it was done. However, when Route or Road Opening is done, one is to leave behind picquets to ensure that the route continues to remain sanitised. Was it done? Further, the details of the Chatttisgarh Police strength one learns is not adequate and there is a huge shortfall. If so, the Road Opening will always be shoddy.

In large convoys as these, there has to be gaps between the vehicles so that all are not caught up in the ambush. Also, there has to be security elements in separate vehicles in front, the middle and at the end. This is done so that in case, one set of security personnel are caught in the ambush, the others are free to react.

I wonder if it could be a Brigade of Maoists because that would be too large a body for such a relatively small operation for such a large body to execute.
 
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On religon and Maoists, here is an article worth a dekko

The Fascinating Case Of Religious Maoists In Orissa : Especially Maoists Who Find Only One Religion Evil And All Others Worth Protecting[

As I had proposed in my earlier post on the Kandhmal incident in Orissa, India, after long speculation in the media about the stunning silence of the Maoists about their "role in the assassination of Laxmananda Saraswati", one week after the assassination suddenly a statement has appeared out of thin air – supposedly coming from the Maoists : The Central Committee of the Communist Party of India-Maoist (?) declares "The Sangh Parivar leaders like Praveen Togadia have been trying to divert the people by uttering lies that it is not the Maoists but Christian organizations that had carried out the attack on the VHP leader"¦Saraswati was a rabid anti-Christian ideologue and persecutor of innocent Christians who was responsible for the burning down of over 400 churches in Kandhamal district alone." This "Maoist" statement warned the VHP of "more such punishments if it continued violence against religious minorities in the country" and called for a ban on groups linked to the Sangh Parivar, such as the VHP, its youth wing Bajrang Dal, right-wing Hindu political party Shiv Sena and the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP). This is a most unusual Maoist group indeed! A Maoist group that finds only one particular religion as the "persecutor", finds all "Christians" innocent, deplores "rabid anti-Christianism", and most significantly is absolutely against "burning down Churches" – and still calls itself "Maoist" – unbelievable!

The statement which uncannily resembles standard Marxist harangue from the Left leaning section of the Thaparite School of Indian History, and those that daily shout about the "danger of Hindu Right Wing" in mainstream Indian politics, became necessary as the involvement of "real" Maoists became suspect, and the Government was probably quite desperate. A section of the "well-wisher"s of the Christian leadership might also have thought that it was important to reinforce the arrow of suspicion towards the Maoists. This only shows that the statement originated from people who have never seriously studied or observed Maoist strategic thinking and their ideological framework. Even if local "Maoists" were involved, it is now more obvious that it was far from actual Maoism. For most authentic Maoist groups in India and abroad, their ideology requires them to treat all religions as "opiates of the people" – the Indian Maoists have traditionally been in fact more "Maoist" than Mao himself. In certain parts of the world, there have been attempts from within the Christian groups to align with radical movements – the radical Liberation Theology in the Latin American nations for example. But Church authorities have moved quickly enough to expel these elements whom they thought were getting too close to Communism.

What could have really happened? There are three possible scenarios :

(1) The major Maoist recruits could have initially come from the minority Panas group from which also a large number of conversions into Christianity took place. But the clan ties were stronger than both Maoism or Christianity and hence when it became crucial for the Panas community to try and regain their Scheduled status to get various State benefits [which they lost under the Indian constitution as in general just like the Majority caste Hindus or Muslims, for Christians too, reservation is not available based on religion, and these religions are not considered to be so "backward" as to need reservation] the entire community pitched in and the "Maoist" clan brothers helped their non-Maoist brothers out.

(2) The Maoists have had a deal with suppliers of arms and ammunition, either from the Jihadi networks or from other foreign religious movements which have promised or delivered sophisticated arms and ammunition, in return for collaboration in elimination of their common threat – the Hindu organizations in the state. The dense forest cover allows the real identity of these "Maoists" and their alliances to be hidden.

(3) Or what could be most dangerous, that those who are operating in the guise of Maoists are no Maoists at all but simply an extension of various foreign interests. If a section of the Church has played into this, it will be most unfortunate, as I don't think they realize the real processes of change in the "Hindu" attitude in India.

Suppose now a serious military campaign is unleashed against the Maoists whose main strategy has always been to use "inaccessibility of terrain" to "live like fish among the water of people" and expand fluid "base areas", and have always failed in the face of determined "encirclement campaigns", so that the Maoists face extinction in the state. My prediction is that there will be an immediate huge media campaign to denounce the "persecution of Christians in the name of tackling Maoist extremists". But having started this game now, whoever wished well for the Christians did a great disservice to Christianity – first it has associated Christians with Maoist Communists, and second, they in reality will have no defence in case a strong Indian government at the centre decides to liquidate the Maoist threat forever, thereby also eliminating those the well-wishers are lobbying for.

On August 30 the Delhi based private news channel NDTV 24X7 quoted "unnamed government sources" as saying that their assessment was that Christians had no role in the killing of Saraswati, and that the probe was leading to Maoist culprits. I find it highly amusing that both bloggers as well as Indian media usually reports this statement from NDTV, and the Christian organizations reports of an "estimated 50,000 Christians" living in the jungles abandoning their homes in fear of attacks, while they remain completely silent that this same channel also showed a documentary, where they also showed violent attacks on "Hindu" tribals, destruction of their villages, and their women and children hiding out in open jungle to escape from fear of attacks by "Christians". The documentary makers tried their best not to appear "pro-Hindu", which implies that the evidence of attacks on Hindu villagers were too numerous to ignore completely and liable to show up NDTV as completely biased later on if not at least partially represented.

Wherever I have gone in India, I have almost always observed genuine respect and tolerance for Christians by Hindus – but I do not think that Christians in the West would show the same tolerance towards the Hindus if the Hindus practised items of their culture that the Christian West thought obnoxious [the issue of public slaughter of cows for festivals and eating beef nad hence also the related issue of illegal beef trade- which is not favoured by the Hindu tribals] or react most favourably to disparagement of Christian practices and beliefs by the Hindus. The role of Christian missionaries in education and healthcare in India is acknowledged by the Hindus with great warmth and genuine gratitude. But I think the modern Christian missions in India have to think carefully before they get involved in the fractures of Indian society. Many Hindus celebrate Christmas as their own festival, and many of the Bhakti sects of Hinduism in India have no problem in displaying Jesus as a manifestation of their "supreme lord". The stereotypical portrayal of the Christian Missionary as a "benevolent father" was and continues to be common in popular movies. I have never seen a similar religious accommodation of the "Hindu" within Christianity – where typically the best representation of the Hindu is that of a "poor ignorant bewildered fallen soul" "mired in darkness" and needing "salvation".

This is a misunderstanding between Hindus and Christians, and is being exploited by forces that have their own designs on controlling India. A strong government that was determined in liquidating Maoism could actually ultimately prove beneficial for the image of Christianity in India, as otherwise these sort of media campaigns will only ultimately consolidate the so much "feared" "Hindu Right".

The fascinating case of religious Maoists in Orissa : especially Maoists who find only one religion evil and all others worth protecting | Dikgaj's Weblog

I would say the view is that of the author!

A genuine Communist or a Maoist, should actually spurn religion!
 
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It maybe noted that all religions are good.

It is the practitioners who subvert the spiritual issue to serve their temporal ambitions!
 

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@Ray sir If they remove the Patel-Patwari system in Chattisgarh naxalism will get slashed by half
You sentiments are reflected in this article:

My housekeeper had to apply for pension from her dead husband's employer, a bank. The bank wanted a tehsildar's certificate with details of her dependent children. Someone at the bank introduced her to a tout who first wanted Rs 3,500, then Rs 7,000. After many visits, the certificate was procured. The bank should have had full records about the deceased husband, but wanted more paper. By asking for a certificate, the bank created touts and bribes for the tehsildar.

How the leaks get bigger

It is an all India phenomenon.
 
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Interesting, Ray. I remember you screaming about human rights every time China puts down a riot in Xinjiang or Tibet - even those that result in dozens of killed and injured. Why are you calling for a harsh response now?

Oh, and let's not forget your constant calls for India to back a Tibetan or Xinjiang insurgency. It seems your position is that terrorists in your own country should be ruthlessly stamped out, while they should be encouraged elsewhere? What a lovely attitude.
I don't scream or howl.

It appears that you are creaming over! ;)

The problem with China putting down people in Xinjiang and Tibet is that there is no discussion permitted in China and there are no human rights organisation either. In India, it is the opposite. Everyone and every human rights organisation is a khalifa by itself!

That is the difference.

In India, the human rights are a dime to a dozen and quite a few are not really concerned with human rights. They are concerned in remaining in the limelight on TV shows and in the print media so that they can get the foreign funds to feather their own nest with only verbiage in the name of Human rights.

And as I said, there is no human rights organisations in China and no discussion and instead there is unchallenged repression. And on the other hand in India there is s surfeit of Human Rights organisation in India and a large majority flush with foreign funds, keeping the Govt on their toes and over cautious!

That is the difference.
 
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Does any confirm news of MoD cleared of Deploying 6 units of CRPF Cobra Team in Chattisgarh ..

Obtained this news from Local News Paper
 

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What did people expect? :frusty:

Once I heard of the incident, I told my brother that Congress would have been over-confident and not asked BJP for CRPF security and got 20 cops with SIG pistols. Few hours later, ToI morning paper states Congress asked for only 30 cops for a 25 vehicle convoy containing 100+ people in MAOIST-INFESTED territory.

Politicians, they're so predictable :facepalm:

Damn it, will Congress reputation have gone down if they had asked BJP government for CRPF? :mad:

And the darned NDTV accuses CRPF of not providing adequate protection when they weren't even there :facepalm:
 

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Re: Chattisgarh- Major naxal hit, Congress leaders feared dead or inju

Sir ..is the Above news true
 

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@Ray sir If they remove the Patel-Patwari system in Chattisgarh naxalism will get slashed by half
And what should they do in West Bengal to remove Maoist problem ?? A break dance from Mamat Bannergi i guess.
 
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The Maoist insurgency in Bengal is practically non existent now!
 

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Now its time to use army ....:mad:
Not required.

Fill the vacancies of the para military and police with retired Army personnel at the appropriate rank and also have the paramilitary and police trained by Army personnel.

India expects every man to do his duty once he is trained and equipped for the task.

Sadly, the Ministers and Bureaucrats do not understand and feel that putting a rifle in the hand means the policeman is highly trained!.
 

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NIA investigation ? A blackmailing tool of Congress is entering in Chhattisgarh too ?
 

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Ambush propels Jogi to frontline
RASHEED KIDWAI

May 26: Former chief minister Ajit Jogi appears to have emerged the frontrunner to lead the Congress in election-bound Chhattisgarh as the party, struggling to cope with the sudden void at the top, sought to put yesterday's ambush behind.

Junior Union minister Charan Das Mahant also seems to be a contender in the drastically altered power equations in the absence of state unit chief Nand Kumar Patel and key tribal leader Mahendra Karma.

Both Karma — who began his political career as a CPI activist before becoming an MP and a state minister — and Patel died in the Bastar ambush that also left 83-year-old party veteran Vidya Charan Shukla critically injured.

An emotional Jogi sobbed as he spoke to The Telegraph today. "I lost power nine years ago," he said. "Now destiny wants me to restore the Congress's lost glory."

Jogi had become chief minister in 2000 when Chhattisgarh was carved out of Madhya Pradesh. In 2004, he met with a near-fatal accident that left him wheelchair-bound.

But the former civil servant celebrated his 67th birthday on April 29, standing erect, though briefly, using a robotic device, an import from New Zealand.

In the faction-riven Chhattisgarh Congress, Jogi is considered a controversial figure. A number of powerful leaders, including Shukla, Mahant, AICC treasurer Motilal Vora, and the now slain Karma and Patel, were seen as hostile to him.

Both Shukla and Vora, old warhorses, constantly campaigned at the Congress's Delhi durbar to keep Jogi out. But the attack has changed the power equations drastically.

Patel had been heading the Chhattisgarh Congress for the past year and a half. His tenure had enthused the rank and file and even impressed Rahul Gandhi when the Congress vice-president visited the state.

He also enjoyed a clean image and kept his distance from the Raman Singh-led BJP regime. Earlier this month, Patel's younger son Umesh had got married in Raipur but the list of invitees did not include the chief minister.

Informed sources said Patel was not being discourteous but there had been whispers that many state Congress leaders had a tacit understanding with the ruling party.

Senior Congress leaders in Raipur and Delhi say Mahant's image and his current job as Union minister of state for agriculture and food processing could come in the way of an immediate plunge into state politics that would require round-the-clock presence.

The 57-year-old has many backers, including AICC general secretary Digvijaya Singh, but some leaders think he is a bit too "smart".

Some senior AICC functionaries regretted their move to focus on Bastar in the run-up to the Assembly elections barely six months away. Apparently it was Karma — a former leader of the Opposition — who had insisted on it to wrest the bulk of the 12 seats from the region where the Congress had won only one in 2008. Even Karma, one of the most influential tribal leaders in the state, had lost.

The effort to build a strong presence in the "Red Zone" prompted the "parivartan (change) rally".
 

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