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Yes true. Lol. Even UK is p!$$ed because of the non-availability of source codes.do not expect TOT of any kind even NATO allies do not get it.
Yes true. Lol. Even UK is p!$$ed because of the non-availability of source codes.do not expect TOT of any kind even NATO allies do not get it.
If the report is done by november, then dont you think its bit too late, considering india is looking to announce the winner by july 2012 ? Does india have apetite to start the procedure alll again and study the f-35 offer ?the U.S. Senate Armed Services Committee last week asked the Defense Department to study by November the "desirability and feasibility" of a future JSF sale to India,
This is very easy, already IAF tested Plasma Stealth on MiG-21, its a very ready program, and can enter service faster and before then F-35........;-)I think GoI should upgrade Mig-21 bisons to F-35 standards.
Yes its too late.If the report is done by november, then dont you think its bit too late, considering india is looking to announce the winner by july 2012 ? Does india have apetite to start the procedure alll again and study the f-35 offer ?
if you buys F-35, americans will put lot of conditions like you should use f-35 fighter for defense only. i.e we can't use f-35 to bomb terrorist camp in pakistan. Americans geeks will show up every other day demanding through inspection of each and every F-35 that you have. they will check inventory of your f-35 missiles and weapons whenever they want. (this information can also be traded with pakistan). Americans will know where your F-35s are all the time and where you store your weapons and missiles.Its more than 11 bn, have read it on many articles.
Why wud operational combat be compromised with f-35 ?
no matter what, americans are going to lose big time on this deal.^^^UTK, this is what i actually told you sometime back when we had conversation in SB.
Either the Americans will introduce new player (F-35) in the game or will push the Super Hornet with renewed terms.
I hope you are true and we pick Rafale - the best choice.no matter what, americans are going to lose big time on this deal.
OH yes, Good point Yusuf ... F-35 is no where close to obtaining FOCIts an American ploy to see if this offer puts a spanner in the works of Indian MRCA. They really can't be serious about it. This jet is nowhere close to production. Games being played to delay indian MRCA.
For one F-35 we ll end up paying 250+ million. Take anything we have bought so far from US as an example, Everything is twice or thrice costlier than the price they sold to other countries, So how do you expect them to give this aircraft for around 100mill?If they have to win according to mrca rfp, they'll have to provide upto 60% tot, which i dont think will be a problem considering that the f-35's parts come from all across partner countries, sure we wont get much tot in engines or radars but i doubt we'll get that even with Ef or Rafale coz US parts are very much in Rafale and EF, including Radar components and targeting systems on rafale as well as radar and mission computers on EF just to mention a few. US is no need to clearing full-tot on sensi parts that are Ef and Rafale, neither can guarantee full-tot. i am pretty sure whether we pick rafale or ef, US made parts will still flow into final assembly at Hal from US till the very last delivery.
Israel to buy 20 F-35 fighter jets in deal with US
The price isn't bad either, f-35 sells for $100 million to the Issys. Now if we play our cards right we too can have some level of customization plus a kick ass aircraft at a good price. F-35's cost over a life time will certainly be lower than the EF or Rafale primarily due to it being a single engine aircraft. Plus its genrations ahead in avionics. Put in the new 50k engine either from PW or GE and we've got ourselves an aircraft we can buy atleast in two configs F-35A&B.
Furthermore, we can readily pick up missile launches and location of launchers like the new Hatf-9 short range nuke missiles from long way off. If we place an order now, i am sure they can make space for delivery starting 2015, an order of 126 would be big enough for the US to speed up deliveries considering we would easily order another 74 or even more shortly. I hope the f-35IN is on offer it will certainly be the ideal mrca. it will so compliment the PAKFA and the AMCA. we'd be the only force to operate 3 stealth fighters.
There would be absoluetly no TOT on the plane or any missiles,radar etc... we would also have to figure out how to utilize the network capability??And how about the assembly line in India ? Would they be offering that too as well?
India always used Israeli electronics, but will be able to Put Brahmos or any other missile systems....maybe India buy's Israeli mode with Israeli systems
to make the plane different from generic plane with better capability