Man threatens to blow up plane if passengers do not accept islam

[maomao]

@maomao,

My point was that at one point in the past it was progressive, and I am afraid, I do believe that.

Yeah, even my point is that you can keep believing in BS!

OT: Why study or work in US when Cuba is better (sorry mother Russia is not anymore commie)?

 

[pmaitra]

Yeah, even my point is that you can keep believing in BS!

OT: Why study or work in US when Cuba is better (sorry mother Russia is not anymore commie)?

I am more than pleased to oblige in believing the truth, that is why I intercede to bring the blind sheep onto the right path.

Do read the Mahabharata, learn something, and discuss - it will only bring you out of darkness.

Good luck bud! :thumb:

 

[maomao]

I am more than pleased to oblige in believing the truth, that is why I intercede to bring the blind sheep onto the right path.

Do read the Mahabharata, learn something, and discuss - it will only bring you out of darkness.

Good luck bud! :thumb:

If believing in islam and thinking of it as some type of a 'progressive 'faith makes me a sheep with eyes, then I prefer being Blind! You believing some concocted lie, does not make it Truth!

You don't even know the difference between Mahabharta and Bhagwat Gita....and you have been preaching me, you need to learn a lot first!

Thanks for your kind wishes!

I prefer darkness than the light of islam....I chose this long back!

 

[pmaitra]

If believing in islam and thinking of it as some type of a 'progressive 'faith makes me a sheep with eyes, then I prefer being Blind! You believing some concocted lie, does not make it Truth!

IYou don't even know the difference between Mahabharta and Bhagwat Gita....and you have been preaching me!

Thanks for your kind wishes!

I prefer darkness than the light of islam....I chose this long back!

In this context, me quoting from Gita, is as good as quoting from Mahabharata.

Only a commie can enlighten you about true Hinduism. Bow before me.

 

[Tronic]

Stay there then!! Oooppppppssss they have already ethnically cleansed Kashmir and Pakistan off Hindus

Evils of divide and rule, and the dirty subcontinental mindset. Even Indian Punjab was ethnically cleansed of Muslims, so what makes us (the Indian Punjabis) any better than them? It's a blot on history.

(I know you are a Sikh -- that means you are next -- when they are done with Hindu India)!!

lool.. You kidding me?? We were actually the first in line, and we ended up finishing them (the bigoted Islamic rulers) first. :taunt1: Today, there is no strong Muslim empire, no large Muslim armies, I'm suppose to be scared of what? Check out the history of my neighbourhood first.

Boss, don't confuse yourself, you visit a place like pakistan or Somaila, you will get respect nothing special about it, they have to respect you as "TouRista" or else they may have to face humiliation themselves,

Boss, only you told me to 'visit' places to gauge their attitude, so my response was only to your own advice.

try staying / living with those people you will get to know the reality and all your delusions will get sorted out! (Don't forget Islam majority areas have already been cleansed with Hindus Blood be it Kashmir or pakistan....what more proof you need? India will be next)

Try asking a pakistani Hindu how respectful is Islam towards them!

I can't live in those areas only because of one reason and one reason alone. They are economically disastrous and backward places to live. Any people who worry about cleansing this or that fall in an economic abyss; be it Kashmir or Pakistan. You keep up trying to ape this pathetic sillyness and India will indeed be next.

Nobody is demonizing anyone....demon lies inside the these people and when the time is ripe this demon strikes!

Demon lies inside these people? lol! As if we are pure soothing souls, no demons lie inside us...

As per your assertion that islam is not a correct path, let me tell you Islam has never been the / even 'a' correct path! The day so called 'prophet' murdered an innocent for the lust of power -- Islam become a horror with the most bigoted theology mankind has ever seen! And Indian secularism has been fueling, feeding and funding this horror even after what it has faced historically for past 1400 years and 1947 being the icing on the cake!

Bowing yourself does not satisfy it's lust only makes you look weak and ready to be plundered!

No wonder you can never prove that Islam is not the right religion, and end up getting frustrated and venting here. If you want to learn why Islam is not the correct path, than first learn to accept Muhammad as the true prophet, the Quran as the true holy book (as well as all other religions); educate yourself from them, and than decide what religion is right, what is wrong. Where there is goodness, where there isn't. Forget the Prophet Muhammad, I can easily argue that the Quran and Hadiths are not even Muhammad's words and actions, and there is little logic that a Muslim can bring fourth to prove me wrong. They are the work of the Rashidun Caliphate and successor states writing their state ideology in a book to consolidate their own power.

Anyways, my point was not just against Islam. My assertion was that I do not think that any other religious paths are wholly correct but my own.

 

[civfanatic]

There is no doubt that Islam was quite progressive and egalitarian when it first emerged, especially by the standards of the time. There was actually more religious tolerance in Islamic states of the time than in Europe; just compare the Christians and Muslims during the Crusades, and their respective treatment of religious minorities. Another example would be the mass exodus of Jews from Spain to the Ottoman Empire following the Spanish Inquisition. Istanbul had one of the largest Jewish communities in the world, with over 30,000 Jews, and they suffered no religious persecution.

Islam today is no doubt regressive and backwards, but historically this was not always true. The Islamic World and the West have literally switched spots over the past 500 years, with the West abandoning the blind religious dogma of the Dark Ages and embracing science and reason thanks to the Renaissance, while the opposite happened in the Islamic World.

 

[maomao]

^^^^^^ Ok fine, Muhammad is the true and last prophet....now can I say Islam is not the correct path......Still I say try living with these people and you will know the truth.....as per your assertion that Sikhs Destroyed Islam in India is partially correct!

My Pathetic silliness are facts which you keep dening like pakis!

 

[maomao]

In this context, me quoting from Gita, is as good as quoting from Mahabharata.

Only a commie can enlighten you about true Hinduism. Bow before me.

Yeah, right......according you Gita equals to Mahabharat and that makes you a preacher!

No I will not bow before a commie!! Never! :taunt1:

 

[Tronic]

^^^^^^ Ok fine, Muhammad is the true and last prophet....now can I say Islam is not the correct path......Still I say try living with these people and you will know the truth.....as per your assertion that Sikhs Destroyed Islam in India is partially correct!

My Pathetic silliness are facts which you keep dening like pakis!

Since when have rants started equaling facts. Islam is evil, and Muslims will just believe that? Truth is, you don't even know head or tail on how to tell a Muslim that he's wrong on his face. Infact, it is ill-informed chaps like you which embolden those Islamist fcukjobs by responding to their "dawahs" with completely irrelevant rants, which reinforces their fcked up belief of evil ignorant non-believers turning away from Islam for no good reason. Beat them logically, and they will begin to question themselves. Rant away, and they will think they won.

 

[pmaitra]

Yeah, right......according you Gita equals to Mahabharat and that makes you a preacher!

You couldn't have interpreted it any other way. Sorry I was optimistic I could enlighten you. Now I know, it's not possible.

 

[maomao]

You couldn't have interpreted it any other way. Sorry I was optimistic I could enlighten you. Now I know, it's not possible.

Great you realized sooner! However, an enlightened preacher never fails.....you did!

 

[blank_quest]

Best video to see and think about it...

 

[blank_quest]

^^"Time make more converts than the Reason" .

 

[maomao]

Since when have rants started equaling facts. Islam is evil, and Muslims will just believe that? Truth is, you don't even know head or tail on how to tell a Muslim that he's wrong on his face. Infact, it is ill-informed chaps like you which embolden those Islamist fcukjobs by responding to their "dawahs" with completely irrelevant rants, which reinforces their fcked up belief of evil ignorant non-believers turning away from Islam for no good reason. Beat them logically, and they will begin to question themselves. Rant away, and they will think they won.

Yes, I agree I'm no expert in Islam and I prompt so called progressive people of religion of peace towards 'Dawah'......However, I believe that 'Chaps' like you with superior logical abilities and understanding of islam who are experts have been doing a great job at controlling 'Islamist fcukjobs' from not spreading 'Dawah...... yada yada....If you believe the shyt you are writing then be my guest!

I'm yet to face an islamist whom I've not pissed and trust me he never felt like a victor, rather behaved like a sour loser; however you may be a curious case of logical mammoth, however you need not know islam inside out, just keep asking questions and these islamists will get pissed, abuse you and run away that's the reality and your logical rants will only bolster their superiority! islam is itself illogical and the best arguments these people give are on the lines of Zakir Naik (i.e....hit your religion than explain theirs, reverse the argument and they get pissed......as in reality islam is vile and flawed)!!

 

[Mad Indian]

Muslims believe that Koran is the word of god and should be followed without question. and Koran asks for killing of kaffirs in several places. and Muslims who don't accept Koran without a question are not considered as Muslims by the mainstream Muslims who are about 95%(I am being conservative in this estimate). so yeah common logic dictates that Islam is a pretty ----ed up religion.


Only people who have trouble understanding this is of course those who don't have a functional frontal and pre frontal lobes of the brain(or simply the leftists).


but hey, if its any consolation, I would rather live in a Islamic world than in a commie world. I mean come on some freedom is better than no freedom at all right. so Islam is not the worst thing that could have happened on earth:thumb:

and please go easy on the Christians for crusades. it was only a reactionary movement against the usual peaceful raids by the peaceful religious members on the Christian borders that forced the Christians to call for a holy war. Muslims bringing up crusades to show that other religions are also as bad as theirs is actually a pathetic attempt at an equal equal. But even then why the ---- should we care what Christians were? now they are much saner than Muslims or Hindus. on the other hand Islam remains the same or worse than what it was before. so lets just stick with the present shall we? its so nice to serve leftists tolling to defend Islam saying it was enlighten before. probably they have no problem to be killed by " their once a peaceful/tolerant " religion. but sane ones here are not thing any chances.

 

[LurkerBaba]

Beat them logically, and they will begin to question themselves. Rant away, and they will think they won.

Well, it depends on whom you're talking with. If he/she is a liberal person to begin with then it might be successful (I've tried this out and it worked )

But all logic will fail in-front of an orthodox guy

 

[Cliff@sea]

I have to say some people here have really helped my understanding of the phrase "playing like a Broken Record"

 

[Drona]

Those are two different arguments. Are suicide attacks a threat or only suicide attacks by religious fundamentalists?

Don't be naive , ask the same question other way around, " Which kind of suicide attacks took place because their religion says so ? and for the gain in afterlife ? The case of LTTE, IRA and Japanese Kamikaze attacks are limited to certain cause and time, and not comparable to this extreme insanity, they

While the IRA in Northern Ireland chose to kidnap people, strap them with bombs, and forcefully have them drive up to their target before detonating.

Technically that is not suicide attack ! In Islamic terror , they are taught to do so because they are Muslims and its voluntarily too.

So you are bringing fourth two different arguments and almagating them into one. Yes, other fundamentalists, religious or not, do use suicide bombers, as history has shown, and they have used them far more effectively, and in much greater numbers than your religious extremists.

My religious extremism starts with becoming Sikular and then ends with morning tea and news paper. it is also a mental condition !

 

[Tshering22]

There's been an oflate rise of such activities that result in hijack scares which will make it difficult for DGCA to filter out a real case if shyte hits the fan.

I think there ought to be stronger rules and such clowns should be made examples of publicly so that the next idiot planning to get attention learns it.

 

[Yusuf]

Found this

Today, Islam is the most misunderstood religion in the face of the earth. Let me tell you a clear explanation of the ,(Surah Al Tawbah ,Chapter- 9 ,Verse -5)

Which says as follows:-
"So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."(Quran 9:5)

One of the famous critics of India, Arun shoury, He wrote a Book called
"World of Fatwa" and he quotes the Quran from: SURAH Al TAWBA Chapter:- 9 ,verse number:- 5 and says as below:-

In his book ,it says as follows
{Quran says : "Wherever you find a kaafir *(Hindu),You kill him, You wait for him in every stead before"}

*Kaafir means an "Unbeliever" but inorder to provoke them he writes as Hindus.

Imagine If a innocent Hindu reads his book they will believe what he said in his book and immediately there would be a reaction then the person would start going against Islam, The problem is that selected few people for there own motives because of there writings and quote the same verse, Which is quote by the Orientalists and after quoting "verse number 5", He jumps to "verse number -7" Directly,

Any intelligent person can understand why he skipped one verse , "Verse number -6" has the key to reply to what he had quoted from "verse 5"
Infact if you read the Surah tawbah the first two verses talks about the Peace treaty between the Muslims and the mushriks of Makkah ,This peace Treaty was unilaterally broken by the mushriks of Makkah ,By the time, Almighty God reaches the verse number -5,He says in the battlefield "Wherever you find your enemy (Kaafir means the unbeliever, The enemy) you kill him", IT IS IN THE BATTLEFIELD
If anyone takes out of contest, It would sound absurd,

Imagine a few decades earlier, There was a war between USA and Vietnam and if the army general of USA tells the American soldiers in the battlefield "My soldiers don't be scared where ever you find a Vietnamese, You kill him"-It is said to boost up the soldiers, but if today someone quotes that the Army general of America said to kill the Vietnamese ,It would be foolishness,

Those verse are taken out of contest and quite natural any army general to boost up the moral, They will tell to support there solders, Similarly Almighty god says in the Quran ,when the enemies come to kill you ,Don't get scared, You kill them, So what's the harm in it?

And see the next verse -6 (Which arun shoury skipped) says-"If the unbeliever, if they seek silence if they seek peace, Escort them to a place of security, So that they may hear the word of Allah"

See the beauty of the Quran, The Quran did not tell them to "go AWAY TO SOMEWHERE if they want peace" .Quran says to "ESCORT them to a PLACE OF SECURITY."

Today the most generous Army general would tell "If the enemy want peace let them go". Which army general would say "Escort them to a place of security, But this is what the Quran says!!

"whosoever killed a human "¦"¦"¦"¦., it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whosoever saved the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind" [Quran 5:32]

For Islam.By Muslims.: Does the Quran say that all Kafirs should be killed?