Malaysia airlines flight carrying 239 people missing

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Officials Identify Plane Passenger Who Used Stolen Passport - Yahoo

Two suspects on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 who used stolen passports had no record of entering Malaysia legally, officials say.

Malaysia's Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Khalid Abu Bakar, said Monday that the identity of one of the two suspects has been confirmed.

"He is not a Malaysian, but I cannot divulge which country he is from yet," he said.

Two passengers managed to board the ill-fated aircraft using passports reported stolen in Thailand in recent years, booking their tickets at the same time. The passports belonged to Italian and Austrian residents.

Rescue crews are continuing to search for the jetliner, which departed from Kuala Lumpur en route to Beijing with 239 people on board. The plane lost contact with ground controllers Saturday between Malaysia and Vietnam.

Dozens of aircraft and ships have contributed to the search, including crews from Vietnam, China, Singapore, Indonesia, the United States, Thailand, Australia and the Philippines, Malaysia Civil Aviation Chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman said at a Monday press conference.

Malaysia has led coordination efforts in the search for the missing plane. The country's Transport Minister, Hishammuddin Hussein, said Malaysia has nothing to hide – and denied allegations that China is unhappy with the investigation so far. Hishammuddin said China is sending a delegation to Malaysia to assist in identifying the passengers who held fake passports. Representatives are also helping with intelligence and relatives of the missing passengers.

During a Monday press briefing, a reporter asked Hussein about reports that a media personality received an open letter from the Leader of Chinese Martyr Brigade claiming responsibility for the incident. When asked about the letter, a Malaysian official said, "Yes, there is sound ground to say it is true, but again, we have said from the beginning that we are not taking anything for granted."

Authorities have covered over 50 nautical miles from the location where the aircraft was last spotted, including both Malaysian and Vietnamese waters.

The search has been expanded to the Straits of Malacca on the other side of the Malaysian peninsula in order to discount the possibility that the aircraft turned back to Malaysia airspace. The U.S. Navy's 7th Fleet is using a P-3C Orion marine surveillance aircraft to search in the northern section of the Strait of Malacca today, according to the group's Facebook page.

Any small clue surfacing in the ocean has revealed desperation for hope. Authorities have been unsuccessful in finding debris connected to the plane. An orange object spotted this morning -- originally thought to be a life raft -- had nothing to do with the plane wreckage, Vietnam's National Committee for Search and Rescue told ABC News. The item turned out to be an orange circular side cover of an industrial cable reel. Reports of a different suspicious floating object emerged Sunday, but that object was later ruled out as being connected to the missing jet by Vietnam and Malaysian authorities.

Additionally, oil slick samples found about 100 nautical miles from Malaysia's east coast of Kelantan, just south of the point of last contact, turned out to have no connection to the missing plane after analysis by Malaysian authorities.

At this point, officials remained perplexed by the plane's disappearance. All causes for the disappearance are being investigated, including hijacking, Abdul Rahman said.

"We are looking at every angle. We are looking at every aspect of what could have happened," he said.
 

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Obscure Group From Northwestern China, Chinese Martyrs' Brigade, Claims Responsibility For Missing Malaysia Airline Flight MH370


Chinese Martyrs' Brigade group claims responsibility for flight MH370
A group that calls itself the Chinese Martyrs' Brigade has claimed responsibility for crashing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which has remained missing after losing contact with ground control at 1:20am on Saturday.

The previously unheard-of group sent a PDF statement to various journalists in China on March 9, saying, "You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as pay back."

The majority of Chinese media outlets have expressed skepticism over the statement or dismissed it outright, suggesting it is likely a hoax made up by opportunists looking to inflame ethnic tensions following a series of attacks by separatists in northwest China's Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region and a mass stabbing in the Yunnan capital of Kunming this month that left at least 33 people dead.

Analysts say the credibility of the statement is dubious as the group claiming responsibility for flight MH370 did not divulge any details as to how it crashed the plane. The PDF statement was also sent via the encrypted Hushmail anonymous remailer service which cannot be replied to or easily traced. Chinese authorities have not responded to the statement or its claims.
 

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Chinese Martyrs' Brigade ??? :confused:

Chinese version of Indian Mujahidin? :hmm:
 

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If this happened over the Straits, IN is in the best position to find debris, no other Navy has a better view of the Straits now, strange don't hear anything about IN taking part in find it, a couple of MKI sweeps and more importantly the P-8I from INS BAAZ over suspected areas with SAR can easily help in find some debris. Terror attack or not, its just too much plane not to have any debris floating around. P-8I is the most cutting edge piece of hardware out in the region for such a search mission.
 

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'Unprecedented Mystery' — US and 9 Other Nations Scour Seas for Missing Jet
The disappearance of a Malaysian airliner about an hour into a flight to Beijing is an "unprecedented mystery", the civil aviation chief said on Monday, as a massive air and sea search now in its third day failed to find any trace of the plane or 239 people on board.
Dozens of ships and aircraft from 10 countries scoured the seas around Malaysia and south of Vietnam as questions mounted over possible security lapses and whether a bomb or hijacking attempt could have brought down the Boeing 777-200ER which took off from the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur.

The area of the search would be widened from Tuesday, Azharuddin Abdul Rahman, the head of Malaysia's Civil Aviation Authority, told reporters.

A senior police official told Reuters that people armed with explosives and carrying false identity papers had tried to fly out of Kuala Lumpur in the past, and that current investigations were focused on two passengers who were on the missing plane with stolen passports.

"We have stopped men with false or stolen passports and carrying explosives, who have tried to get past KLIA (airport) security and get on to a plane," he said. "There have been two or three incidents, but I will not divulge the details."

Interpol confirmed on Sunday at least two passengers used stolen passports and said it was checking whether others aboard had used false identity documents.

Azharuddin said a hijacking attempt could not be ruled out as investigators explore all theories for the loss of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370.

"Unfortunately we have not found anything that appears to be objects from the aircraft, let alone the aircraft," he told a news conference. "As far as we are concerned, we have to find the aircraft. We have to find a piece of the aircraft if possible."

Azharuddin also said the two men with stolen passports did not look like Asians, but he did not elaborate. Airport CCTV footage showed they completed all security procedures, he said.

"We are looking at the possibility of a stolen passport syndicate," he said.

About two-thirds of the 227 passengers and 12 crew now presumed to have died aboard the plane were Chinese. The airline said other nationalities included 38 Malaysians, seven Indonesians, six Australians, five Indians, four French and three Americans.

China urged Malaysia to speed up the search for the plane.

"This incident happened more than two days ago, and we hope that the Malaysians can fully understand the urgency of China, especially of the family members, and can step up the speed of the investigation and increase efforts on search and rescue," Foreign Ministry spokesman Qin Gang told reporters in Beijing.

A senior source involved in preliminary investigations in Malaysia said the failure to find any debris indicated the plane may have broken up mid-flight, which could disperse wreckage over a very wide area.

"The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet," said the source.

Asked about the possibility of an explosion, the source said there was no evidence of foul play and that the aircraft could have broken up due to mechanical causes.

Still, the source said the closest parallels were the bomb explosions on board an Air India jetliner in 1985 when it was over the Atlantic Ocean and a Pan Am aircraft over the Scottish town of Lockerbie in 1988. Both planes were cruising at around 31,000 feet at the time.

The United States extensively reviewed imagery taken by American spy satellites for evidence of a mid-air explosion, but saw none, a U.S. government source said. The source described U.S. satellite coverage of the region as thorough.

Hopes for a breakthrough rose briefly when Vietnam scrambled helicopters to investigate a floating yellow object it was thought could have been a life raft. But the country's Civil Aviation Authority said on its website that the object turned out to be a "moss-covered cap of a cable reel".

Flight MH370 disappeared from radar screens in the early hours of Saturday, about an hour into its flight from Kuala Lumpur, after climbing to a cruising altitude of 35,000 ft (10,670 metres).

Underlining the lack of hard information about the plane's fate, a U.S. Navy P-3 aircraft capable of covering 1,500 sq miles every hour was sweeping the northern part of the Strait of Malacca, on the other side of the Malaysian peninsula from where the last contact with MH370 was made.

No distress signal was sent from the lost plane, which experts said suggested a sudden catastrophic failure or explosion, but Malaysia's air force chief said radar tracking showed it may have turned back from its scheduled route before it disappeared.

The Boeing 777 has one of the best safety records of any commercial aircraft in service. Its only previous fatal crash came on July 6 last year when Asiana Airlines Flight 214 struck a seawall on landing in San Francisco, killing three people.

The passenger manifest issued by the airline included the names of two Europeans - Austrian Christian Kozel and Italian Luigi Maraldi - who were not on the plane. Their passports had been stolen in Thailand during the past two years.

An Interpol spokeswoman said a check of all documents used to board the plane had revealed more "suspect passports", which were being investigated.

"Whilst it is too soon to speculate about any connection between these stolen passports and the missing plane, it is clearly of great concern that any passenger was able to board an international flight using a stolen passport listed in Interpol's databases," Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said.

A European diplomat in Kuala Lumpur cautioned that the Malaysian capital was an Asian hub for illegal migrants, many of whom used false documents and complex routes including via Beijing or West Africa to reach a final destination in Europe.

"You shouldn't automatically think that the fact there were two people on the plane with false passports had anything to do with the disappearance of the plane," the diplomat said.

"The more you know about the role of Kuala Lumpur in this chain, the more doubtful you are of the chances of a linkage."

A Thai travel agent who arranged the tickets for the two passengers using the stolen passports said she had booked them on the flight via Beijing because they were the cheapest tickets, the Financial Times reported.

The travel agent in the resort of Pattaya said an Iranian business contact she knew only as "Mr Ali" had asked her to book tickets for the two men on March 1.

She had initially booked them on other airlines but those reservations expired and on March 6, Mr Ali had asked her to book them again. She told the newspaper she did not think Mr Ali, who paid her in cash and booked tickets with her regularly, was linked to terrorism.
 

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If this happened over the Straits, IN is in the best position to find debris, no other Navy has a better view of the Straits now, strange don't hear anything about IN taking part in find it, a couple of MKI sweeps and more importantly the P-8I from INS BAAZ over suspected areas with SAR can easily help in find some debris. Terror attack or not, its just too much plane not to have any debris floating around. P-8I is the most cutting edge piece of hardware out in the region for such a search mission.
 

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If this happened over the Straits, IN is in the best position to find debris, no other Navy has a better view of the Straits now, strange don't hear anything about IN taking part in find it, a couple of MKI sweeps and more importantly the P-8I from INS BAAZ over suspected areas with SAR can easily help in find some debris. Terror attack or not, its just too much plane not to have any debris floating around. P-8I is the most cutting edge piece of hardware out in the region for such a search mission.
Good Point .
I guess it would be the fact that PRC China is involved ? but then again as the area is within Vietnamese
Airspace and the oil slicks and sighting of the cabin door is outside of China SCS claim ( which itself is subject to further negotiation and international jurisdiction ), Indian Navy could be involved
( ref :- http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...an-airlines-flight-interpol-article-1.1715717 )

Problem is I.N. has it's own problems what with recent resignation of Navy Chief and cannibalization of batteries for subs and now it seems even cannibalization of sonars from one submarine to another ! Huh what a mess - so instead of helping Vietnam we are reduced to having to put our own house in order

Ideally we should be doing as you suggested:- to be getting involved like a major power, pitifully we are not in a position to do so.
 
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Why they searching near andamans and malacca straight ... The red box in post #86 is some odd 500 + miles deviation from original path and over 30 minutes flying time ... Why would a plane make such a u-turn ... Was it planning to go somewhere else ... Are they saying it glided to that area. This is really amazing to see a modern aircraft in such a region disappear. Along with fake passports (I believe is down to airline and immigration misscordination and also Interpol linkage to systems) and inability to track a plane (while one can tracks cars and people) there ought to be a huge revolution in airport and aircraft management,

One question did the fake passports have - require visa. That means they either applied if not there was fake visa also.

Another angle is that there is lots of border movement from kuming into south East Asia and near Thailand.

Finally there are a couple of Indians involved and I would imagine india provides naval support. I would imagine that be the case if there was only 1 indian involved. I would imagine that be the case even if no Indians involved. They are searching near the andamans
 
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Guys, Stop talking about technology we have... These many days we were proud for the technology what 21st century has got

But what now? It's passed more than 80 hours still unable to find a single clue about the missing Aircraft

Last day it was said that they are going to add another technology (MV Swift ) to Search and rescue operations which belong to Singapore navy

Lets pray for the on board passengers and let's see how this MV Swift fasten the Search operations

MV Swift Rescue Submarine Support and Rescue Vessel (SSRV) - Naval Technology
 

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There are only two possibilities

First - The plane was ditched ( forced landing in water following a scuffle on board ) in the sea along the intended route.

Or

Second - Has been made to land at some remote airfield in Vietnam.

The passengers as hostage, are being forced to trek away from the airfield ,into the jungles by the hijackers.

Since the pilot is very seasoned, ditching the plane is ruled out as it endangers passenger safety.

Second possibility gains gravitas, we will hear from the hijackers soon?
 

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One of the victim is a family friend.

He is now a Canadian and has a Chinese wife!

They were returning to the wife's family after a holiday in Malaysia.

Thank God that their two sons were with the Chinese grandparents!
Sad!!

Hope it is a hijack attempt and passengers though held hostage are alive!
 

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A group that calls itself the Chinese Martyrs' Brigade has claimed responsibility for crashing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, which has remained missing after losing contact with ground control at 1:20am on Saturday en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

The previously unheard-of group sent a PDF statement to various journalists in China on March 9, saying, "You kill one of our clan, we will kill 100 of you as payback."

The group asserts two motives for the alleged terrorist attack. The first is to retaliate against the Malaysian government for "cruel persecution," though no further details were provided. The second is to respond to the Chinese government for its persecution of the Uyghur ethnic minority, which has been blamed by Beijing for a slate of "terrorist" attacks in the last few years. The most recent incidents include several organized assaults on police stations in northwest China's Xinjiang Uyghur autonomous region, a jeep crash in Beijing's crowded Tiananmen Square, and a mass stabbing in the Yunnan capital of Kunming this month that left at least 33 people dead.

Uyghur activists, on the other hand, point to government suppression and control over their culture, language and religion for the violent outbursts.

The Chinese Martyrs' Brigade denies being a terrorist organization and refers to those who carried out the attack as voluntary "freedom fighters." However, the group also expressed regret over having killed all 239 people on the Boeing 777-200 commercial jet as its primary target was the 153 Chinese passengers on board.

"We wished 100% of the flight was all Chinese people," the statement said, adding that the families of victims should seek compensation from the Chinese and Malaysian governments

The group further warned that similar attacks will be carried out one after the other if the Chinese government does not reflect on its own national policy and human rights issues and stop its suppression of ethnic miniorities.


The majority of Chinese media outlets have expressed skepticism over the statement or dismissed it outright, suggesting it is likely a hoax made up by opportunists looking to inflame ethnic tensions.

Analysts say the credibility of the statement is dubious as the group did not divulge any details as to how it crashed the plane. The PDF statement was also sent via the encrypted Hushmail anonymous remailer service which cannot be replied to or easily traced.

Neither the Chinese nor Malaysian government have responded to the statement or its claims.

Malaysia Airlines said it was not ruling out any possibilities, including terrorism, after it was discovered that two of the passengers aboard the flight were carrying stolen passports.

Malaysia's home minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi has confirmed following review of closed-circuit television footage that the two passengers are of Asian appearance, which raises questions over the adequacy of customs security given that the passports were stolen from an Italian and an Austrian national. A spokesperson for Malaysia Air, however, said that all the photographs had matched the passports of the passengers.

Records show that the two passengers had booked their flights together with China Southern, which was codesharing MH370 with Malyasia Air. It was the first time the passports had been used since they were stolen in Thailand in 2012 and 2013, respectively.

Two other suspect identities are also being checked as Malaysian authorities continue to work with international agencies including the FBI. One of them is a Chinese passenger surnamed Zhao whose passport number is identical to that of a 37-year-old Fuzhou man surnamed Yu. Yu told authorities that the passport has never been used and remains in his safe at home after he applied for it in 2007. Fuzhou police said they suspect the passport number on the manifest may have been printed in error.

Meanwhile, a Vietnamese plane from one of the search teams has reportedly sighted debris from the missing jet floating in the waters of the Gulf of Thailand. The announcement was made on the website of the Vietnamese Information Ministry and said the objects appeared to be a fragment of an aircraft's tail and an interior door. The debris was spotted in the region near where planes earlier spotted two large oil slicks between six and nine miles off the southern tip of Vietnam, which are believed to be consistent with what would be left by fuel from a crashed jet.

Greg Barton, a professor from Australia's Monash University, told the Sydney Morning Herald that whenever a modern aircraft vanishes from the sky a bomb is almost always the first suspect.

"Things will become clearer once wreckage or debris is found," Barton said, but added that if debris or black box data indicates a mid-air explosion then Beijing will likely link the incident to Uyghur separatists.

Terror group Chinese Martyrs Brigade claims missing flight was ‘payback’, officials label it hoax | News.com.au


i have strong feeling the link will be established to pakistan
 

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@asianobserve .I think some Malaysian conspiracies too involved this Mystery ..

Malaysian Opposite leader Anwar gets 5 years trail

was they tried to make people calm and Claim the above Flight Issue
 
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