Lankan forces photographed killing 12-yr-old son of LTTE leader in col

[Yusuf]

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Puhleez. The ones who worsened the plight of the Tamils were the Sinhalese who forced the Tamils to pick up arms, India which supported & prodded on the Tamils for its own strategic goals and LTTE which got power hungry. Tamils getting stuck up between these three competing forces like lambs for sacrifice.

Yup it's apparent who did what. LTTE killed so many Tamils. Human shields, children and women. No sympathy for them.

If India did anything for strategic gains then as a big country it's well within its rights to do so.

 

[natarajan]

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Why do Indian right-wingers who wish to uphold the rule of majority in India have such a problem if Sri Lanka wants to do the same?

Shouldn't Sri Lankan Tamils be fully integrated into the Sinhalese state? The Sinhalas are the dominant majority of Sri Lanka and Sri Lanka is their matrubhumi.

After independence from british ,it got partitioned into india and pakistan ,while pakistan is based on religion but still india remains secular ,we have given a separate nation and hence want minority to mingle with society but in srilanka case there is no partition happened.Just imagine if srilanka splitted into two countries like india and pakistan,then it is not possible for tamils to stay in sinhala country unlike india which inspite giving separate nation but accomodates minority.The percentage of minority in india proves comparing our case with srilanka isn non sense

 

[Neuro]

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One of the cornerstones of right-wing ideology is the promotion of the interests of the majority and defining the nation as a whole around a group perceived as the "native majority". You see this among right-wing groups throughout the world, whether it be among the Religious Right in the United States who define America as a Judeo-Christian country, or the Nazis who defined their Third Reich around the principle of German superiority, or the Hindu right-wing who define India as a "Dharmic" country. These definitions usually take place in the context of large minority populations, who are deemed threatening, undesirable, or otherwise simply "alien". I can actually understand and even respect the right-wing ideology in some circumstances, but not in cases of blatant hypocrisy when double standards are applied.

To use the right-wing rhetoric, Sri Lanka belongs to the Sinhala people and Tamils are foreigners. Thus, Sri Lankan Tamils should learn to live under the rule of Sinhalas, who form the native majority, or otherwise go back to their homeland in TN. The Sinhala people were under attack by Tamil terrorists in the form of LTTE, and the unfortunate bloodshed that followed was a result of the Sinhalas fighting a war of self-defence. The Sinhalas were not invading some foreign country but fighting insurgents on their own soil. Now that LTTE has been destroyed, a process of reconciliation can begin between the Sinhalas and Tamils.

Singalese are inbred of tamils and bengalis ok..... tamils are natives to tat land they are not migrated. Reconciliation never possible till they implement 13th amendment.

 

[Neuro]

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After independence from british ,it got partitioned into india and pakistan ,while pakistan is based on religion but still india remains secular ,we have given a separate nation and hence want minority to mingle with society but in srilanka case there is no partition happened.Just imagine if srilanka splitted into two countries like india and pakistan,then it is not possible for tamils to stay in sinhala country unlike india which inspite giving separate nation but accomodates minority.The percentage of minority in india proves comparing our case with srilanka isn non sense

In addition they don't have powerful/popular leaders to unite both people. Its mainly becoz of freedom movement not at all happened so they started fighting after the end of colonial rule but India is too lucky in that case thus we still united. Hats off to our legends.......

 

[hit&run]

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I can't believe few Indians can go that low to justify HR violation done by Shinhala Sri Lankans by creating a right wing Hindu bogeyman from their own nation.

Now we have to compare and debate fictional or subtle right wing Hindu Ideology with Genocide which has already happened.

 

[Phenom]

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Its clear that atleast in this forum pro-sinhala opinion is in majority, clearly most have already taken sides and its no use arguing further.

Its our (Tamil's)duty to take care of our ethnic kin in SL, it shouldn't matter what others think or don't think. If supporting SL Tamils makes Tamils less patriotic then so be it.

 

[Yusuf]

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Its clear that atleast in this forum pro-sinhala opinion is in majority, clearly most have already taken sides and its no use arguing further.

Its our duty to take care of our ethnic kin in SL, it shouldn't matter what others think or don't think

Not supporting or endorsing LTTE is not us being pro sinhala.

We are pro india.

 

[Phenom]

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How does being anti-ltte equates to saying its okay to kill a 12 year old boy who's captured alive.

Why is the answer to every question about SL and their army the same phrase.

SLA killed civilians during the last phase of the war - Answer: LTTE is evil
SL changes names of places in the east to sinhalese - LTTE is evil
SL refuses to devolve power like it promised - LTTE is evil
There is evidence of cold blooded murder of a 12 year old - LTTE is evil.

It seems LTTE is evil is the universal answer to all of Srilanka's problem.

 

[Razor]

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Not supporting or endorsing LTTE is not us being pro sinhala.

We are pro india.

What exactly is pro India in this scenario ?
How are Lankans pro India, when they are going to bed w/ China ?
Just curious &/or ignorant.

 

[Yusuf]

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What exactly is pro India in this scenario ?
How are Lankans pro India, when they are going to bed w/ China ?
Just curious &/or ignorant.

Coz the Sinhalas control the govt and we have to do business with them. How its to be done in the current scenario is a diplomatic challenge and intelligence as well.

I offered one idea in this thread

 

[Yusuf]

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How does being anti-ltte equates to saying its okay to kill a 12 year old boy who's captured alive.

Why is the answer to every question about SL and their army the same phrase.

SLA killed civilians during the last phase of the war - Answer: LTTE is evil
SL changes names of places in the east to sinhalese - LTTE is evil
SL refuses to devolve power like it promised - LTTE is evil
There is evidence of cold blooded murder of a 12 year old - LTTE is evil.

It seems LTTE is evil is the universal answer to all of Srilanka's problem.

Those two photos are no proof. It will not stand a chance in a court.
Subramanian Swamy seems more sane in this issue.

 

[bengalraider]

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The Seeds of every conflict are sown in the one that precedes it and i fear that in killing women and children however justified or unjustified that may be the Sri Lankan Army has only paved the way for a bloodier and longer drawn out conflict with Sri Lankan Tamils in the future. I fear that as in the Balkans where successive assaults & massacres against civilians during campaigns against rebel forces by the ruling powers supporting one demographic against theirs ,be it the Bosnian Muslims with Ottomans support against the Serbs & Croats (time period 17-19th centuries)or the Croats supported by the Wehrmacht against the Serbs & Bosnian Muslims(1939-1944) or the Serbs with soviet backing against the Croats and Bosnian Muslims(1950-1990). each of these pogroms has caused the next even today after nearly three centuries of successive pogroms the Balkans is still not at rest and the fires of hatred merely simmer.
The Sri Lankan response of utilizing excessive force has been an unqualified success yes, but only and i'd like to underline that only in the near term . In the long term this only means that the hatred and fear continue in the minds of Sri Lankan Tamils to remain to be exploited by another Prabhakaran or any other equally charismatic leader( most terrorist masterminds are), and the next conflict will be bloodier and more ruthless as the Sri Lankan forces emboldened by their success is sweeping things under the carpet this time around will not cringe next time and the Tamils knowing well that they will all be massacred on losing will fight ruthlessly as well.

 

[natarajan]

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In addition they don't have powerful/popular leaders to unite both people. Its mainly becoz of freedom movement not at all happened so they started fighting after the end of colonial rule but India is too lucky in that case thus we still united. Hats off to our legends.......

even today some bomb blast in hyderabad ,they have right even to ban a film(viswaroopam) those who speak against india should be sent to srilanka

 

[natarajan]

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People are supporting the wiping out of LTTE. People (me at least) are trying to find out why the Lankans got so barbaric and brutal. Answer is that the LTTE did things that made the Lankans go inhuman.

Ultimately SL issue has to be looked at as a civil war between two brutal armies.

From the Indian context, I made a point a couple of posts back on how we can tackle the Lankans from Indian interest point of view.

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Just one question today hyderabad blast show IM gone inhumane so according to your login our GOI should also go inhumane and follow SL steps ?

 

[Yusuf]

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Just one question today hyderabad blast show IM gone inhumane so according to your login our GOI should also go inhumane and follow SL steps ?

Are you comparing a civil war in SL to a sustained campaign by our enemy Pakistan to destabilize India?

 

[natarajan]

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it is not just pakistan but without local sleeper cells support it cant be done by IM,remember LTTE was created by us and weapons provided during indira period.You cant justify inhumane against tamil citing the reason LTTE is also inhumane.Any thing against common people should be condemned ,Even i feel pity for common pakistan people getting killed by their own grown terrorists .

 

[saradiel1]

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Daewood ibrahim is most wanted terrorist but relations are living happily in mumbai and they were protected by government so according to people who support 12 years old son killing want this people including children related to daewood in india to be killed ? what about afzal guru relations and rajiv gandhi killers relations ? .Afghanistan taliban uses burqa for suicide bombing but nato never killed any women knowingly or banned burqa ,israel didt kill all civilians in the name of war on hamas terrorists.LTTE is the only terrorist organization to be wiped out completely so its time to bring transparecy in SL and india should act like atleast regional power not to succumb to pressure like chinese will take SL etc.Chinese never bows down to neighboring countries like japan,vietnam etc citing the reason it will go to usa or india .Tamil people will be totally annihilated if they continue to be under SL,only option is to get independence from sl and partition like india and pakistan,

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It can be used like kosovo

Prabhakarn's parents were looked after, provided medical care by SL army. That is even after Indian gov refused to give her visa to come to chennai.
How come tamils are 35% in Colombo and have a singificant population in sinhala south if they have the fear of annihiliation. and remember SL's future would not be decided by a jobless TN fellow and SL knows how to defend it.

So is Tamil chelvam's and Susei's family

 

[saradiel1]

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Neither LTTE nor SL army invited IPKF in SL at first place its purely India decision and both parties don't want other army(Indian) to intervene its internal matters but LTTE seeks India morale support alone. Thus SL govt. negotiated at some extent with LTTE and both them attacked directly/indirectly IPKF. LTTE are not saints. whoever acting against them they will kill without mercy including tamils leaders its open secret their only goal is get free Eelam at any cost.

where have SL army attacked IPKF?
when u do a gamble throwing all ur money, no use of crying for it when u ve lost it.

 

[saradiel1]

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The point is LTTE were the lesser of the two evils for the Tamils there. While LTTE was the frying pan, the Sinhalese were the fire.

Anyway that is moot as LTTE is done and dusted and it is intellectually dishonest to cling on to an extinct organization to justify or turn blind eye to the brutalities of the SInhalese who have not only gone back on their promises to India regarding devolution of powers but also actively colluding with the Chinese to undercut any of the existing Indian influence.



Wrong analogy. The Tamils anywhere in the world went from Tamil Nadu. Muslim in Morocco did not go from India.
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Contradictory statements. If you had nothing to do with Lanka then why the hell send IPKF when neither the Lankans nor LTTE requested it ?



In whatever words you try to couch it in, India was a part of the problem right from its inception and chickening out of the solution only shows the impotency on the part of GoI and nothing else.

how come LTTE is the lesser evil, when they killed the Tamils mostly? funny logic!
LTTE sympathisers, funders and ideology is alive in west. Actually they are the ones behind UN resolutions. my point is terrorists cant ask for justice after all the mayhem.

 

[saradiel1]

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why cant stand the truth or even put an argument?

What are the evidences to show he was executed? Is any photo available showing an SL army soldier executing him? Yes he is seen sitting on a bunker but cant that be LTTE bunker? What is the evidence to show that he is in the custody of Lankan troops?
1. what is the evidence to show he was in SLA custody?
2. why would SLA give him a snack if they intend to kill him?
3. he is in a relaxed mood, quite unlikely when u are with ur enemy.
4. was the same photos taken by the same camera? CH4 says so but again evidence?
5. why doesnt CH4 show the dates and time of the pics taken?
6. the area where final battle was done is a lagoon with little islands. As far as i knw army had shot at the islet when prabha hid in one along with others.
7. the video is a good piece of propaganda like the previous ones. However in previous videos CH4 lied. So how can we accept this?
8. the forensic pathologist is a discredited one who had given false analysis in a different court case. Another point that makes this again suspecting.
9.i am not a expert on analyzing gun shot wounds. So cant comment on that, however i presume most commenting here fits to that category. So dont take everything at face value.
10. Callum Macrae in an interview later told that CH4 doc didnt mention they have evidence for war crimes. This is a gross lie. They have an agenda.
Also note that in first two photos, the army like figure has different light variation than the rest of the pic, which suggests editing.