LATEST UPDATE ON INDIAN ARMY 'PLACE WILL BE OURS AND TIME WILL BE OURS'

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children..is a tactic employed as always.

ALAN KURDI was employed effectively to enable migration.
Syrian Kid in an alleged Russian Missile firing in Syria..
Congo uses kids with AK-47 against peacekeepers..

So we can expect pakis to play that trick..and NDTV giving detailed coverage.
I meant that on the cue of the bechara sharif y'day, the pork-pasands have returned to 'sob storying' Cashmere.
 

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Man o man, people Cold Start is an old doctrine and has long been abandoned, you won't see it being implemented since, we have been working with a far deadlier doctrine since VK Singh sahib became Chief.

For those who keep believing this is the first time India avenged something that happend in such a short time, keep dreaming people. IA has always responded in kind often the same day within a few hrs. In the fog of ceasefire violations from Pak, regular infantry, Ghataks and SF teams often go across drop a few heads and come back.

There are no reasons to dismiss flying into POK, there are so many proper valleys which allow for terrain hugging insertions, helo pilots in those areas are among the best in the world. Keep in mind we have a significant EW capability in those areas.

Myanmar raid was supposed to be quietly done, until someone leaked the info. I'll try to find out with my family member at MI for some details about this raid. I wouldn't be surprised if the numbers are indeed as good as 200+ hits. When you unleash 2 platoon size forces of Ghataks, SF or even regular infantry in a well planned raid (IA knows the ins and outs of all POK terror camps to less than 1m resolution), raking such numbers is as easy as spreading butter on bread. Most of these piglets probably got silenced in their sleep. Probably 2-3 SSG BAT teams also got wasted. There are usually 1-2 BAT teams at major POK terror camps, minor camps are closer to LOC, act as staging points and are made shift, these are harder to detect, they spring up overnight and are often dismantled in a few hrs. These are usually in heavily forested area, under natural foliage, plenty of caves, natural rock formations etc. Hence IA, IAF is looking to have foliage penetrating radars for its drones.

If indeed 3 major camps were hit, we can easily be looking at 200+ kills. Major camps usually have 2 platoons around (60) piglets and 1-2 BAT teams (10-20) and often couple of ISI handlers. Together the BATs who are responsible to keep the morale of the piglets up, give tips and tricks of the trade, BATS also perform advanced recce, they try their best to paint a clear picture of how ours camps, movements look like, what to expect etc. Often BATs will engage in cover fire, diversionary tactics to try and get the real 'daura e khas' Fedayeen squad near the intended target, along the way they will easily sacrifice a few piglets sending them the obvious route. BATS also coordinate the cover fire from the Rangers for usually the decoy groups. Decoy groups are just mindless piglets who are mostly expendable en route, but if in the rare chance they do get in, they throw an odd grenade at a crpf checkpoint or engage a moving convoy etc, then they are chased and usually end up encountered in a civilian area. BATS don't cross the LOC in normal cases unless a target of opportunity shows up such as the one where they beheaded a couple of ours soldiers.

I wouldn't be surprised if the raid did happen, no honorable CO, area commander would ever allow for 'paltan ki izzat' to be diminished. Ghataks from Bihar and Dogra probably were a big part of the force while a small squad of SF tagged along for guidance.
No no no................ Nothing is going to give us more comfort then PM giving a detailed status report from Red Fort and Army coming out with a 1000 page booklet of how we conducted raids and how many we killed the moment Uri attack happened. Otherwise we will be keep ranting Anda and Balls in the forum.
 

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Has India already avenged Uri by killing 20 Pakistani terrorists in PoK?
Highlights
  • A report in TheQuint.com claims that Army conducted operation in Uri sector.
  • Army attacked three terror camps in PoK: Report
  • Operation reportedly conducted during the night of September 20-21.

Has the Indian Army already killed 20 terrorists by flying across the Line of Control (LoC) into Pakistan in a covert operation to avenge the martyrdom of 18 of its soldiers killed in Uri last week?

A report in TheQuint.com published today claims that two units of the army's elite 2 Paras conducted the operation in the Uri sector and attacked three terror camps in Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir (PoK).

WHAT WAS THE PoK OPERATION ABOUT?

The report, which has not been confirmed by any defence authority or the government so far, further claims that the total casualties in the operation could have been nearly 200.

The operation by about 18-20 soldiers of 2 Paras who flew into PoK in choppers was reportedly conducted during the night of September 20-21, two days after the Uri army camp attack.

Citing sources in the army, The Quint said it "stood by its story" even as many on social media questioned the veracity of the report. The army, however, has officially denied carrying the operation.
"In light of the reactions to this article, The Quint decided to reconfirm the information from its sources. We stand by our story," said the disclaimer on top of the story.

Both the armed forces and the government have denied this. When IndiaToday reporters contacted highly-placed individuals in the government, they called the story a 'figment of a fertile imagination'. But they didn't want to come on record.

Also read:

Uri attack: Terrorists deleted GPS logs, used matrix codes to evade location

Isolated Pakistan gets an earful from US: Act on Uri terrorists

Avenge Uri attack, all-religion group urges PM Modi in letter with blood

To further substantiate its story, The Quint has pieced together Pakistan's declaration of a no-fly zone over the PoK on the night of September 20 - as reported by India Today TV - as well as the cancellation of various flights to northern Pakistani cities.

Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's call to his Army chief General Raheel Sharif from New York is also being cited as another evidence of the rumblings within the Pakistani establishment over the PoK operation.

Back home, Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar had on Wednesday said the Uri attack may need a "knee-jerk" reaction. "We won't go into details of what India can do, but sometimes knee-jerk reaction is required," he said.

SO, HAS INDIA AVENGED URI?

Did Parrikar mean the PoK operation as the knee-jerk reaction that the Indian government had approved after Prime Minister Narendra Modi's tweet that the Uri attackers "would not go unpunished".

Has India really avenged the killing of 18 of its soldiers, even as New Delhi corners Pakistan on the global stage by calling it a state sponsor of terror?

If it is so, why is the government not confirming the operation, despite a massive clamour within the country calling for a befitting reply to the Uri massacre?

Also, why hasn't Pakistan raised a hue and cry yet if its airspace was violated by the Indian soldiers to carry out the killing of 20 terrorists in the PoK?

As the frenzy over a possible India-Pakistan war builds up over Uri, it is perhaps too early to expect any confirmation from the government. Watch this space for more.

SOCIAL MEDIA STORM

Meanwhile, on social media, while many were elated to believe this to be true, many others ridiculed the report.

BREAKING NEWS: URI AVENGED. Commandos kill Pak Army Chief, setup identical dummy in his place. Delhi denies covErt op, but dont they always?

�?? Ajai Shukla (@ajaishukla) September 22, 2016
India isn't a knee-jerk nation when it comes to its military. The Army wasn't bullshitting when it said 'time & place of our choosing'.

�?? Shiv Aroor (@ShivAroor) September 21, 2016
Meanwhile, a Tweeter claimed she was the source of the story. Her Twitter bio reads: World's 1st woman to do Sukhoi & MiG-35 sorties before Prez of India, Limca record holder, Award winning defence journo.
I am the source https://t.co/NuZobtApVO

�?? Sumann Sharrma (@SumannSharrma) September 21, 2016
And this was the tweet that started it:


Indian Army's 2 Para Special Forces conducts covert ops across LoC, avenge Uri

�?? Sumann Sharrma (@SumannSharrma) September 21, 2016
 
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Is Paki media reporting any casualities in POK? I dont see any news from Paki media on this.
 

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Fake news. Nothing of the sort happened.

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So this Ctyapa has reach beyond Quint Queer.
 

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Army redraws operation plans along LoC

But an all-out war is clearly ruled out with no largescale troop mobilisation, akin to 'Operation Parakram' in the aftermath of the Parliament attack in December 2001.
NEW DELHI: The Army continues to steadily upgrade its "operational readiness" all along the 778-km Line of Control, with redeployment of troops and some "forward movement" of ammunition and fuel dumps, even as it "refines" a variety of contingency plans in conjunction with the IAF.
The Army has made a series of presentations to Prime Minister Narendra Modi, including one in its military operation directorate with detailed maps and sand-models on Tuesday night. "There have been other top-level meetings over the last two days, including with national security adviser Ajit Doval, to discuss the operational situation along the LoC as well as the military options available to turn the heat on Pakistan," said a source. Though "retributive covert or overt strikes" on terror-training camps and other targets in Pakistan are on the table, sources said they will only be undertaken with "cold calculation" with clear objectives in mind if diplomatic measures do not get desired results.
"All military contingency plans have risks involved, and therefore have risk-mitigation measures factored in. But the government has to decide which plan should be rolled out, with what resources and what timelines," said a source.
But an all-out war is clearly ruled out with no largescale troop mobilisation, akin to 'Operation Parakram' in the aftermath of the Parliament attack in December 2001, being initiated as of now. With India "thickening" its operational posture along the LoC, Pakistan too has shored up its border defences, including reinforcing its artillery positions.
As reported by TOI earlier, India's options for "limited but punitive strikes" range from concentrated fire-power assaults with 155mm artillery guns, Smerch rockets and Brah Mos supersonic cruise missiles to "surgicalair strikes" by fighter jets to take out known terror camps through precision-guided munitions.
"There is the option for cross-border raids, shallow ones by the infantry's Ghatak Platoons and deeper ones by Para Special Forces," said a source. The Army has already moved two additional brigades into south Kashmir and other areas to strengthen the counter-infiltration and counter-terrorism grids in the region, which has made more troops available for the LoC.
 

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Army redraws operation plans along LoC

But an all-out war is clearly ruled out with no largescale troop mobilisation, akin to 'Operation Parakram' in the aftermath of the Parliament attack in December 2001.




All I know is if this time Pakistan goes unpunished, India will never be able to stand up to her bullying. Diplomatic and economic sanctions will not deter her; particularly, since China, a powerful nation by all counts is her permanent ally. It is now or never.
 

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Army redraws operation plans along LoC

But an all-out war is clearly ruled out with no largescale troop mobilisation, akin to 'Operation Parakram' in the aftermath of the Parliament attack in December 2001.




All I know is if this time Pakistan goes unpunished, India will never be able to stand up to her bullying. Diplomatic and economic sanctions will not deter her; particularly, since China, a powerful nation by all counts is her permanent ally. It is now or never.
 

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If there is no action from goi I wil leave DFI and read those pansy girlish novels.
What's the point in reading geopolitics and defence related matters when your country s@ck at it.
Recommend some pansy novels like twilight saga and 50 shades of grey :sad:
Joooo hab to postpone your plans now. :sad:

India Strikes back and Pakis are in panic mode, all 10 days of chest thumping falls FLAT. Add to that Iran fires mortar shells on the other end. :rofl:

#BaniyaStrikesBack is the hash tag. :india: : :salute::

If nothing comes out of cabinet committee on security today, then it would be a long time before this thread has anything concrete to discuss about.

I have a feeling this thread has been opened just to put salt on the wounds.
Action happened... something which was thought to be illusive.
 
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Joooo hab to postpone your plans now. :sad:

India Strikes back and Pakis are in panic mode, all 10 days of chest thumping falls FLAT. Add to that Iran fires mortar shells on the other end. :rofl:

#BaniyaStrikesBack is the hash tag. :india: : :salute::



Action happened... something which was thought to be illusive.
#BaniyaStrikesBack
Baniya rocks ,mullah shocked.
 

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