Major reforms cleared for Army

[ezsasa]

Net effect of this is it will lead to redeployment of 57,000 officers, JCOs & ORs for various other functions required in Army: Arun Jaitley


Restructuring in IA to improve combat effectiveness...

 

[Vinod DX9]

Post independence biggest military reform?

 

[TPFscopes]

Union finance minister Arun Jaitley, who got the additional charge of the defence ministry a week ago, has given the green light to widespread military reforms.

The reforms are based on a report by the Lt General (retired) DB Shekatkar committee, which made recommendations on enhancing the combat potential of India’s three armed forces, rationalising the defence budget, and improving the teeth-to-tail ratio.

The committee set up by then defence minister Manohar Parrikar in 2015 submitted its report on December 21 last year.

Sources at the defence ministry headquarters in South Block said Jaitley reviewed on March 18 a presentation on a new strategic partner policy, plans to create a chief of defence staff (CDS) post, and restructuring of higher defence structures along with the Shekatkar committee report.

Two days later, he approved about 90 key recommendations of the Shekatkar committee.

“The Shekatkar committee had apparently exceeded its brief with some 200 recommendations. The defence ministry whittled it down to 120, of which some 90 were approved by Jaitley. The ministry expects all the proposals to be implemented in the next two years,” a senior official said.

Defence secretary G Mohan Kumar has written to the three services headquarters to implement the proposals.

The ball park figure of Rs 25,000 crore is expected to be saved if the committee’s proposals for rebalancing military expenditure are implemented.

The panel wants the military to move out of non-core areas such as the National Cadet Corps (NCC), remove duplicity among the three services, and make institutions such as the Defence Research and Development Organization (DRDO) and ordnance factory boards more accountable through project audits and by shelving outdated concepts.

“For instance, an entire Signals unit was tasked to listen to radio broadcasts from the 1962 war. This unit will be disbanded with the troopers redeployed into other tasks. The recommendations are not aimed at cutting jobs but making the military lean and thin,” the official said.

The Narendra Modi government is expected to clear soon the creation of a CDS post and the strategic partner policy, which will boost the “Make in India” campaign in the defence sector.

A major recommendation is that the defence budget should be 2.5% to 3% of the GDP. The committee called for redefining the revenue and capital heads in the budget.

In broad terms, revenue means money required to maintain the military, while capital is spent on acquisition and modernisation.

The army, with 1.3 million personnel, could get the major chunk of the budget — above navy that has around 55,000 men and women, and the air force, which employs around 150,000.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...ms-proposal/story-kiCT2DE958MhulJPRM8pGP.html

 

[TPFscopes]

A biggest military reform post independence

 

[Mikesingh]

A major recommendation is that the defence budget should be 2.5% to 3% of the GDP. The committee called for redefining the revenue and capital heads in the budget.

That's good news! There has been a successive decline in the defence budget’s share in both central government expenditure and the GDP. With a share of 1.56 per cent of the estimated GDP of 2017-18, the defence budget is the lowest since 1956-57!!

2.5% to 3% of the GDP would mean approx Rs 5 lakh crore compared to the present 2.5 lakh crores!

 

[Bahamut]

What are the structural reform?
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[Indian Sniper.001]

A major recommendation is that the defence budget should be 2.5% to 3% of the GDP. The committee called for redefining the revenue and capital heads in the budget.

That's good news! There has been a successive decline in the defence budget’s share in both central government expenditure and the GDP. With a share of 1.56 per cent of the estimated GDP of 2017-18, the defence budget is the lowest since 1956-57!!

2.5% to 3% of the GDP would mean approx Rs 5 lakh crore compared to the present 2.5 lakh crores!

Agreed. A country wants hard power to protect its interests.
But a doubt - isn't the budget funds to the Indian Armed Forces only for day-to-day operations needs since they have got a different fund altogether for capital requirements? Please can you elaborate on the utilization of funds other than salaries/pensions, etc.

 

[sthf]

Much needed reforms. IA inherited it's structure from British IA and thus also inherited it's flaws.

Though I would have preferred some downsizing, retraining and redeployment of personnel is good enough for now. Cuts would have had created a political storm.

Atleast it gives me hope that more cruitial reforms will be undertaken, eventually.

 

[aditya10r]

A major recommendation is that the defence budget should be 2.5% to 3% of the GDP. The committee called for redefining the revenue and capital heads in the budget.

That's good news! There has been a successive decline in the defence budget’s share in both central government expenditure and the GDP. With a share of 1.56 per cent of the estimated GDP of 2017-18, the defence budget is the lowest since 1956-57!!

2.5% to 3% of the GDP would mean approx Rs 5 lakh crore compared to the present 2.5 lakh crores!

Means more money for acquisitions and research and development.

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[Mikesingh]

Agreed. A country wants hard power to protect its interests.
But a doubt - isn't the budget funds to the Indian Armed Forces only for day-to-day operations needs since they have got a different fund altogether for capital requirements? Please can you elaborate on the utilization of funds other than salaries/pensions, etc.

Nanjesh, an answer would be pretty lengthy and time consuming, so I'm taking the liberty of a shortcut...meaning referring you to the link below....

http://www.indiandefencereview.com/...-18-what-the-macro-economic-factors-foretell/

Beer time. Heading to my bar downstairs!! Cheers!

 

[F-14B]

“For instance, an entire Signals unit was tasked to listen to radio broadcasts from the 1962war

What in the actual fuck ???? Is this

 

[TPFscopes]

All in all, I want to appreciate Mr. Arun Jaitely , for managing both defense and finance ministry more swiftly.

And according to me, It is very essential to have both ministries in one hands for faster procurement process. It cuts the file tranfering time from one minister to another..

 

[IndianHawk]

According to imf forcast India GDP in 2020 Should be 3.2trillon $$
Defence budget at 3%of GDP would be==96 billion $$.

But this doesn't include modi effect:biggrin2:
I can bet our GDP will touch 4trillion by 2020 and defence budget will be 120 billion $$.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Its seems its all doing of Gen VK Singh and many other individuals within Army, during his tenure he made alot of improvements which were undo by his successor, Now under this government things are getting straight again ..

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1. Teeth to tail ratio was modified by General VK Singh and was undo by his successor.

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2. The bullet proof vehicle was actually TATA LAMV originally designated for COIN operation but when General Bikram Singh took over he undo most what General V.K Singh done in his time.

One of the changes was changing role of TATA LAMV from Coin to Recon, Basically a BRDM replacement, But BRDM were never retired nor LAMV got any orders.

Mean while in 2016 Army order Panthera-T6 vehicle for CT operations with a huge PR bang which was not very successful under present government, The same TATA LAMV made a come back in new avatar of TATA LSV ..

The bullet proof vehicle was actually TATA LAMV originally designated for COIN operation but when General Bikram Singh took over he undo most what General V.K Singh done in his time. One of the changes was changing role of TATA LAMV from Coin to Recon, Basically a BRDM replacement, But BRDM were never retired nor LAMV got any orders.

The same TATA LAMV made a come back in new avatar of TATA LSV with modification for LSV role in 2017.

Mean while in 2016 Army order Panthera-T6 vehicle for CT operations with a huge PR bang which was not very successful under present government, The perfect excuse was to protect from stone, The vehicle is not inducted in mass for gud reason, Army instead order more MPVs, But TATA LAMV will be missed badly.

 

[Indibomber]

According to imf forcast India GDP in 2020 Should be 3.2trillon $$
Defence budget at 3%of GDP would be==96 billion $$.

But this doesn't include modi effect:biggrin2:
I can bet our GDP will touch 4trillion by 2020 and defence budget will be 120 billion $$.

Love your optimism but seriously LOL that Modi/Jaitaly will let that budget reach $100 billion.

 

[Indian Sniper.001]

Love your optimism but seriously LOL that Modi/Jaitaly will let that budget reach $100 billion.

Perhaps it wouldn't have reached, but the Dolam issue turned that on its head. The govt. will relook into how less it is giving the Defence Institutions. We have been focusing more on Pak and only now (formally) have we accepted that in actuality we have to handle Cheena and not Pak. Thus, expect a paradigm change.

 

[Vishwarupa]

Sorry for off tracking... On the lighter note when I was debating about this move in WhatsApp group with my office colleagues. I got below replies.

[31/08 01:07] S i: Dear h....0.5 % our gdp will go to west...ultimatley to the christians....by arms purchasing...keep hate missionories...
You are born in cow dung...remain to drink cow unine...jai sreeram...
[31/08 01:31] S i: What ever the west is gaining from our money 10% will come back to support the conversions....
It is a huge money...
It shall come in unexpected modus operandi...
And some fools cry against coversions...
Pity for them...
Please understand the world is ruled by pope...
The one and only monarch of the earth...

My only wish is that India concentrates on making weapons in India and TOTs.

 

[tharun]

Its seems its all doing of Gen VK Singh and many other individuals within Army, during his tenure he made alot of improvements which were undo by his successor, Now under this government things are getting straight again ..

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1. Teeth to tail ratio was modified by General VK Singh and was undo by his successor.

-------------

2. The bullet proof vehicle was actually TATA LAMV originally designated for COIN operation but when General Bikram Singh took over he undo most what General V.K Singh done in his time.

One of the changes was changing role of TATA LAMV from Coin to Recon, Basically a BRDM replacement, But BRDM were never retired nor LAMV got any orders.

Mean while in 2016 Army order Panthera-T6 vehicle for CT operations with a huge PR bang which was not very successful under present government, The same TATA LAMV made a come back in new avatar of TATA LSV ..

Is this general bikram singh a good general or political appointed buffoon.
We should have made general vk singh as defense minister.

 

[Razor]

Will there be unified military commands?
Instead of different commands for the forces??
How does this work out?

 

[IndianHawk]

Love your optimism but seriously LOL that Modi/Jaitaly will let that budget reach $100 billion.

Yes they would. Right now it seems that government is reducing defense budget but the reality is that armed forces and mod are not capable of spending what is allocated to them!!

Every year they return money to exchequer. So first order of business is to streamline procurement process , cutting the red tape. What is the point of giving somebody more money just to keep it lying in coffers and only to be returned in the end.