Legitimacy of the Durand Line

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  1. The Messiah

    The Messiah Bow Before Me! Elite Member

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    Our foreign policy is bad because we are on good terms with russia, usa, iran, israel etc when all of them are against each other.

    paki foreign policy is good because everyone hates them.
     
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    Lol imagine that...we fought off the soviets and the british (x3) and Pakistan finds the guts to invade us.

    US is in Afghanistan for the long haul, so have fun with the whole invading thing.
     
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    Well, i was assuming you had taken care of Pakistan at that point.

    Zarang-Dilaram is unfeasible (for the next decade at least), because it is essentially in the middle of nowhere. It is like hoping a highway built in Mizoram can help Mumbai, for example. So long as the highway to Herat or Kandahar is not improved, the benefits will be marginal at best.

    You are overestimating the goodwill of the Iranians. But that does sound nice.
     
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    We could offer truckloads of Mirpuris in exchange for that northern tip of Afghanistan. But I doubt any country would like to take in any more Mirpuris than they already have. So we would have to offer monies for sure. A little tip of Afghanistan and a little corridor in Myanmar will serve India very well while not being of much value themselves to those countries.
     
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    AAJA PUTAR "MAKE MY DAY". What kind of thinking went into your post? Do you have some Generals in PA who show the same raw-raw bravado when it comes to dealing with your border dispute with Afghanistan, if so than that much better for Afghanistan as they already have 2 to 3 million of their Pashtoons living in your country. How much of the headache they will become for your country once you launch any military operation against Afghanistan only time will tell. On top of that USA and NATO coalition is there to stay for very long time as we want to make sure that two wings of Armed Forces have been trained to take on any challenge which is reflected in your wet dreams.

    I do not think you are qualified to comment on the future of USA economy with your one liners. We dominate the world in innovative R & D in almost every sector of the economy such as Aerospace, Machinery, Automobile, Chemical, Medical and Financial to name a few.

    Since the history of division is already on this thread and so is the disagreement between the two nation and once Afghanistan's Armed forces are back on their feet, any provocation by the leadership of your country will be matched by Afghanistan with an equal force. This can also motivate other regions in your country to ask for independence from the thugs of PA and ISI. Just be careful what you wish for.
     
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    farhan_9909 Tihar Jail Banned

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    Durand Line is international border, says US diplomat

    Durand Line is international border, says US diplomat

    By Ismail Khan | 11/2/2012 12:00:00 AM


    PESHAWAR, Nov 1: A senior American diplomat in Pakistan said on Thursday the United States recognised the Durand Line as an international border and if Afghanistan had any other interpreration, `that`s certainly their business`.

    `The existing border is recognised as an international border. Now if the government in Kabul has other interpretation, that`s certainly their business,` Richard E.Hoagland, US Deputy Chief of Mission in Pakistan, said at a media roundtable here.Mr Hoagland was responding to a question on Kabul`s rather angry reaction to US Special Envoy for Afghanistan and Pakistan, Marc Grossman`s, comments on the border which Afghanistan has long considered a contentious and unresolved issue.

    Durand Line draws its name from Mortimer Durand, the Foreign Secretary of British India, who demarcated the 2640-kilometre-long and porous borders between Pakistan and Afghanistan following a treaty with Afghanistan`s Amir Abdur Rehman Khan in 1893.

    The joint survey team took two years to complete and covered some 800 miles of the borders.
    Pakistan as a dominion to the British India inherited the treaty which Afghans believed was imposed on them through coercion.The Afghans say the treaty a single page containing seven clauses, was written in English which late AmirAbdur Rehman Khan could neither read nor understand.Pakistan says the border between the two countries is a settled issue and not opens to discussions.

    `Look, this is not the Line of Control. This has been recognised as an international border for a long time. I understand that certainly Kabul may have a different point of view and they are certainly well within their right to explain their point of view, Mr Hoagland maintained.

    Pak-US relations The US diplomat quoted Ambassador Grossman as describing his recent visit to Pakistan as `the best visit he has had` and said that his meetings with Foreign Minister Hina Rabbani Khar and military chief Gen Ashfaq Parvez Kayani and their staff had been `very good` `It was a discussion. It wasn`t just one side making their statements and the other side making their statements and then saying `okay, thank you, and goodbye`.

    He said that the meeting with Gen Kayani in Rawalpindi had been equally positive and that both countries were trying to identify clearly where the interests were common, things they could work on together, things that could benefit both countries and their people.

    `It was a very positive visit.

    It was positive in the sense that it was part of redefining our relationship,` he said.He said Pakistan recognised the importance of fight-ing terrorists and the United States wanted to help Pakistan fight terrorism.`The sooner we can contain terrorists and begin to defeat terrorism, the more peaceful the region will become,` he said.

    He acknowledged that 2011 was a very difficult period for US-Pakistan relations, followed by what he described as the `strategic pause` in the first half of 2012 which did not see `too many decisions` made about the relations.But he said that behind-the scene discussions on the three parts of the relations; the civilian-diplomatic relations, military-to-military relations and relations between intelligence agencies.

    `We have gone through a difficult period,` he said, adding that both sides had begun to re-engage. `It`s going to be a more mature relationship. It might be a little bit more restrained but that`s good. Its good because what we will do is identify where are the areas that are of mutual interests to both sides.Drone strikes He declined to discuss the drone issue `on the record` but said that it was important for the two countries to discuss it.He said that both countries were looking for the best possible way to make sure that they were working together on this.But he disagreed with a reporter who asked if he agreed with the drone strikes` critics that innocent were being targeted in the drone strikes.

    `I don`t agree,` he said.

    Imran Khan The US diplomat denied that the Tehrik-i-Insaaf chairman was taken off the plane in Toronto but acknowledged that he was not allowed to board the plane. He said that no-one was ever stopped by the US immigration for his political beliefs or public statements.

    He said that a lot of stories that went out were inaccurate and played out for political purposes.
    He also denied that Khan was stopped because his visa status did not allow him to raise funds for his party in the US. He said that Khan was welcomed in the US but he refused to go into details about the reason for stopping him from boarding the plane to the US, citing American privacy laws on the issue.

    He said that stopping Imran Khan was a standard procedure and as soon as he went through the process, he was allowed to proceed on the first flight available.
    Ghulam Ahmad Bilour Asked if Washington would follow London on banning Railway Minister Ghulam Ahmad Bilour from visiting their country for announcing head money on the anti-Islam filmmaker, he said: `We are still reviewing the situation, we will be prepared to make the decision within the next several days.

    Durand Line is international border, says US diplomat | ePaper | DAWN.COM
     
  7. The Messiah

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    Re: Durand Line is international border, says US diplomat

    Who are yanks to say ?

    It does not concern them. Afghanistan will determine where border is.
     
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    Re: Durand Line is international border, says US diplomat

    Afghanistan does not recognize the Durand Line as the international border, and ideally we shouldn't either.
     

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